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2009-06-25 10:34:03

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6990

DrunkFace wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:

How the fuck would you know?
Tell me why would a woman degrade herself to wearing a Burqa... Head scarve I may understand but seriously a fucking Burqa? Unless they are crazily conservative... Kinda like why would a woman get a female circumsicion. Burqa's are nothing compared to that...
The same reason Maoris still get tribal tattoos.
The same reason many subcontinent men wear a turbans and sikhisms.
The same reason the Kayan women still wear neck rings.

To honour their culture, their history, their ancestors.

You don't have to understand it, its how they feel and its has nothing to do with anyone else.

Do that shit back home. I can understand other types of hijabs but the Burqa... Well there are huge security reasons. Identity theft made easy.

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2009-06-25 11:02:09

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

S.Lythberg wrote:
The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.

All white hooded robes were already taken.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-06-25 11:14:20

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6895|London, England

Kmarion wrote:
S.Lythberg wrote:
The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.
All white hooded robes were already taken.

I can see how you'd get alot of women being forced into it, but there's also probably quite a few who are devoted enough to want it themselves. Just like nuns and monks and all the other crazy die hard religious folk, you could say the same brainwashing/terrified shit about them too. But obviously most people do it out of devotion to their religions

2009-06-25 11:27:46

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

I win.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-06-25 11:40:21

Agent_Dung_Bomb: Member; +302|7010|Salt Lake City

Do you think it would work to tell the terrorists that the one that kills the most other terrorists gets twice as many virgins in heaven?

2009-06-25 14:47:56

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7035

look above your post. but, i am flattered.

2009-06-26 09:08:30

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6955|Disaster Free Zone

Cybargs wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:
Cybargs wrote:

Tell me why would a woman degrade herself to wearing a Burqa... Head scarve I may understand but seriously a fucking Burqa? Unless they are crazily conservative... Kinda like why would a woman get a female circumsicion. Burqa's are nothing compared to that...
The same reason Maoris still get tribal tattoos.
The same reason many subcontinent men wear a turbans and sikhisms.
The same reason the Kayan women still wear neck rings.

To honour their culture, their history, their ancestors.

You don't have to understand it, its how they feel and its has nothing to do with anyone else.
Do that shit back home. I can understand other types of hijabs but the Burqa... Well there are huge security reasons. Identity theft made easy.

We're not arguing about security reasons, we're arguing about it being banned "if it is found to be degrading for women." Or maybe you could have just read my first post in this topic, its on the first page... the 5th response.

DrunkFace wrote:
The fuck?

At least come up with a decent reason like security or something.

And looked less the tool.

2009-06-28 13:18:59

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6679|North Carolina

Pat Condell has a good video about this...

Last edited by Turquoise (2009-06-28 13:19:26)

2009-06-28 13:32:37

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6727|The Twilight Zone

not contributing to peace with Muslim brothers...

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2009-06-28 16:19:40

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6925|USA

Macbeth wrote:
The French government says it may impose restrictions on wearing the burqa, or face-and-body-covering veil, if a parliamentary probe finds the garment degrading for women. The burqa debate is dividing politicians and the Muslim community.

Government spokesman Luc Chatel became the latest politician to wade into a growing debate over the burqa in France, telling French television on Friday the government may consider curbs on wearing the head-to-toe garment if it is found to be degrading for women.

A group of nearly 60 French lawmakers are asking for a parliamentary panel to consider restrictions on the burqa, which is also called the niqab.
http://www.voanews.com/english/images/a … 9Jun09.jpg
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-06-19-voa51.cfm
Hmm well that is a clever way for trying to run all the Muslims out.

Hmmmmmmm, with just a "FEW" Muslims in Europe, I am left wondering how this got on the French radar screen.

2009-06-28 16:22:54

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6925|USA

DrunkFace wrote:
The fuck?

At least come up with a decent reason like security or something. Banning because its 'degrading for women' is like banning bright red lipstick cause it makes you look like a whore, they wear it by choice of their own freewill for fucks sake.

Ok, how about the real reason? France, like the US, is not the fucking Middle East, if you want a Middle Eastern culture then move your ass to the Middle East. Does that work for ya?

How was my PC, too much?

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2009-06-28 18:03:55

destruktion_6143: Was ist Loos?; +154|6900|Canada

lowing wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:
The fuck?

At least come up with a decent reason like security or something. Banning because its 'degrading for women' is like banning bright red lipstick cause it makes you look like a whore, they wear it by choice of their own freewill for fucks sake.
Ok, how about the real reason? France, like the US, is not the fucking Middle East, if you want a Middle Eastern culture then move your ass to the Middle East. Does that work for ya?

How was my PC, too much?

Truth.

2009-07-05 17:52:23

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6822|San Diego, CA, USA

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2009-07-06 08:44:15

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6925|USA

destruktion_6143 wrote:
lowing wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:
The fuck?

At least come up with a decent reason like security or something. Banning because its 'degrading for women' is like banning bright red lipstick cause it makes you look like a whore, they wear it by choice of their own freewill for fucks sake.
Ok, how about the real reason? France, like the US, is not the fucking Middle East, if you want a Middle Eastern culture then move your ass to the Middle East. Does that work for ya?

How was my PC, too much?
Truth.

Notice how everyone bails when PC is removed and you are left to face indisputable truth?

2009-07-06 14:31:12

Stubbee: Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts; +223|7017|Reality

Drunkface:

Certain islamic countries have religious police walking the streets. If they find a lone women, they hit her. If they don't like her attire or how it is worn, they hit her. If a religion needs a bunch of religious, 99% male assholes running around beating women they feel are not complying with islam's religious tenets, then for sure there will be some women who want to be rid of the damned burka/niqab but fear for their safety.

The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'

2009-07-10 21:42:21

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6822|San Diego, CA, USA

Law will let Afghan husbands starve wives who withhold sex

By Jerome Starkey in Bamiyan

Independent wrote:
Friday, 10 July 2009

An Afghan law which legalised rape has been sent back to parliament with a clause letting husbands starve their wives if they refuse to have sex.

President Hamid Karzai ordered a review of the legislation after The Independent revealed that it negated the need for consent within marriage.

Sad...

2009-07-10 23:29:07

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6925|USA

Stubbee wrote:
Drunkface:

Certain islamic countries have religious police walking the streets. If they find a lone women, they hit her. If they don't like her attire or how it is worn, they hit her. If a religion needs a bunch of religious, 99% male assholes running around beating women they feel are not complying with islam's religious tenets, then for sure there will be some women who want to be rid of the damned burka/niqab but fear for their safety.

So much for the "only a few" argument, I guess

2009-07-11 00:24:26

Spearhead: Gulf coast redneck hippy; +731|6963|Tampa Bay Florida

If I went downtown wearing the same thing the woman in the OP was wearing most likely I'd be arrested or fined or at least question by someone in law enforcement

Its a security risk, at least here in the US... who knows what you could be packing by wearing shit like that

2009-07-11 00:27:29

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

Spearhead wrote:
If I went downtown wearing the same thing the woman in the OP was wearing most likely I'd be arrested or fined or at least question by someone in law enforcement

Its a security risk, at least here in the US... who knows what you could be packing by wearing shit like that

questioned probably... arrested or fined probably not. Unless there was intent to cause social unrest or chaos.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-07-11 00:44:26

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6925|USA

Harmor wrote:
Law will let Afghan husbands starve wives who withhold sex

By Jerome Starkey in Bamiyan

Independent wrote:
Friday, 10 July 2009

An Afghan law which legalised rape has been sent back to parliament with a clause letting husbands starve their wives if they refuse to have sex.

President Hamid Karzai ordered a review of the legislation after The Independent revealed that it negated the need for consent within marriage.
Sad...

I love how when each example is taken alone it is only "a few" and when they are added up you are "generalizing". Well, it would appear the pacifist/apologists have their bases covered. Now if only they could do it with a realistic, blinders off, argument. then again, why would they need to do that?

Last edited by lowing (2009-07-11 00:45:14)

2009-07-11 02:08:24

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6948|Canberra, AUS

lowing wrote:
Harmor wrote:
Law will let Afghan husbands starve wives who withhold sex

By Jerome Starkey in Bamiyan

Independent wrote:
Friday, 10 July 2009

An Afghan law which legalised rape has been sent back to parliament with a clause letting husbands starve their wives if they refuse to have sex.

President Hamid Karzai ordered a review of the legislation after The Independent revealed that it negated the need for consent within marriage.
Sad...
I love how when each example is taken alone it is only "a few" and when they are added up you are "generalizing". Well, it would appear the pacifist/apologists have their bases covered. Now if only they could do it with a realistic, blinders off, argument. then again, why would they need to do that?

And I love how with every post you imply that Islam is evil and should be purged from America then when someone points out the practical consequences of such a philosophy you backtrack and say "no my problem is with Islam not with Muslims"

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2009-07-11 02:16:57

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6925|USA

Spark wrote:
lowing wrote:
Harmor wrote:
Law will let Afghan husbands starve wives who withhold sex

By Jerome Starkey in Bamiyan

Sad...
I love how when each example is taken alone it is only "a few" and when they are added up you are "generalizing". Well, it would appear the pacifist/apologists have their bases covered. Now if only they could do it with a realistic, blinders off, argument. then again, why would they need to do that?
And I love how with every post you imply that Islam is evil and should be purged from America then when someone points out the practical consequences of such a philosophy you backtrack and say "no my problem is with Islam not with Muslims"

Shit I didn't mean to imply Islam was evil, I meant to come right out and say Islam was evil. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

I have said several times, I judge people individually, I judge Islam as a whole. Sorry, there is a difference and it does make sense. Denying it, or dismissing it on your part, does not nullify it as a legitimate stance.

Do you notice how you did not deny what I posted, but instead tried to deflect it in another direction? Did you further notice how I met your posts head on? This is the difference between a legit argument, and tactics employed by most of you on this forum.

Last edited by lowing (2009-07-11 02:38:31)

2009-07-11 02:35:31

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|6990

Turquoise wrote:
Pat Condell has a good video about this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkxlzTZc48

Great video... Hard to argue with his logic...
"I would like to see the men wear these burqa's in the middle of the summer..."

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-07-11 02:38:38)

Love is the answer

2009-07-11 04:01:55

[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Pat Condell has a good video about this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkxlzTZc48
Great video... Hard to argue with his logic...
"I would like to see the men wear these burqa's in the middle of the summer..."

this cunt's logic is as twisted as his words. He starts off by saying that the burqa has nothing to do with Islam but still end up blaming Islam.

2009-07-11 04:51:33

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6938|NT, like Mick Dundee

mafia996630 wrote:
[TUF]Catbox wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Pat Condell has a good video about this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlkxlzTZc48
Great video... Hard to argue with his logic...
"I would like to see the men wear these burqa's in the middle of the summer..."
this cunt's logic is as twisted as his words. He starts off by saying that the burqa has nothing to do with Islam but still end up blaming Islam.

I didn't watch the video but I'm going to assume he was talking about the way Islam, just like Judaism, hasn't made a separation between government, culture and religion, unlike Christianity.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

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