BF2S Forums Feature That I Can't Believe Was Left Out (Spectator Mode)

i'm actually rather pleased that spectator mode was left out of the game.  to many people used it in CS and other games for 'ghosting'. 

i just feel that spectator mode for the most part only helps people who want to cheat. 

except for those few people out there who would be willing to spend an hour watching someone else play to try to gain knowledge about certain tricks and tactics.

i think you guys are missing the point i was trying to make here.  let's say a new wallhack comes out called "ClearWalls 1.0."  this hack will be undetected by punkbuster for at least two weeks before it becomes popular enough that punkbuster will detect it and ban for using it.

even with a two week window, servers could be flooded with hackers who've downloaded ClearWalls 1.0 and admins currently have no way of seeing whether or not a player is wallhacking.  but if there was a spectator mode, a savvy admin would be able to spot the common movements and behaviors of a wallhacker and ban for it- with or without detection from punkbuster.

i know for a fact that i've been the victim of wallhackers in BF2 before.  once i was walking around the corner of a wall and was met with a grenade launcher before i even made the turn.  this was by a player who had not been able to see me from their vantage point before i walked out there.  after i was killed, i was like "nice wallhack, $playerName."  ...to which he replied, "yep, it works great."

sure it takes up valuable real estate on ranked servers to have the ability to be a spectator, but i think the good could outweigh the bad.  maybe sooner consider spectators idle the entire time and kick them after a defined amount of time to prevent ghosting.

i for one am very suspicious of anybody who can snipe from the carrier to the mainland in Dalian Plant.  and i've heard people brag about being able to snipe enemies from across Wake Island (across the bay area).  my draw distance is 100% and i cannot see enemies from either of those locations with my m95...

ive only seen one "hacker before", he was killing everybody with 2, maybe 3 shots in full auto from the G3 alot faster then he would have been able to switch targets:\ or maybe he was just really lucky? although there are some people with the M95 that make me wonder, as being shout ot of a jet a couple times as im flying with full afterburners gets me suspicious

quite possible that i was UAV'ed, yes.  but it seemed really fishy to me.  i would've loved to watch this guy play as a spectator, though.

It'd be fun, but it'd be abused so bad it wouldnt' be funny.

Spectator mode and Teamspeak, or a good old fashioned telephone is the first thing that comes to mind.  Too easy to use it to become a free permanent UAV (or multiple UAVs) that can even tell you what kit the bad guys are using, which one is the squad leader, etc.

You'll have to settle for Battlerecorder.  Me, I'd like to see more public Battlerecorder downloads, especially grudge matches, etc, and a better interface for using it (like notification when a round you've been playing is downloadable, and a click to download, without having to exit out to the main menu).

That Chams no Fog one. Geez. Yea you would be able to see everyone all the time. No hiding, no bushes just there you are plain as day and bam your dead.  I really hate cheaters.

I agree about allowing a spectator mode.  When I was adminning a CS server, I found it an invaluable tool to determine if someone was wallhacking, ghosting or aimbotting (or even glitching).

I will say however that I tended to error in favor of the player.  Bad cheaters have tell-tales.  Good Cheaters know how to cover their tracks.

but when you do that isn't it only in 3rd person view?  you would certainly need to see things through their "eyes" to be able to spot a hacker.

"Spectator Mode" would be good I used it alot on CS/CZ mainly for going too the toilet or for a smoke, but I did use it alot too watch other players too get tips or catch hackers.
And the kiddie hackers are starting too pop ther heads up .......... I've come across very few so far some people who are very suspect and if they are on the same server as me I will not stay but go too another server; but the other night I did see 11 people get kicked by an admin and he mentioned what hacks they where useing; mainly aim bots but 3 where useing "clipping hacks" had too ask my brother about that one seems they can walk thru walls with a clipping hack.