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jonnykill wrote:

Whew ! You really got me there man . Fuck ! I hate getting owned like that .

LOL another example of a whipped arguement that has no factual basis.

I am assuming that you DIDN'T get laid last night .lol

Last edited by lowing (2006-04-01 15:42:00)

jonnykill wrote:

lowing wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

Whew ! You really got me there man . Fuck ! I hate getting owned like that .

LOL another example of a whipped arguement that has no factual basis.

I am assuming that you DIDN'T get laid last night .lol

No , it's a fact you fucking owned me man . Your the man . The on-line defender of freddom and democracy .

lol

lowing wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

Ummm yeah . Like I said touture can be used , with a prisioner worthy of being tourtured that posses information that can be used against him and his cause , not some poor shmuck who is actually a fucking taxi cab driver . But I guess this was one of "thousands of mistakes" Old Codie was telling the news the other day. Beyond that yes , putting a random fucking soldier in charge of tourture and interrogation is unprofessional , don't you agree ? He does as he is told and then is thrown into jail for breaking the "law" while under orders . That my friend is un-fucking-professional . Imagine being in that guys shoes . I joined the Army to defend my country for a spat . If I was ordered to do that shit I'd tell my command to go fuck themselves point blank . And if I was FORCED  I certainly wouldn't be taking pictures of it .

  Back pedling huh ? I'm not a back pedler Bush is the back pedler . Listen to what he tells America

On a ship with the "Mission Accomplished banner" he says " We've removed an ally of Al Quada "

One year later " We , we , we've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved with Sep 11th "

These are his own words , that he stubles upon because he knows it's bullshit .


http://www.dumpalink.com/media/11374965 … 1_and_Iraq

Well I see I will get no "thank yous" for posting the article YOU requested on the progress being made in Iraq. Not a thank you or an acknowledgement that such things are happening......You left that arguement and went into disecting "what ya meant" I guess, on the "torture scanal".

Ok so on to it then....you have cut up your arguement enough to warrant an agreement from me......the fact that these poor MPs with no training in such things carried this out seems outrageous. Worse yet, they are being hung out to dry as well, so it seems. (based on the THIS video alone I form an opinion, I reserve the right to change my opinion as I learn more about this ). So for that much I agree.

Now on to you and Bush and Sadaam and AL Queda.

There appears no disputing Sadaam Husseins link to Al Queda from anyone but you.

Noone ever said Sadaam was involved in 911 ( though it was investagated I am sure )in fact it has been well stated that he wasn't involved.

It has also been proven that AL Queda WAS involved in 911.....A good hint to this is they pretty much admitted to it.

So, Sadaam has links to Al Queda not 911.

Al Queda has links to 911 AND Sadaam.

Therefore the " We've removed an ally of Al Queda " statement is correct.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

Osama bin Laden's mortal enemy is.... SADDAM HUSSEIN.

1. He set up a SECULAR GOVERNMENT which did not enforce fundementalist Islam

2. By invading Kuwait he brought INFIDELS to HOLY SOIL.

NO!
2.

More scare tactics ......

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co … 81_pf.html

It's pretty much 6-7 posts that I simply just can't bother taking your argument seriously because it is so weak .

Besides what Senator wouldn't come back from Iraq with good news after a good old dog and pony show ?

Want to believe and admit Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Al Quada . Nigga please .......add more periods in your next retarded post please .........your slacking off ..........................................................

lowing wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

It's pretty much 6-7 posts that I simply just can't bother taking your argument seriously because it is so weak .

Besides what Senator wouldn't come back from Iraq with good news after a good old dog and pony show ?

Want to believe and admit Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Al Quada . Nigga please .......add more periods in your next retarded post please .........your slacking off ..........................................................

did you even bother to read the fuckin thing??........were you even in Iraq to dispute it??.........Do you have inside knowledge that the govt. doesn't have, that allows you to prove Sadaam had no communications with terrorist??.......if not then you base all your bullshit on what you WANT to believe and not what the facts are.....and again all you have left is attacking how I type lol

Shucks - owned again .

jonnykill wrote:

lowing wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

It's pretty much 6-7 posts that I simply just can't bother taking your argument seriously because it is so weak .

Besides what Senator wouldn't come back from Iraq with good news after a good old dog and pony show ?

Want to believe and admit Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Al Quada . Nigga please .......add more periods in your next retarded post please .........your slacking off ..........................................................

did you even bother to read the fuckin thing??........were you even in Iraq to dispute it??.........Do you have inside knowledge that the govt. doesn't have, that allows you to prove Sadaam had no communications with terrorist??.......if not then you base all your bullshit on what you WANT to believe and not what the facts are.....and again all you have left is attacking how I type lol

Shucks - owned again .

yup ok johnnykill, I can tell you are out of ways to try and pass your rhetoric on as fact.  Since you have been shown everything you ask for and you still don't want to acknowledge anything, there is nothing left to assume other than you are stubborn like a 3 year old. There is no sence trying to confuse you with the facts your mind is made up....... and you havevn't said anything for the past several posts that remotely reflects you being anything other than some punk. and  by you using the words "owned" and "pwned" proves that  in spades.

Last edited by lowing (2006-04-01 20:56:41)

cpt.fass1 wrote:

lowing wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Well the main problem with the Iraq war that's still going on is ongoing mobility. Meaning that once we beat the crap out of a country that was never really a threat, but we made into one, a country that's really a threat will be a much harder battle.  We have 150k troops over in Iraq fighting or just worrying about road side bombs on a day to day basis. Majority of them don't want to be there anymore, everyone was looking for a quick battle then wrap it up go home. Now it's lasted 3-4 years with no signs of ending.  Now this is taking a toll on our troops and our walets and if one of the other real threats(Iran, North Korea) wants to start a war we'd be fucked.

Remember Russia use to be a major superpower in the world but running a war machine and battles with Afganistan bankrupted them and mother Russia colapesed.  What makes america any different?? We're not fighting an army here, we're not even fighting Iraq's(yet). We are fighting a Intellengence war with an army when it needs to be fought with "Intellengence" something the CIA doesn't have. This war to make us safe is putting us in more jeoperdy then protecting us on every angle.  Our deficit is at an all time high, the twin tower spot is still not rebuilt, New Orleans is still in shambles, we're sacrifising our futures and our childrens futures for a people that's going to enter the world econimy and steal decent paying jobs from our county.

And as long as it is "willed" to be a losing war, so it might be. Our country is in a war. A war that was declared on us back in '98.....It is time America starts acting like we are in a war and stop bellyaching over there daily dumbshit. Cuz here is a news flash........the more the terrorist see the division in America the more  drive they have to fight and fight harder....make no mistake......the liberals in this country are the best allies the terrorist have...

Well who are we at war with? Well our troops are in Iraq, but they don't seem to be fighting Iraqies. As far as I'm concerned we won the war on Iraq, the war on terror is an ongoing thing that can't be fought with an army. Now the longer we're over there the more damage is done to america on a econimic scale. It basically goes to Bush bankrupting an other company.

Over and over again

We are at war with terrorist and it is a world war.

We were in France during WW2 fighting Germans what is your point?

The only 2 choices are fight or cower and bend to the will of those who want to destroy our way of life, if there is a third choice I am listening but for theentire clinton administration we talked and talked and talked, while we ignored attack after attack after attack, so I won't buy into anymore talking, or negotiating, or threatening with sanctions..ya gotta come up with a REAL third alternative.

jonnykill wrote:

The third option is to take over the world , just like the Wolfowitz doctrine . It's REAL because it's taking place .

If world domination is what it takes to bring all of this terror bullshit to an end then so be it.

lowing wrote:

jonnykill wrote:

The third option is to take over the world , just like the Wolfowitz doctrine . It's REAL because it's taking place .

If world domination is what it takes to bring all of this terror bullshit to an end then so be it.

It just might be but there is nothing that will make me believe we won't end up like the Germans . Learn how to speak Chineese , it might come in handy some day . World domination is immpossible . And if you watched that video of how that woman said we didn't take out Saddam because he was a threat , we took over Iraq to make friends and secure bases there , a foot hold in an ATTEMPT of world domination. It's impossible to take over the world genius boy . And I don't any part of it but I have no choice really but to hope we end up on top . But that shit isn't going to happen and the rest of the world will make sure of it . It couldn't be done by a blitzkreig and it can't be done a bit at a time country by country . It will come to a head at some point and we will lose . It just can't be done lowing . History repetes it's self , why are we going to attempt to do something we know has failed ?

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Yeah it's a world war that we acting like it's just Iraq, you keep hearing if you bring stablility to Iraq you stabilize the whole region.

Correct, And at the least it will be more stable than it was.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Iraq was never a major roll in any of the terrorist attacks, majority of them come from Jordan, saudi, and Afganistan.

The Terrorist themselves were of those nationality's.
Evidence points to Iraq's infrastructure and Intelligence system supporting the Terror networks.... It doesn't anymore.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

And Clinton missled the shit out of Afganistan.

Correct and they are still pissed off about that tent. The military Community refers to those strikes as " pounding sand with million dollar missiles "

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Yeah we fought an invading army in WW2

Right  After " Japan" Attacked us, We Fought Germany..in North Africa, I am sure you can see my point.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

so my point is that we're fighting a war that needs to be bassed on intellegence with an army.

More To the point is we're fighting a war using intelligence with an Army.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

And that army is only fighting foreign fighters that come to them,
also making the country that we are trying to turn into our ally's people sick of us.

Iraqis are sick of the War that foreign fighters bring. they know why we are there.
There have been cases of Towns massacring insurgents Who believed the reports of  "Local support "  our own media dishes out. They made the mistake of just strolling in.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

It's definatly not all warm hugs and cheers of the americans over there,

Sometimes it isn't, They would like their country peaceful and prosperous as would we all.
We look, talk, smell and pray Different. One step at a time. Look how long it took to get Germany and Japan on their feet. Some sense of history, Hind sight and foresight is required.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

think about how you would feel if there was an invading army on our soil trying to make our lives better.

Like if the 82 Airborne came down and kicked the ATF out of WACO Texas?
Or the 101st Airborne came down to Alabama and Made public schools safe for black children?  Like that? Because the 101st did.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

You don't think that the iraqies have an education system over there that teaches them the old iraq way of life is the best one?

No I dont.  Under Saddam They needed to be government approved to Have a TV. Now they don't. These people aren't as Naive.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

We have many countries who are allies over there but a lot of reliougious zelots who are against our ways. So we might be able to put an other ally into power but will we ever have the true trust of the people?

I would settle for .. Ally, Respect or Fear, in that order. We are working on the first. We have the other two.
" friendship and trust must be earned over time, At least They know now we Wont " Cut and Run "  Ala clinton. 
You don't get any Allies, Respect or Fear that way. Just lots of attacks. we all agree on this.
We are in it for the long haul and Bush couldn't care less what Hollywood and school kids think.
He doesn't care about polls, he is going to see it through.

Last edited by Horseman 77 (2006-04-02 14:45:36)

Define " terrorist " .........