BF2S Forums Obama: "We're out of money."

Lai wrote:

I can't believe you Americans bought that crap in the first place. You should have voted McCain,..

He'd be dealing with these problems in the exact same way.

So far nothing of substance has really be implemented by Obama that is vastly different to what McCain said he would do during the run for office.

AussieReaper wrote:

Lai wrote:

I can't believe you Americans bought that crap in the first place. You should have voted McCain,..

He'd be dealing with these problems in the exact same way.

Probably, but he wouldn't have been lying about it.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Obama and McCain had two choices:

Change renamed fail

More (but honest) fail

Well it would be but the only things Obama is doing differently is spending money faster and being more PR friendly about it.

Flecco wrote:

Well it would be but the only things Obama is doing differently is spending money faster and being more PR friendly about it.

thats like someone ass raping you while smiling

Flecco wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Well it would be but the only things Obama is doing differently is spending money faster and being more PR friendly about it.

thats like someone ass raping you while smiling

Pretty much.

A bit like when <insert random President from the last century here> was President. Every President does bad shit behind closed doors. The major difference I've seen between the two political parties in the USA is that the Republicans aren't PR friendly.

not sure how you can say that about the dems.  they have failed big time so far.  what PR are you speaking of?

Flecco wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Pretty much.

A bit like when <insert random President from the last century here> was President. Every President does bad shit behind closed doors. The major difference I've seen between the two political parties in the USA is that the Republicans aren't PR friendly.

not sure how you can say that about the dems.  they have failed big time so far.  what PR are you speaking of?

He got elected.

Largely had the media wrapped around his little finger for quite a long time.

The rest of the world sees him as easier to deal with than the alternatives at the last election.

His script writers are great.

His books sold reasonably well.

The pro-Democrat/Obama docos made about him came across as unbiased and factual when a few of them were aired here.

He hasn't invaded anybody yet (always a plus for PR).




The longer he stays in office the worse it will get, as his decisions have real implications for the USA he's gonna piss somebody off. He's still pretty high in the opinion polls last I checked though.

media has always sucked dems...nothing new.

bill o sells more books

those were media suck fests

he is adding more troops to afghan



i duuno, i dont see it.

Flecco wrote:

It's like my thing with McDonalds/KFC etc, no matter how much they scrub up their public image I'm still gonna see the adds/PR as stupid and pointless.

i dont get that.  what do you want them to say?

Flecco wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

It's like my thing with McDonalds/KFC etc, no matter how much they scrub up their public image I'm still gonna see the adds/PR as stupid and pointless.

i dont get that.  what do you want them to say?

McDonalds keeps trying to sell itself as healthy when its core product is still pretty bad for the human body. The pickles taste like shit too.[sub] That's my main problem with the place. I hate the taste of the pickles and the hamburger-buns.[/spoiler]


KFC here in Aus has the most annoying adds ever. Trust me on this.

you can get salads and milk if you want from mcd's.  they just offer the stuff.  it aint their fault.  i dont agree with your thinking on that.

Last edited by usmarine (2009-05-24 07:41:23)

Flecco wrote:

Their salads have more sugar in them than the burgers last I checked. Gl with that.

how can lettuce and carrots have more sugar than anywhere else?  now are you talking about dressings?

Flecco wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Their salads have more sugar in them than the burgers last I checked. Gl with that.

how can lettuce and carrots have more sugar than anywhere else?  now are you talking about dressings?

Yes.

I should point out now that the nearest McDonalds to my current location is approximately 350km away. Most of my life the nearest Maccas has been over 300km away. I didn't grow up with much fast food in my diet, especially the franchised American kind. I just dislike the stuff generally, avoid it as much as possible (other than subway really, don't go there much either though), and find the advertisements annoying.


And I hate the damn pickles!

ya but my point is i think its unfair because (non fast food) restaurants do not give out nutrition info.  so god knows what you are getting.  so to call it the worst cannot be considered correct imo.

Lai wrote:

I can't believe you Americans bought that crap in the first place. You should have voted McCain,..

Omg you cannot be serious.. McCain is retarded.. he cannot make the difference between Iran and Al Qaida.

With McCain the americans would be in the same economic problems and add a war or two against muslim nations..

obama did not create the mess they are in, 20 years of careless spending did..

Now they need a leader who can fix the problem, but Obama is not the one..  and mcCain would be even worst.

The only one who could have fix this mess is ................   (fill the blank)

I don't know what everyone is up in arms about... The drudge report has the interview

Short term problem is that money was thrown at financial system, auto companies, unemployment insruance, food stamps etc plus lower tax revenues in a recession.

Long term problem medicare and medicaid - its these programs that he's refering to as being out of money.

The difference between the GOP and PBO is that the GOP would use the recession as an excuse to axe medicare/medicaid/social security entirely... and PBO will print money to save them.

I say make the political parties cough up the IOU money that they took out of medicare/ medicaid/ social security to pay for their pet projects. Medicare and social security would be both solvent if Congress hadn't stolen the money out of these programs. The parties should be both bankrupted to pay this money back.


BTW could you imagine the problems we would be having if Bush 43's push to privatise social security had gone through and all that money would have been lost in the stock market collapse.... yesh, I guess that's one thing to be thankful for, it always could have been worse.

AutralianChainsaw wrote:

Lai wrote:

I can't believe you Americans bought that crap in the first place. You should have voted McCain,..

Omg you cannot be serious.. McCain is retarded.. he cannot make the difference between Iran and Al Qaida.

With McCain the americans would be in the same economic problems and add a war or two against muslim nations..

obama did not create the mess they are in, 20 years of careless spending did..

Now they need a leader who can fix the problem, but Obama is not the one..  and mcCain would be even worst.

The only one who could have fix this mess is ................   (fill the blank)

When both candidates are fail, I tend to go with the one that has some principles and is honest about his intentions. Obama did not create the current mess, but neither did McCain. The democrats PR decision wants you to believe McCain=Bush. Wow, they are both republicans indeed, Obama's PR might be right,.. NOT! IMO Bush really wasn't that bad either, he just had about the poorest staff in decades. I once saw an interview where he didn't had to play cowboy and could say something that did not have to appeal to people below a certain intellect, and I found him very sympathetic. I think in ten or twenty years people will reflect on George W. Bush, very differently from the way they let him go.

Obama will play cutey boy for another year or two, apologize to the world for the mess. Note that from a US perspective this is actually a bad thing, since quite a large part of the world doesn't give a fuck about the US playing humble and will just see an oportunity to walk over them. After those two years, people will realise Obama's personal contribution to restabilizing the world economy has been absolutely trivial and he will be flamed. Meanwhile Obama, pressed by a multitude of lobbies, will do something stupid. E.g. while the US is now living happily ever after with the Talibs in Islamabad, Obama will now attempt to take on China or Russia in skirmishes in the Ukraine or the Caucasus. Obama's overly ambitious climate programs (which is complete bull and Al's thing anyway) will have failed utterly and only lead to higher fuel taxes and bureaucracy. Not that it matters much. I think it is inevitable that the US will have to let go of the "number one western ace" position. Shared first or second place it will be, which personally I think is a good thing (again not from a US perspective though).

To fill in the blank, I think Mike Huckabee was the best candidate available, since he at least got endorsed by Chuck Norris.

Flecco wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Their salads have more sugar in them than the burgers last I checked. Gl with that.

how can lettuce and carrots have more sugar than anywhere else?  now are you talking about dressings?

Yes.

I should point out now that the nearest McDonalds to my current location is approximately 350km away. Most of my life the nearest Maccas has been over 300km away. I didn't grow up with much fast food in my diet, especially the franchised American kind. I just dislike the stuff generally, avoid it as much as possible (other than subway really, don't go there much either though), and find the advertisements annoying.


And I hate the damn pickles!

You should always ask for one without a pickle at MacDos in any case. That way you might actually have a chance that your burger will be warm, because they had to make it fresh (*chuckle), rather than take it of the antique shelve.