ATG
Banned
+5,233|6823|Global Command
http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/su … 646777_ITM

Certainly one of the top problems confronting California is the unrestrained legal and illegal immigration from Mexico as well as Latin America, Asia, Russia, and the Middle East. The sheer size of this immigration invasion has already Balkanized large parts of the state and transformed many areas into Third World enclaves that are unlikely to assimilate any time soon. These huge and expanding foreign populations present serious challenges relative to national security and the threat of terrorism. Yet, while American citizens are being subjected to ever more intrusive controls and restrictions, Governor Gray Davis and the California legislature have passed legislation to provide driver's licenses to illegal aliens.
From 2003.


The eighth largest economy in the world is going down. The legislators will not pass a balanced budget and the state faces a three notch devaluing of it's bond rating, which is already listed as negative. This will cause investors to dump muni. bonds, and woe to thee, O California citizens.


This state has learned nothing since that article was published in 2003. More businesses have left, more want to leave and taxes and fees only go up and up.

Meanwhile, whole cities are being abandoned to the illegal alien invasion ( see Pomona as an example ).


I have gambled on this state. I turned down an offer of 40k to sell a portion of my business and bug out.


Why?









Because of the certainty of a crash.




Post crash, the state will have to address fundamentals. The state must go bankrupt, and it will as that is the only way to get sustainable contracts. Under current law, these budget killing contracts cannot be altered.



But they can in bankruptcy court.



After the shock wave blows away, the economy will begin to recover. It has to.


There is no bad economy, there is only a lack of a good economy.


Meanwhile, across the plains, New York goes insane.
http://wcbstv.com/politics/espada.senat … 56280.html
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6699|North Carolina
I think the U.S. is starting to feel the burden of being too big for one government to handle.

Maybe more decentralization is in order....
TopHat01
Limitless
+117|6198|CA
Luckily I'm in the portion of CA that doesn't see much of this, but it still sucks ass.
imortal
Member
+240|6959|Austin, TX

Turquoise wrote:

I think the U.S. is starting to feel the burden of being too big for one government to handle.

Maybe more decentralization is in order....
Hey, states rights?  Return more power to the states?  Yeah, right.  Like the feds would ever let that happen.
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7104|NÃ¥rvei

Turquoise wrote:

I think the U.S. is starting to feel the burden of being too big for one government to handle.

Maybe more decentralization is in order....
I thought it was very decentralized already ??

@ATG: No doubt bad economy excist ...
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6699|North Carolina

imortal wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I think the U.S. is starting to feel the burden of being too big for one government to handle.

Maybe more decentralization is in order....
Hey, states rights?  Return more power to the states?  Yeah, right.  Like the feds would ever let that happen.
I'd take it a step further.  Separate countries.  We're just too damn big.
jsnipy
...
+3,277|6816|...

good, Virginia would be in a great position, don't worry ATG, I'll vouch for you
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6926|949

So is it the budget kililng contracts, or the illegal alien invasion that's killing California?  Or is this another example of dissociation by ATG?

I read that article and the guy lists a myriad of problems befalling California (and you could interchange the US as a whole for most of them), but listing all these problems then coming back and saying "I told you so" is a bit excessive in my opinion.  Yes, there are issues that we (Californians) need to address.  The first and foremost is the fact that our government is spending more than they bring in.  Attribute the deficit after the fact to whatever issue makes you feel better, but we as Californians need to reign in our politicians (and by extension our government waste).

I am thinking that the State of California (and all states largely impacted by illegal immigration) needs to start charging the Federal Government for costs incurred due to illegal immigration.  I'm thinking along the lines of education, housing, and social welfare costs.  At the same time our government needs to strictly enforce current laws regarding employment and banking by and for illegal immigrants.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6823|Global Command

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

So is it the budget kililng contracts, or the illegal alien invasion that's killing California?  Or is this another example of dissociation by ATG?

I read that article and the guy lists a myriad of problems befalling California (and you could interchange the US as a whole for most of them), but listing all these problems then coming back and saying "I told you so" is a bit excessive in my opinion.  Yes, there are issues that we (Californians) need to address.  The first and foremost is the fact that our government is spending more than they bring in.  Attribute the deficit after the fact to whatever issue makes you feel better, but we as Californians need to reign in our politicians (and by extension our government waste).

I am thinking that the State of California (and all states largely impacted by illegal immigration) needs to start charging the Federal Government for costs incurred due to illegal immigration.  I'm thinking along the lines of education, housing, and social welfare costs.  At the same time our government needs to strictly enforce current laws regarding employment and banking by and for illegal immigrants.
lol @ you thinking cali hasn't tried to get money for the costs. Talk about dissociation.

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