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Uzique wrote:

lowing wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Varegg wrote:

FEOS wrote:

So now they don't have to worry about sneaking boyfriend/girlfriend in or out of their dorm rooms any more. Here's to making sexual logistics simpler.

But that was half the fun sneaking in ...

No shit. Now there's a whole generation missing out on that adult learning experience opportunity.

Presumably we're already missing out on that, because I don't know of any halls that aren't mixed gender.


He thinks that all 'young people' are having their way paid through life by their parents/the government/the taxpayer, so that was his opportunity to get in a jibe about that.

I'm sorry, I thought in socialized Europe, that people WERE having their way paid through college by the taxpayer, is this not true all of a sudden?

Damn us craaazy socialists...

Isn't part of the American Dream to be able to achieve and become all that you want to be? Why then do you endorse the blocking of lower-class, perfectly capable citizens from attending institutions of excellence, just because their wallet isn't big enough?

Yup, in America you are free to become all you want to be, it is of course meant to be accomplished through YOUR hard work and achievement, NOT the hard work and achievement of others.

Plenty of programs to help up "lower-class perfectly capable citizens who want to attend institutions of excellence".

By the way,what should be come of "lower class perfectly capable citizens" who do not choose to take advantage of socialized handouts? Still want to make life "fair" for them as well I suppose.

Uzique wrote:

Where could you possibly form the assumption that I support helping freeloading, no-effort fucksters... because I displayed support for academically-capable students with small wallets? I guess in your ideal America, nobody would be capable of attending their ideal college until their mid-40's, then, after 15 years of saving money at McDonalds...

You're incredibly narrowminded, it's actually shocking.

I formed the idea when you endorsed a "fair" socialized society where the producers of said society is FORCED to cover the lives of the non-producers. Ya know, "craaaazy socialists"

you endorse handing over college education through the efforts of others instead of through the efforts of yourself.

You do not display "support for academically-capable students with small wallets". What you display is a free handout to them which is forced to be paid for by someone else.

Uzique wrote:

lowing wrote:

Uzique wrote:

Where could you possibly form the assumption that I support helping freeloading, no-effort fucksters... because I displayed support for academically-capable students with small wallets? I guess in your ideal America, nobody would be capable of attending their ideal college until their mid-40's, then, after 15 years of saving money at McDonalds...

You're incredibly narrowminded, it's actually shocking.

I formed the idea when you endorsed a "fair" socialized society where the producers of said society is FORCED to cover the lives of the non-producers. Ya know, "craaaazy socialists"

you endorse handing over college education through the efforts of others instead of through the efforts of yourself.

You do not display "support for academically-capable students with small wallets". What you display is a free handout to them which is forced to be paid for by someone else.

It's not forced... don't like it - move. Most of the people that pay their taxes nowdays and contribute towards the younger generation went through the same system and lived on borrowed-money for 3/4 years, as well. The government provides the framework because it works: people achieve to their full potential and go on to become fully responsible, taxpaying citizens themselves. All in all, the quality of life and the national population's education standard rises, thanks to the big contributive cycle. In America, if you can't afford the top colleges... tough titty, know your place, etc. I know for sure which one I prefer, and I'm not significantly borrowing from the pockets of any begrudged British public.

LOL, "if you don't like it move." In other words forced to pay or forced to leave. But no one is forced, Gotcha ya.

then explain why people were flocking to America in droves seeking opportunity and freedom abandoning their home land, even when they know they must pay for their own schooling. While you are at it, exdplain how in 2 hundred years America has become the most genrerous and powerful country in the history of humanity. and yes I mean this even with our nations checkered past, which compared to Europes, is still tame.

It is not the govts. job to coddle its citizens. It is the govts job, through taxes, to provide the safe infrastructure for its citizens to achieve what they will.

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Wait seriously?  You guys are allowed to have male/female rooms?  St Mikes is Catholic so we're not even allowed to be on the same floor
Damnit I should have lived in UC

Haha no good at all! One of the guys I know is going to try it with his girlfriend of 2 years- I'll give them a month. Most of the rooms are single anyways, so it really only affects a few people.

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

then explain why people were flocking to America in droves seeking opportunity and freedom abandoning their home land, even when they know they must pay for their own schooling. While you are at it, exdplain how in 2 hundred years America has become the most genrerous and powerful country in the history of humanity. and yes I mean this even with our nations checkered past, which compared to Europes, is still tame.

Because the US is a pretty good place to live all things considered. Much better than most places in the world.

Immigration is much the same in the UK, with droves of people trying to come here (in fact a much greater proportional number if you factor in population/landmass).

lowing wrote:

It is not the govts. job to coddle its citizens. It is the govts job, through taxes, to provide the safe infrastructure for its citizens to achieve what they will.

And providing affordable loans so students can pay for their own education and go on to be more productive members of society is coddling?

You think class being the major determining factor in where you are educated is better than aptitude being the biggest determining factor?

The US has plenty of English immigrants as well.


a loan for college is not "FREE" college. A loan is hand up, not a hand out. There is a difference. So no a loan is not coddling.

Actually no, I think it does not matter which school you attend. Unless of course 2 + 2 at Harvard equals something different than 2 + 2 at the community college.

If you are teaching facts on a subject, and not a personal agenda, what difference should it make?

Last edited by lowing (2009-07-08 13:00:55)

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Because the US is a pretty good place to live all things considered. Much better than most places in the world.

Immigration is much the same in the UK, with droves of people trying to come here (in fact a much greater proportional number if you factor in population/landmass).


And providing affordable loans so students can pay for their own education and go on to be more productive members of society is coddling?

You think class being the major determining factor in where you are educated is better than aptitude being the biggest determining factor?

The US has plenty of English immigrants as well.


a loan for college is not "FREE" college. A loan is hand up, not a hand out. There is a difference. So no a loan is not coddling.

Actually no, I think it does not matter which school you attend. Unless of course 2 + 2 at Harvard equals something different than 2 + 2 at the community college.

If you are teaching facts on a subject, and not a personal agenda, what difference should it make?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

glad you are amused, now how about addressing the point.

Last edited by lowing (2009-07-08 13:11:15)

Masques wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

then explain why people were flocking to America in droves seeking opportunity and freedom abandoning their home land, even when they know they must pay for their own schooling. While you are at it, exdplain how in 2 hundred years America has become the most genrerous and powerful country in the history of humanity. and yes I mean this even with our nations checkered past, which compared to Europes, is still tame.

Because the US is a pretty good place to live all things considered. Much better than most places in the world.

Immigration is much the same in the UK, with droves of people trying to come here (in fact a much greater proportional number if you factor in population/landmass).


And providing affordable loans so students can pay for their own education and go on to be more productive members of society is coddling?

You think class being the major determining factor in where you are educated is better than aptitude being the biggest determining factor?

The US has plenty of English immigrants as well.


a loan for college is not "FREE" college. A loan is hand up, not a hand out. There is a difference. So no a loan is not coddling.

Actually no, I think it does not matter which school you attend. Unless of course 2 + 2 at Harvard equals something different than 2 + 2 at the community college.

If you are teaching facts on a subject, and not a personal agenda, what difference should it make?

If it's Harvard versus...say U. Mass then you have a point, but there are worlds of difference between Harvard and a 2yr CC degree in terms of reputation and access.

access yes, but what is the difference really, between 4 years at Harvard and 4 years at a local college? isn't English still English, isn't math still math and isn't science still science?

http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/dai … inaid.html

Poor to low/middle-income but smart students get a free ride at Harvard:
"Reinforcing its commitment to opportunity and excellence across the economic spectrum, Harvard today (March 30) announced a significant expansion of its 2004 financial aid initiative for low- and middle-income families. Beginning with the class admitted this week, parents in families with incomes of less than $60,000 will no longer be expected to contribute to the cost of their children attending Harvard. In addition, Harvard will reduce the contributions of families with incomes between $60,000 and $80,000."


Most get some type of financial aid:
"Two-thirds of Harvard students receive financial aid, and the average grant award for next year is expected to be more than $33,000, or 70 percent of the total cost of attendance. In the past decade, Harvard has reduced the median four-year debt for graduating seniors from more than $16,000 to $6,400 - less than one-third of the national average of $20,000."

lowing wrote:

Masques wrote:

lowing wrote:

The US has plenty of English immigrants as well.


a loan for college is not "FREE" college. A loan is hand up, not a hand out. There is a difference. So no a loan is not coddling.

Actually no, I think it does not matter which school you attend. Unless of course 2 + 2 at Harvard equals something different than 2 + 2 at the community college.

If you are teaching facts on a subject, and not a personal agenda, what difference should it make?

If it's Harvard versus...say U. Mass then you have a point, but there are worlds of difference between Harvard and a 2yr CC degree in terms of reputation and access.

access yes, but what is the difference really, between 4 years at Harvard and 4 years at a local college? isn't English still English, isn't math still math and isn't science still science?

lol if that were true, why would anyone spend the huge sum money to go to Harvard or any other prestigious uni instead of joining a local community college for a fraction of that price?

Bertster7 wrote:

No. Curiculums are vastly different. Also, more importantly, your career prospects are dramatically different with a degree from a top university.

this.

[-DER-]Omega wrote:

lowing wrote:

Masques wrote:

If it's Harvard versus...say U. Mass then you have a point, but there are worlds of difference between Harvard and a 2yr CC degree in terms of reputation and access.

access yes, but what is the difference really, between 4 years at Harvard and 4 years at a local college? isn't English still English, isn't math still math and isn't science still science?

lol if that were true, why would anyone spend the huge sum money to go to Harvard or any other prestigious uni instead of joining a local community college for a fraction of that price?

Bertster7 wrote:

No. Curiculums are vastly different. Also, more importantly, your career prospects are dramatically different with a degree from a top university.

this.

prestige..............see, you answered your own question.

[-DER-]Omega wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

No. Curiculums are vastly different. Also, more importantly, your career prospects are dramatically different with a degree from a top university.

If curriculums are vastly different, then it is not academics, rather opinion, that is being taught.

Undoubtedly the level of study and expectancies involved in a university such as Harvard are quite simply much higher than in community colleges. I attend one and they require only the bare minimums to "succeed" in. There are many advanced courses that comm. colleges simply do not offer, therefore, your potential for learning is quite limited.

you are adding advanced courses to this.

I am comparing apple to apples, math 101 in Harvard, should teach the same thing as math 101 in a CC. Is this not correct?