BF2S Forums NK Conducts Nuclear Test

The scenario we're talking about is not the initial nuclear attack, but a response to a NK launch against an enemy (in this case America).

I have to doubt that NK does not at present have the capability to launch a S2A missile which would hit the US anyway, but that isn't the point.

If you want a quick and decisive counter attack that at the same time does not threaten your allies/enemies around the globe, you send in a bomber which drops a nuclear payload.

The flight paths of nuclear weapons can be tracked easily enough. Even those launched from the sea. A single bomber from a US airbase in South East Asia would be more than sufficient to wipe out NK in its entirety.

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

lots of unnecessary "..." sentence breaks and other non-sensical bullshit that really doesn't even apply to what I said

Like I said.

FatherTed wrote:

or they could just launch from sea?lol

I was gonna say that, lol. Wouldn't be that hard to get a ship into the Sea of Japan and then launch one from there.

The simple fact is that NK doesn't have the balls to nuke anyone, and even if they did, their nukes aren't even powerful enough to do that much damage. Watch them launch a nuke and it be a dud.

I don't think countries (US, Japan, South Korea, whoever) would respond with more nukes, though.

Besides ICBMs, there are also bombers and subs available to the US.

AussieReaper wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

And or China.

I'm sure both China and Russia would love US nukes flying above them... lolno

You can shoot over Pacific Ocean no?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … _Korea.svg

why would they shoot over russia and china? lol

edit: besides, USA has this many military installations in South Korea. I bet they have nuclear strike capabilities there too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Un … outh_Korea

Because the Earth rotates it is easier to shoot towards one of the the poles and then at your target rather than going over a large area like the pacific ocean.

I don't know if this would apply to ICBMS, but NASA tries to launch it's rockets east (as close as they can get to the equator) in order to get a gravitational boost from the earth. That is why they use KSC. They want to launch over the open ocean. It's not a big boost, but every little bit counts.

Harmor wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

I guess they don't know BO very well... He already responded... by being.... very upset... no invasion guys... just a stern warning to stop doing it...

You want an invasion of North Korea?

China doesn't want it because:

1) They don't want a Unified Korean Peninsula
2) They don't want all the immigrants (China built a wall on the border with North Korea btw...)

1) That was never going to happen since before the Korean war.

2) Hong Kong has always been a thorn in the side of China anyway tbh (and Tibet used to be...)

I'm just curious as to what Catbox wants Obama to do, since he is so bored with the "inaction" thus far.

Mugen wrote:

Boost is like 5% of orbit speed. Anyway in those dimensions that's huge and equates to smth like ~1000 mph.

Depends on location.

A launch from Cape Canaveral, Florida, doesn't get as big a boost from Earth's rotational speed. The Kennedy Space Center's Launch Complex 39-A, one of its launch facilities, is located at 28 degrees 36 minutes 29.7014 seconds north latitude. The Earth's rotational speed there is about 894 mph (1,440 kph). The difference in Earth's surface speed between the equator and Kennedy Space Center, then, is about 144 mph (229 kph). (Note: The Earth is actually oblate -- fatter around the middle -- not a perfect sphere. For that reason, our estimate of Earth's circumference is a little small.)

http://www.astronomywa.net.au/index.php … p;Itemid=8

http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/asia/24486 … ary-action

NK is no longer recognising the armistice.  I bet $10 on them lasting a month if shit breaks out.

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Spark wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Because the Earth rotates it is easier to shoot towards one of the the poles and then at your target rather than going over a large area like the pacific ocean.

I don't know if this would apply to ICBMS, but NASA tries to launch it's rockets east (as close as they can get to the equator) in order to get a gravitational boost from the earth. That is why they use KSC. They want to launch over the open ocean. It's not a big boost, but every little bit counts.

It would apply to any projectile/rocket launched from Earth... and it's more than a bit (I could work it out but I cbf. If anyone else wants to do it, v = d/t, x = 2pi*r, r = 6400km (roughly))

I know it would apply to anything leaving earth. How much it applies (strategically) was what I was getting at. I don't know if you missed the post after that but the location is a factor as well. The closer you are to the equator the greater the boost. Launching from the equator makes a real difference. The boost for NASA at KSC is aprx 144 mph.

Again, would this have a strategic impact? .. I don't know. I guess you would have to weigh that against all the other circumstances.

Spark wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Spark wrote:

It would apply to any projectile/rocket launched from Earth... and it's more than a bit (I could work it out but I cbf. If anyone else wants to do it, v = d/t, x = 2pi*r, r = 6400km (roughly))

I know it would apply to anything leaving earth. How much it applies (strategically) was what I was getting at. I don't know if you missed the post after that but the location is a factor as well. The closer you are to the equator the greater the boost. Launching from the equator makes a real difference. The boost for NASA at KSC is aprx 144 mph.

Again, would this have a strategic impact? .. I don't know. I guess you would have to weigh that against all the other circumstances.

Oh yeah, of course - assuming equatorial launch, that is. If you're at the pole, it's pretty obvious what the net gain is - zero.

That's why all the space launch centres are in Florida... I'm pretty sure that's the main reason anyway. Weather, maybe also a factor?

Whether it has any strategic impact matters as much on luck as anything, since I can't see it shortening (or lengthening) flight time by more than a minute.

They launch with the rotation, east. In the event of an accident (and srb retrieval) they want their launches over open water. Combine that with the near equatorial boost and you get a south eastern preference. There are also financial reason that make KSC appealing.

this is kinda serious

China is going to tug the leash.

Kmarion wrote:

China is going to tug the leash.

And whack the nose with a rolled up paper.