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wars and rumors of wars , fighting everywhere <~~~~~~shakes head
I am watching it on CNN... they aren't allowing him to land
and they are trying to find a new place to land... They say the military will arrest
him if he lands and gets out...
and they are trying to find a new place to land... They say the military will arrest
him if he lands and gets out...
Love is the answer
live feed dead , switching to CNN
now CNN switched to Jesse Jackson and his feelings on Michael Jacksons family...lol
Love is the answer
lol , i know, sheesh , here's a twitter update http://twitter.com/BreakingNews[TUF]Catbox wrote:
now CNN switched to Jesse Jackson and his feelings on Michael Jacksons family...lol
Why does Obama support a guy who tried, basically though an executive order, to extend his presidency? I would hope we do the same if a president tried to do that by violating our 25th Amendment.
And Honduras? Its ok to mettle there?
Those websites are all saying the plane's been diverted to Nicaragua, so much for that
thats greatMekstizzle wrote:
Those websites are all saying the plane's been diverted to Nicaragua, so much for that
i know, makes you think , hmmmHarmor wrote:
Why does Obama support a guy who tried, basically though an executive order, to extend his presidency? I would hope we do the same if a president tried to do that by violating our 25th Amendment.
He actually had a referendum and received enough votes to make it happen. It would be different if he had just said, I am president for life.nibiru2012 wrote:
i know, makes you think , hmmmHarmor wrote:
Why does Obama support a guy who tried, basically though an executive order, to extend his presidency? I would hope we do the same if a president tried to do that by violating our 25th Amendment.
Really, this issue is more complicated than it seems.
that's what I don't understand all the hoopla's about , the old prez was a crook , I kinda like the new government , they stood up , qudos for themATG wrote:
He actually had a referendum and received enough votes to make it happen. It would be different if he had just said, I am president for life.nibiru2012 wrote:
i know, makes you think , hmmmHarmor wrote:
Why does Obama support a guy who tried, basically though an executive order, to extend his presidency? I would hope we do the same if a president tried to do that by violating our 25th Amendment.
Really, this issue is more complicated than it seems.
Last edited by nibiru2012 (2009-07-05 21:34:49)
I don't know how their Constitution works, but in the United States it would take 2/3rds of all State legislators to pass an amendment to remove the 25th Amendment (2 terms for a President).
More than that. It takes 2/3 of both houses and 3/4 of state legislatures.Harmor wrote:
I don't know how their Constitution works, but in the United States it would take 2/3rds of all State legislators to pass an amendment to remove the 25th Amendment (2 terms for a President).
I read in a news article, that I can't find now, that the Honduras constitution only permits a president to have one term and that the consitution has a provision in it that says that any person attempting to change the term limits provision is a traitor. If true, the mere attempt to hold the referendum means Zelaya is a traitor under the constitution.... so if a president violates the constitution in such a manner, and he is removed from office for being a traitor... is that a coup?
Why does the whole frikken world support a guy who did that? The Honduran army upheld their constitution. Just like the US Forces are supposed to do if their CinChief went nutso and declared himself President for Life. I know Zelaya hasn't yet but I do not doubt that it is his plan. With buddies like Castro and Chavez, heroes of democracy that they are, how could he not?Harmor wrote:
Why does Obama support a guy who tried, basically though an executive order, to extend his presidency? I would hope we do the same if a president tried to do that by violating our 25th Amendment.
Who the fuck do the OAS think they are? Interfering in an internal Honduran matter? The Honduran courts said Zelaya's 'referendum' was illegal, their congress said this also. The should have just arrested the guy and tried and impeached him. (Or whatever the Honduran equivalent process is)
source
The military removed Zelaya under orders from the Supreme Court and with the support of Congress, which is controlled by Zelaya's Liberal Party — though nearly all members had turned against him. Lawmakers unanimously installed as president congressional leader Roberto Micheletti, who says he will serve out Zelaya's term and oversee November elections to choose a successor.
No it isn't.Diesel_dyk wrote:
I read in a news article, that I can't find now, that the Honduras constitution only permits a president to have one term and that the consitution has a provision in it that says that any person attempting to change the term limits provision is a traitor. If true, the mere attempt to hold the referendum means Zelaya is a traitor under the constitution.... so if a president violates the constitution in such a manner, and he is removed from office for being a traitor... is that a coup?
ATG wrote:
He actually had a referendum and received enough votes to make it happen. It would be different if he had just said, I am president for life.nibiru2012 wrote:
i know, makes you think , hmmmHarmor wrote:
Why does Obama support a guy who tried, basically though an executive order, to extend his presidency? I would hope we do the same if a president tried to do that by violating our 25th Amendment.
Really, this issue is more complicated than it seems.
same source as aboveAt issue was a referendum Zelaya planned to hold the day of the coup, asking voters if they would support a subsequent vote to modify the constitution. Critics feared he would use it to do away with term limits and run again — something Chavez and other Latin American leftist leaders have succeeded in doing. Supporters of Colombian President Alvaro Uribe, a conservative U.S. ally, also have proposed extending term limits to allow him to run again.
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The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
You are correct.Diesel_dyk wrote:
I read in a news article, that I can't find now, that the Honduras constitution only permits a president to have one term and that the consitution has a provision in it that says that any person attempting to change the term limits provision is a traitor. If true, the mere attempt to hold the referendum means Zelaya is a traitor under the constitution.... so if a president violates the constitution in such a manner, and he is removed from office for being a traitor... is that a coup?
There is no reason Obama should be in bed with these people.
"This is a moment when the U.S. ought to be on the side of the rule of law, which the Honduran court and Congress upheld. If Washington does not reverse course, it will be one more act of appeasement toward an ambitious and increasingly dangerous dictator."
Chavez, the same thing could be said about him.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124683595220397927.html
The United States should assassinate Hugo Chavez.
But instead, we propped him up when he shat on the constitution of his country.
Well, hopefully, this means Obama will retract his statement against the Honduran government ousting this guy.
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