Israeli Settlements

2009-05-25 07:42:23

#26

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6811|Πάϊ

FEOS wrote:
Kids with Down Syndrome aren't mentally retarded? Try again. And maybe try with someone who doesn't have a kid who falls in the MR category.

Never heard of using kids with Down is all. Also thankfully for you and your family, your child's condition doesn't group you with the desperate. You're allowed to have a family. A home. A job. They've got nothing. Believe me if they had even the slightest reason to live there's no religion in the whole fucking world that would convince them to die.

I've talked to Palestinian immigrants here. After getting a taste of the life they can have in Greece not one of them was willing to strap a bomb around his waist.

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2009-05-25 07:49:11

#27

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7053

oug wrote:
I've talked to Palestinian immigrants here. After getting a taste of the life they can have in Greece not one of them was willing to strap a bomb around his waist.

yes because i am sure they would tell you they want to go blow up some jews....

2009-05-25 08:31:07

#28

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6697|North Carolina

It is true though that if the Jews were the ones living in cramped areas and the Palestinians were running Israel, the Jews would be the ones blowing people up and firing rockets into cities via terrorism and the Palestinians would be bombing the shit out of them.

Religion doesn't change human nature. Circumstances change techniques. That's really the only difference.

2009-05-25 09:51:20

#29

bogo24dk: Member; +26|6798

The only difference between a suicide bomber and a Idf soldier, is that the bomber dies in his blast and the soldier is still alive to rain more terror upon civilians.

2009-05-25 10:23:53

#30

TSI: Cholera in the time of love; +247|6272|Toronto

Turquoise wrote:
It is true though that if the Jews were the ones living in cramped areas and the Palestinians were running Israel, the Jews would be the ones blowing people up and firing rockets into cities via terrorism and the Palestinians would be bombing the shit out of them.

Religion doesn't change human nature. Circumstances change techniques. That's really the only difference.

This is the truth. Israel needs to learn it. And that involves them recognizing the accords they've signed, and recognizing that they're the cause of the violence against them. If someone invades your home, you're going to fight back.

I like pie.

2009-05-25 10:26:07

#31

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7053

bogo24dk wrote:
The only difference between a suicide bomber and a Idf soldier, is that the bomber dies in his blast and the soldier is still alive to rain more terror upon civilians.

lol

2009-05-25 10:26:19

#32

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6811|Πάϊ

usmarine wrote:
oug wrote:
I've talked to Palestinian immigrants here. After getting a taste of the life they can have in Greece not one of them was willing to strap a bomb around his waist.
yes because i am sure they would tell you they want to go blow up some jews....

ya why wouldn't they?

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2009-05-25 10:29:09

#33

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7053

oug wrote:
usmarine wrote:
oug wrote:
I've talked to Palestinian immigrants here. After getting a taste of the life they can have in Greece not one of them was willing to strap a bomb around his waist.
yes because i am sure they would tell you they want to go blow up some jews....
ya why wouldn't they?

o i dunno....

2009-05-25 10:33:10

#34

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6941

AutralianChainsaw wrote:
They are removing outposts, not settlements..

The israelis are playing with fire... obama seems to really want the pal state and he will not bow to AIPAC pressure. American money will stop flowing if the israelis do not obey.

Good to see America standing up for the poor Palestinian People.

Dude, Obama has sucked meters of AIPAC dick.

2009-05-25 10:34:42

#35

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6811|Πάϊ

...yes?

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2009-05-25 10:35:30

#36

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7053

oug wrote:
...yes?

because you dont blab stuff like that....especially in another country maybe?

2009-05-25 10:43:08

#37

oug: Calmer than you are.; +380|6811|Πάϊ

usmarine wrote:
oug wrote:
...yes?
because you dont blab stuff like that....especially in another country maybe?

You do if you're among the people that saved your ass from being deported back to Syria or Palestine or wherever the fuck you paid a shitload of money to get away from by clashing with the cops and occupying the mayor's office for a week or so.

And just to give you an idea of what it's like for them... Some of those guys got cornered at the port by the cops so they started banging their heads against some containers so that they'd get sent to the hospital instead of being deported right away - hoping that they'd find a way to escape from the hospital at some point.

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2009-05-25 11:17:08

#38

AutralianChainsaw: Member; +65|6490

ghettoperson wrote:
AutralianChainsaw wrote:
They are removing outposts, not settlements..

The israelis are playing with fire... obama seems to really want the pal state and he will not bow to AIPAC pressure. American money will stop flowing if the israelis do not obey.

Good to see America standing up for the poor Palestinian People.
Dude, Obama has sucked meters of AIPAC dick.

Obama is a very intelligent man.. he sucked AIPAC's dick BEFORE he was elected, i heard him talk about a united Jerusalem under israeli rule and crap like that at an AIPAC meeting.

He knew that he needed their full support if he wanted to get elected.. Now that he is president, i don't think he'll keep sucking that dirty dick.

He did more for the pals in 4 month than 8 years of Bush. He pissed off a lot of israeli lover and zionist by saying that by giving a state to the Palestinians, it will help solve the problem with Iran. Zionist don't want the two "problems" to be related..

I'm far from being an Obama fan (im a Ron Paul fan), but you must admit that since he's president, the tone is not the same now between israel and the US. I can hear the zionists crying from here... And just take a look at the comments on jpost.com.. they hate the guy.

And if they hate him, he must be doing something right

2009-05-25 12:44:16

#39

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6697|North Carolina

ghettoperson wrote:
AutralianChainsaw wrote:
They are removing outposts, not settlements..

The israelis are playing with fire... obama seems to really want the pal state and he will not bow to AIPAC pressure. American money will stop flowing if the israelis do not obey.

Good to see America standing up for the poor Palestinian People.
Dude, Obama has sucked meters of AIPAC dick.

True, but there's quite a lot of fanatical Muslim sucking going on in the Netherlands.

Every country has its illogical appeasements.

2009-05-25 14:36:24

#40

bogo24dk: Member; +26|6798

Turquoise wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
AutralianChainsaw wrote:
They are removing outposts, not settlements..

The israelis are playing with fire... obama seems to really want the pal state and he will not bow to AIPAC pressure. American money will stop flowing if the israelis do not obey.

Good to see America standing up for the poor Palestinian People.
Dude, Obama has sucked meters of AIPAC dick.
True, but there's quite a lot of fanatical Muslim sucking going on in the Netherlands.

Every country has its illogical appeasements.

Have you seen a powerful fanatical Muslim lobby in Holland ? Or anyone endorsing actions of fanatical Muslims in Holland ?

2009-05-25 15:17:58

#41

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6697|North Carolina

bogo24dk wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:

Dude, Obama has sucked meters of AIPAC dick.
True, but there's quite a lot of fanatical Muslim sucking going on in the Netherlands.

Every country has its illogical appeasements.
Have you seen a powerful fanatical Muslim lobby in Holland ? Or anyone endorsing actions of fanatical Muslims in Holland ?

I have seen them push forward laws against criticizing Islam. They also ousted an elected official over his opinions.

2009-05-28 06:51:15

#42

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6397|eXtreme to the maX

And another 'get bent' from Israel to her only ally.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8071491.stm

Israel will continue to allow some construction in West Bank settlements despite US calls for a freeze on its work, a government spokesman says.

Mark Regev said the fate of the settlements should be decided in peace negotiations with the Palestinians.

His remarks appear to be a rebuff to US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who said all such activity should cease.

Her comments came hours before Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was due to meet US President Barack Obama.

Mrs Clinton said on Wednesday there must be no exceptions to President Obama's demands for Israel's settlement work to stop.

Speaking to reporters after a meeting with her Egyptian counterpart, Mrs Clinton said that the president was "very clear" with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at their recent meeting that there should be a stop to all settlements.
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Under the US-backed 2003 roadmap peace plan, Israel is obliged to end all settlement activity, specifically including natural growth.

The plan also requires the Palestinian Authority to crack down on militants who seek to attack Israelis.

Fuck Israel

2009-05-28 07:08:07

#43

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6941

Turquoise wrote:
ghettoperson wrote:
AutralianChainsaw wrote:
They are removing outposts, not settlements..

The israelis are playing with fire... obama seems to really want the pal state and he will not bow to AIPAC pressure. American money will stop flowing if the israelis do not obey.

Good to see America standing up for the poor Palestinian People.
Dude, Obama has sucked meters of AIPAC dick.
True, but there's quite a lot of fanatical Muslim sucking going on in the Netherlands.

Every country has its illogical appeasements.

It's a country with a high Muslim/immigrant population, kinda stands to reason they're going to be more accepting of people from other places.

I think allowing a few Mosques to be built is slightly different to giving financial aid to a country that is using it to occupy Palestine.

Turquoise wrote:
bogo24dk wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
True, but there's quite a lot of fanatical Muslim sucking going on in the Netherlands.

Every country has its illogical appeasements.
Have you seen a powerful fanatical Muslim lobby in Holland ? Or anyone endorsing actions of fanatical Muslims in Holland ?
I have seen them push forward laws against criticizing Islam. They also ousted an elected official over his opinions.

The man was a racist douchebag, I somehow feel that if a KKK member was elected in the States he wouldn't be allowed to keep his position very long before being forced out.

But rather than trying to claim it's ok by dragging an irrelevant country into it (I'm not Dutch btw), it should be time the US withdraws or at the very least cuts funding to Israel to send them a message.

That said, despite Obama's apparent drop in support for Israel since being elected, there's no way they'd get funding cuts past Congress, AIPAC has their claws way too deep in there.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2009-05-28 07:13:03)

2009-05-28 07:55:51

#44

JahManRed: wank; +646|6920|IRELAND

Israel will continue to allow some construction in West Bank settlements despite US calls for a freeze on its work, a government spokesman says.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 071491.stm

Maybe time to stop sending them millions of dollars worth of guns and shit now?

2009-05-28 10:21:13

#45

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6873|SE London

Turquoise wrote:
bogo24dk wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

True, but there's quite a lot of fanatical Muslim sucking going on in the Netherlands.

Every country has its illogical appeasements.
Have you seen a powerful fanatical Muslim lobby in Holland ? Or anyone endorsing actions of fanatical Muslims in Holland ?
I have seen them push forward laws against criticizing Islam. They also ousted an elected official over his opinions.

What and who?

2009-05-28 10:33:19

#46

Man With No Name: جندي; +148|5866|The Wild West

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke

2009-05-28 10:34:38

#47

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6941

Bertster7 wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
bogo24dk wrote:

Have you seen a powerful fanatical Muslim lobby in Holland ? Or anyone endorsing actions of fanatical Muslims in Holland ?
I have seen them push forward laws against criticizing Islam. They also ousted an elected official over his opinions.
What and who?

I thought he meant Geert Wilders. Although I thought he was still in Parliment, but I assumed (probably a stupid mistake on my part) that Turq knew something I didn't.

2009-05-28 10:43:54

#48

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6873|SE London

ghettoperson wrote:
Bertster7 wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

I have seen them push forward laws against criticizing Islam. They also ousted an elected official over his opinions.
What and who?
I thought he meant Geert Wilders. Although I thought he was still in Parliment, but I assumed (probably a stupid mistake on my part) that Turq knew something I didn't.

I thought he meant him too. But he's still in Parliament. Hasn't been ousted from anything.

I am unaware of any elected Dutch officials being ousted over their views on Islam.

There seems to be a lot of hearsay about Islamist appeasment in the Netherlands, but I don't see a lot of concrete facts.

2009-05-28 10:48:03

#49

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6941

Facts are inconvenient.

2009-05-28 14:07:09

#50

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6697|North Carolina

ghettoperson wrote:
Facts are inconvenient.

Yes, they are... aren't they?

I was wrong about Wilders being ousted, because I had mistaken one of the more recent trials against him as being successful. It wasn't. The Netherlands defended his freedom of speech. So, kudos to the Netherlands for that.

Still, this has happened recently...

"On 21 January 2009, a three judge court ordered prosecutors to try him. Their statement argued that "In a democratic system, hate speech is considered so serious that it is in the general interest to... draw a clear line" and that "The court also considers appropriate criminal prosecution for insulting Muslim worshippers because of comparisons between Islam and Nazism made by Wilders". If convicted, he may be liable for up to 16 months of jail time or a fine of €9866.67. His lawyer, Bram Moszkowicz, plans to take the case to the Supreme Court of the Netherlands."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

So, Wilders hasn't been ousted yet. Instead, people keep trying to prosecute him for hate speech. So I was wrong, but not far from the mark.

As for legislation and litigation limiting or hindering the criticism of Islam (a reference to the current case against Wilders)....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7842344.stm

The article below addresses the circumstances around the deaths of Fortuyn and Theo Van Gogh.

http://www.city-journal.org/2009/eon0122bb.html

An example of the U.N. limiting criticism against religion (more specifically Islam).

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/co … 17789.html

Last edited by Turquoise (2009-05-28 14:10:05)

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