Stubbee
Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts
+223|6982|Reality
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/22/obama.tobacco/


About friggin time! Nicotine was the only non controlled narcotic in the US.


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama signed landmark legislation Monday giving the Food and Drug Administration new power to regulate the manufacturing, marketing and sale of tobacco.
President Obama says the new law "represents change that's been decades in the making."

President Obama says the new law "represents change that's been decades in the making."

The Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act gives the FDA power to ban candy-flavored and fruit-flavored cigarettes, widely considered appealing to first-time smokers, including youths. It also prohibits tobacco companies from using terms such as "low tar," "light" or "mild," requires larger warning labels on packages, and restricts advertising of tobacco products.

It also requires tobacco companies to reduce levels of nicotine in cigarettes.

The new law "represents change that's been decades in the making," Obama said during a bill-signing ceremony in the White House Rose Garden.

"The decades-long effort to protect our children [has] emerged victorious. ... Today, change has come."

Despite a significant decrease in the percentage of Americans who smoke in recent decades, more than 400,000 Americans still die from tobacco-related illnesses every year, the president noted. Tobacco-related health care costs exceed $100 billion annually.
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Altria Group, which owns Philip Morris USA, the nation's biggest cigarette company, previously called congressional passage of the law "an important step forward." At the same time, however, it also expressed "First Amendment reservations about certain provisions, including those that could restrict a manufacturer's ability to communicate truthful information to adult consumers about tobacco products."

Phillip Morris makes such brands as Marlboro, Virginia Slims, Chesterfield and Basic.

A narrow majority of adult Americans opposes the law, according to a Gallup Poll released Monday. Fifty-two percent of Americans -- including most smokers -- are opposed to the measure, while 46 percent support it. The survey was conducted June 14-17.

Before signing the bill, the president acknowledged the struggle that young people in particular face when they try to stop smoking.

"I know because I was one of those teenagers. I know how difficult it can be when you get started at a young age," he said.
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6860|London, England
You guys had candy flavoured and fruit flavoured cigs? That's quite cool actually, I think the best we have here are Menthols, about a year ago this month I last had a Menthol ciggie
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6932
This is good. I see way too many youngsters smoking.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6768|Global Command
All hail our genius messiah dictator.


Srs, there is no reason tobacco should be legal.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5825

ATG wrote:

All hail our genius messiah dictator.


Srs, there is no reason tobacco should be legal.
It's the only thing stopping me from rampaging during my day. But if there was a magic switch that would wipe it from the Earth, I don't know.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6888

Frankly, we have enough assholes in the world. I dread to think what it'd be like if those assholes couldn't get their nicotine intake.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6777|Long Island, New York
oh fuck, government intervention!1/1!11

RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6953|US
More government control...

Now the FDA can ban flavors of stuff...great! /sarcasm
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6684|The Land of Scott Walker
More "change has come"!  Wait ... aren't warning labels already on the packages and adverts already restricted?  Oh but clearly LARGER labels will make smokers think twice.  And less adverts might make it possible for them to forget about smoking all together!  Genius!  Now those naughty naughty cig companies won't be able to stuff their product into everyone's mug and light them up.  We're no longer victims!  We've been rescued!  Hurrah!
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6707
How dare the government attempt to restrict what goes into consumer products. I say we let the free market decide how much anti-freeze is allowed in milk.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6794

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

How dare the government attempt to restrict what goes into consumer products. I say we let the free market decide how much anti-freeze is allowed in milk.
/win
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5941|College Park, MD
People I'm all for smaller government but the FDA has its place. Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair (or at least read what it's about) to see what I mean. The main problem with the FDA is that it's corrupt, not that it's trying to protect consumers.
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HollisHurlbut
Member
+51|6236

Stingray24 wrote:

More "change has come"!  Wait ... aren't warning labels already on the packages and adverts already restricted?  Oh but clearly LARGER labels will make smokers think twice.
There's a Denis Leary bit from about fifteen years ago about this:

Denis Leary, not word-for-word but pretty close wrote:

There's a guy, I don't know if you've heard about this guy, he's been in the news a lot lately. There's a guy -- he's English -- I don't know if we should hold that against him, BUT -- apparently this is his life's dream cause he's going country to country, he has a senate hearing coming up in the next few weeks, and this is what he wants to do: he wants to make the warnings on the packs BIGGER.  Yeah!  He wants the whole front of the pack to be the warning.  Like the problem is we just haven't noticed yet.  Like he’s going to get his way and all of the sudden smokers around the world are going to be going, “Yeah, Bill, I’ve got some cigarettes here - HOLY SHIT! These things are bad for you! Shit, I thought they were good for you! I thought they had Vitamin C in them and stuff!”

It doesn't matter if you make the warnings bigger.  You could have cigarettes that were called Warnings.  You could have cigarettes that come in a black pack, with a skull and crossbones on the front... called "Tumors," and smokers would be lined up around the block.  "I can't wait to smoke these things; I bet you get a tumor as soon as you light up, numm numm numm!"
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6955
More tax ideas... keep them coming Obummer...  you are really outdoing yourself...  and make sure to keep smoking yourself.
Maybe you could add extra taxes on individuals if they have yet to start drinking the koolaid....
at least until everyone is onboard...  then they will be proud to pay more taxes for anything that is needed for their own good...

The wheels are coming off this presidents cart and it's only been a few months... The Chicago way is not what people voted for.
Even the State run media is figuring it out... other than ABC (All Barack Channel)     

Nice Job on Iran btw... waiting 5 days or so to condemn the violence... Hopefully soon you can sit down and have a burger with aquadinnajacket and get all this silly nuclear stuff ironed out...

Last edited by [TUF]Catbox (2009-06-22 17:02:46)

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RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6953|US

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

People I'm all for smaller government but the FDA has its place. Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair (or at least read what it's about) to see what I mean. The main problem with the FDA is that it's corrupt, not that it's trying to protect consumers.
Does banning flavors protect people?  What if Bob likes his fruit-flavored cigs?  Why should the FDA tell him which flavor he can smoke?
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5825

RAIMIUS wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

People I'm all for smaller government but the FDA has its place. Read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclair (or at least read what it's about) to see what I mean. The main problem with the FDA is that it's corrupt, not that it's trying to protect consumers.
Does banning flavors protect people?  What if Bob likes his fruit-flavored cigs?  Why should the FDA tell him which flavor he can smoke?
Think of the children!
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7001

control something that kills you?  word
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6644|North Carolina
Legalize, regulate, educate.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6739|so randum

Stingray24 wrote:

More "change has come"!  Wait ... aren't warning labels already on the packages and adverts already restricted?  Oh but clearly LARGER labels will make smokers think twice.  And less adverts might make it possible for them to forget about smoking all together!  Genius!  Now those naughty naughty cig companies won't be able to stuff their product into everyone's mug and light them up.  We're no longer victims!  We've been rescued!  Hurrah!
It seems to be working fine over here tbh.
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Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6787|San Diego, CA, USA
I wonder where Obama is going to get his cigarettes from now?  (He's a smoker)
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6739|so randum

Harmor wrote:

I wonder where Obama is going to get his cigarettes from now?  (He's a smoker)
Sorry where did it say smokes were being banned?
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Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6684|The Land of Scott Walker

FatherTed wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

More "change has come"!  Wait ... aren't warning labels already on the packages and adverts already restricted?  Oh but clearly LARGER labels will make smokers think twice.  And less adverts might make it possible for them to forget about smoking all together!  Genius!  Now those naughty naughty cig companies won't be able to stuff their product into everyone's mug and light them up.  We're no longer victims!  We've been rescued!  Hurrah!
It seems to be working fine over here tbh.
Excellent.  I'm happy to hear more useless government control is acceptable.  Well, at least they haven't eyed our beer yet.
mcjagdflieger
Champion of Dueling Rectums
+26|6549|South Jersey

FatherTed wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

More "change has come"!  Wait ... aren't warning labels already on the packages and adverts already restricted?  Oh but clearly LARGER labels will make smokers think twice.  And less adverts might make it possible for them to forget about smoking all together!  Genius!  Now those naughty naughty cig companies won't be able to stuff their product into everyone's mug and light them up.  We're no longer victims!  We've been rescued!  Hurrah!
It seems to be working fine over here tbh.
working fine? That'd be great and all, but theres nothing to work. We know cigs are bad. This is pointless legislation. You know what, bananas need a bigger Chiquita sticker, one that says I AM HEALTHY, EAT ME. Cuz as of right now, I do not think that fruit is healthy. I would like to spend some more of my tax dollars to determine if fruits and veggies are actually good for me, i suspect foul play.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6684|The Land of Scott Walker
+1
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|6955
I heard they are going to ban Guinness beer...lol

I am so glad there are people looking out for us...
Love is the answer

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