ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
I have dismissed the claims about O's birth place because A) there are always kooks and detractors and B) bro is president now like it or not.

But...there are some troubling signs that there may actually be something to this story.


Note the place of birth;
https://i32.tinypic.com/35a9g80.jpg

then a decidedly crackpot website called foul and within two hours the website changed;

https://i27.tinypic.com/2h6w1f7.jpg
And even UPI seems to have corrected themselves to agree with O's stated place of birth.

Screen shots;

https://i26.tinypic.com/zjgcnr.jpg

https://i25.tinypic.com/2li7tds.jpg


Many don't know a special bill was drafted to allow McCain to run, as he was born on Guam.

No such bill was crafted regarding O's situation and if this thing has teeth the election was illegitimate and must be overturned.


It seems like there is a lot of effort to cover this up.

Any thoughts?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6911|London, England
Both are in Hawaii
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
true, but you know what the allegations are, right?

For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth.
http://www.modernghana.com/news/226379/ … orrow.html


Boom!

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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6911|London, England
Ah, that's clear proof that he was born in Africa. I think it's time to initiate your crazy scheme, ATG. Time to retake Amerika. Can I help?
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5901|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

ATG wrote:

true, but you know what the allegations are, right?

For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American President on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth.
http://www.modernghana.com/news/226379/ … orrow.html


Boom!

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O SHI-

[puts on tinfoil hat]
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/


    * New Jersey attorney Mario Apuzzo has filed a case on behalf of Charles Kerchner and others alleging Congress didn't properly ascertain that Obama is qualified to hold the office of president.

    * Pennsylvania Democrat Philip Berg has three cases pending, including Berg vs. Obama in the 3rd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, a separate Berg vs. Obama case alleging he wasn't qualified even to be U.S. senator and Hollister vs. Soetoro a/k/a Obama, (now dismissed) brought on behalf of a retired military member who could be facing recall to active duty by Obama.

    * Leo Donofrio of New Jersey
      filed a lawsuit claiming Obama's dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court but denied a full hearing.

    * Cort Wrotnowski filed suit against Connecticut's secretary of state, making a similar argument to Donofrio. His case was considered in conference by the U.S. Supreme Court, but was denied a full hearing.

    * Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes headlines a list of people filing a suit in California, in a case handled by the United States Justice Foundation, that asks the secretary of state to refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office. The case is pending, and lawyers are seeking the public's support.

    * Chicago lawyer Andy Martin sought legal action requiring Hawaii Gov. Linda Lingle to release Obama's vital statistics record. The case was dismissed by Hawaii Circuit Court Judge Bert Ayabe.

    * Lt. Col. Donald Sullivan sought a temporary restraining order to stop the Electoral College vote in North Carolina until Barack Obama's eligibility could be confirmed, alleging doubt about Obama's citizenship. His case was denied.

    * In Ohio, David M. Neal sued to force the secretary of state to request documents from the Federal Elections Commission, the Democratic National Committee, the Ohio Democratic Party and Obama to show the presidential candidate was born in Hawaii. The case was denied.

    * Also in Ohio, there was the Greenberg v. Brunner case which ended when the judge threatened to assess all case costs against the plaintiff.

    * In Washington state, Steven Marquis sued the secretary of state seeking a determination on Obama's citizenship. The case was denied.

    * In Georgia, Rev. Tom Terry asked the state Supreme Court to authenticate Obama's birth certificate. His request for an injunction against Georgia's secretary of state was denied by Georgia Superior Court Judge Jerry W. Baxter.

    * California attorney Orly Taitz has brought a case, Lightfoot vs. Bowen, on behalf of Gail Lightfoot, the vice presidential candidate on the ballot with Ron Paul, four electors and two registered voters. She also has brought forward several other cases and has conducted several public campaigns to generate awareness of the issue.

    * In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

    * In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.

    * In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

    * In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.

    * In Hawaii, Keyes vs. Lingle, dismissed.

In addition, other cases cited on the RightSideofLife blog as raising questions about Obama's eligibility include:

    * In Texas, Darrel Hunter vs. Obama later was dismissed.

    * In Ohio, Gordon Stamper vs. U.S. later was dismissed.

    * In Texas, Brockhausen vs. Andrade.

    * In Washington, L. Charles Cohen vs. Obama.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
Oh and

Mekstizzle wrote:

Ah, that's clear proof that he was born in Africa. I think it's time to initiate your crazy scheme, ATG. Time to retake Amerika. Can I help?
It's called corroborating evidence.

It's not proof, but it confirms at least one thing; there are legitimate questions as to where the guy was born. And if he was not born on American soil, he cannot be president.
ghettoperson
Member
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Surely it'd simply be a case of looking at his birth certificate to find out?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
It would be, if they would release it.

Why won't they?
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6870|the dank(super) side of Oregon
he fell out of an American snatch, that's close enough.
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5901|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

ATG wrote:

It would be, if they would release it.

Why won't they?
Indeed, maybe they do have something to hide.


[enters hidden bunker]
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5875

Obama's grandmother died the night before the election.

Obama killed his own grandmother to become President.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command

Macbeth wrote:

Obama's grandmother died the night before the election.

Obama killed his own grandmother to become President.
srs trollin bro
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6939

ATG wrote:

It would be, if they would release it.

Why won't they?
On that Fight the Smears site they have it. However the website is down, presumably was after the election.
nibiru2012
Member
+10|5706
nothing will ever happen about his birth certificate , i'm actualy sick of hearing about it , I gave up ,lol
Macbeth
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ATG wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Obama's grandmother died the night before the election.

Obama killed his own grandmother to become President.
srs trollin bro
I was being sardonic.

But come on isn't it a little suspicious his grand mother died the night before? You know one of the only people alive to have witnessed the birth?

If I was into conspiracies I would say that "Obama killed his grandmother to cover up his birth"
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
Fine.
Not like you are the first to say it.

I'm sure she was about to come forward with a deathbed confession, having had months to say anything, I'm sure she would have wanted to die having told the truth   
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6939

https://publicintellectual.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/birthcertobama.jpg

That's it, what's the problem?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command

ghettoperson wrote:

http://publicintellectual.files.wordpre … tobama.jpg

That's it, what's the problem?
So it would appear.
But the problem is that is a nice new certificate, like you'd see from a hospital today. He doesn't deny having the original, he just refuses to produce it or a copy.

One from the year he was born would look a little different. Like this;

https://i26.tinypic.com/148f9f6.jpg


I still have mine.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6891|132 and Bush

ATG wrote:

It would be, if they would release it.

Why won't they?
Why should he? No other president has submitted their birth certificate for public review (it was reviewed by the press and election officials).

You are citing snopes already so I'm sure you wont have a problem with this: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/bi … ficate.asp

And there's the rub. It is possible that Obama conspired his way to the precipice of the world's biggest job, involving a vast network of people and government agencies over decades of lies. Anything's possible.

But step back and look at the overwhelming evidence to the contrary and your sense of what's reasonable has to take over.

There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact's conclusion that the candidate's name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn't authentic.

And that's true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust.
There are thousands of articles written about Obama daily. Is it really a surprise that "modernghana" get's it wrong from time to time? .. and what exactly are you speculating? .. that UPI is in on it? That the mainstream press is guilty of birth certificate fraud? Do you realize the scale that would involve over decades and decades?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6819|Global Command
Okay, wait a minute, there is a another contradiction on Obamas own website;

1. Barack Hussein OBAMA was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to
http://my.barackobama.com/page/communit … jaz/gGxqmC


vrs "  Obama described his birth at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Hawaii
Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza province in Kenya,  "

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/04/ … 225647000/



What the heck is going on here?
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6870|the dank(super) side of Oregon
Sarah Palin is Barack Hussein Obama's real mother.  There, I said it.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6891|132 and Bush

ATG wrote:

What the heck is going on here?
Admit it.. you don't want to know.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6891|132 and Bush

ATG wrote:

I still have mine.
Prove it ... lolz
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6964|Canberra, AUS

ATG wrote:

Okay, wait a minute, there is a another contradiction on Obamas own website;

1. Barack Hussein OBAMA was born on 4 August 1961 at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to
http://my.barackobama.com/page/communit … jaz/gGxqmC


vrs "  Obama described his birth at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Hawaii
Aug. 4, 1961, to a young white woman from Kansas and a father of Luo ethnicity from Nyanza province in Kenya,  "

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/11/04/ … 225647000/



What the heck is going on here?
Kapiolani was a Queen, apparently the medical centre was established in her name, so I guess it could make sense...
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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