It is in terms of Economically damaging this country. Terrorist want to inflict the most damage they can in as many ways as possible.
I seem to think there was an article posted just the other day about some delightful Christian types who were effectively killing their own child by denying him chemo. You get idiots in all religions.lowing wrote:
You would also think that given the frequency of shit like this that people on here would actually acknowledge that there is a problem with peace loving Islam.[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
You would think that people would know better after beeing raised in such a fine society, this includes the terrorists aswell as coming up with the idea of posting it here for you to have a field day.
Amen to that....oh wait....
Don't know the story. Is it about not prologing the suffering or will god save him?ghettoperson wrote:
I seem to think there was an article posted just the other day about some delightful Christian types who were effectively killing their own child by denying him chemo. You get idiots in all religions.lowing wrote:
You would also think that given the frequency of shit like this that people on here would actually acknowledge that there is a problem with peace loving Islam.[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
You would think that people would know better after beeing raised in such a fine society, this includes the terrorists aswell as coming up with the idea of posting it here for you to have a field day.
God will save him.lowing wrote:
Don't know the story. Is it about not prologing the suffering or will god save him?ghettoperson wrote:
I seem to think there was an article posted just the other day about some delightful Christian types who were effectively killing their own child by denying him chemo. You get idiots in all religions.lowing wrote:
You would also think that given the frequency of shit like this that people on here would actually acknowledge that there is a problem with peace loving Islam.
If they are waiting for god, how about going for the chemo and let god interrupt if they were wrong? No?
As I recall it was God via some granola bars.Macbeth wrote:
God will save him.lowing wrote:
Don't know the story. Is it about not prologing the suffering or will god save him?ghettoperson wrote:
I seem to think there was an article posted just the other day about some delightful Christian types who were effectively killing their own child by denying him chemo. You get idiots in all religions.
Because they're idiots; according to them God doesn't work like that.[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
If they are waiting for god, how about going for the chemo and let god interrupt if they were wrong? No?
Who are we/they to know how God does/would do his/her/its deeds of pureness? Why risc it at all....religion....
Stinger Missiles are programmed not to arm against friendlies, so that part wouldn't have worked.
Theese men where raised christians or muslims?
Yeah I did think that the IFF should stop them. I have no idea if it's possible to bypass it or not. Still, doesn't sound like these guys would have the faintest idea how anyway. I did read that the FBI said the weapons systems didn't work, but I assume that means they're limited by more than just the IFF.nickb64 wrote:
Stinger Missiles are programmed not to arm against friendlies, so that part wouldn't have worked.
[F7F7]KiNG_KaDaFFHi wrote:
Theese men where raised christians or muslims?
Christian.article wrote:
They were named as James Cromitie (also known as Abdul Rahman), David Williams (aka Daoud and DL), Onta Williams (aka Hamza) and Laguerre Payen (aka Amin and Almondo).
Something interesting somebody brought up today.
Since these men are home grown and converted to Islam, in prison if IIRC, then if Gitmo is closed and all of those radical Muslims come here and are in prison what is going to stop them from converting and recruiting more people in prison who are already here with full citizenship and have the protection of it?
Since these men are home grown and converted to Islam, in prison if IIRC, then if Gitmo is closed and all of those radical Muslims come here and are in prison what is going to stop them from converting and recruiting more people in prison who are already here with full citizenship and have the protection of it?
Soo they have been through two religions by now....one should be enough to make anyone go insane regardless the kind of religion, or soo it seems.
That's how Elijah Muhammad got people interested in the Nation of Islam.Macbeth wrote:
Something interesting somebody brought up today.
Since these men are home grown and converted to Islam, in prison if IIRC, then if Gitmo is closed and all of those radical Muslims come here and are in prison what is going to stop them from converting and recruiting more people in prison who are already here with full citizenship and have the protection of it?
So you say domestic security is crap...by posting in a thread about domestic security foiling a terrorist attack.Turquoise wrote:
No amount of foreign warring will make you safe if your domestic security is crap.DBBrinson1 wrote:
And he'd be just as wrong as you are. First, homegrown is different than a nation thousands of miles away. Also, they were about in the stone age to begin with, so that wouldn't take much.JahManRed wrote:
Ahh, so good police work and surveillance is actually better than bombing a nation thousands of miles away into the stone age.
My 4 year old could have worked that one out tbh.
That being said, we have quite a border issue, don't we?....
A bit of cognitive dissonance, don't you think?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
The prison(s) those knuckleheads would go to (supermax) don't generally release prisoners.Macbeth wrote:
Something interesting somebody brought up today.
Since these men are home grown and converted to Islam, in prison if IIRC, then if Gitmo is closed and all of those radical Muslims come here and are in prison what is going to stop them from converting and recruiting more people in prison who are already here with full citizenship and have the protection of it?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
I think he was talking about your leaky border.FEOS wrote:
So you say domestic security is crap...by posting in a thread about domestic security foiling a terrorist attack.Turquoise wrote:
No amount of foreign warring will make you safe if your domestic security is crap.DBBrinson1 wrote:
And he'd be just as wrong as you are. First, homegrown is different than a nation thousands of miles away. Also, they were about in the stone age to begin with, so that wouldn't take much.
That being said, we have quite a border issue, don't we?....
A bit of cognitive dissonance, don't you think?
Obamas homeboys
That's actually an issue Obama is now dealing with (or about to have to, anyway).Macbeth wrote:
Something interesting somebody brought up today.
Since these men are home grown and converted to Islam, in prison if IIRC, then if Gitmo is closed and all of those radical Muslims come here and are in prison what is going to stop them from converting and recruiting more people in prison who are already here with full citizenship and have the protection of it?
You don't want cells to start forming in jail cells(...).
sardonic?AussieReaper wrote:
That's actually an issue Obama is now dealing with (or about to have to, anyway).Macbeth wrote:
Something interesting somebody brought up today.
Since these men are home grown and converted to Islam, in prison if IIRC, then if Gitmo is closed and all of those radical Muslims come here and are in prison what is going to stop them from converting and recruiting more people in prison who are already here with full citizenship and have the protection of it?
You don't want cells to start forming in jail cells(...).
HAMAS couldn't figure it out to down Israeli Apaches, so I doubt those guys could ever figure it out.ghettoperson wrote:
Yeah I did think that the IFF should stop them. I have no idea if it's possible to bypass it or not. Still, doesn't sound like these guys would have the faintest idea how anyway. I did read that the FBI said the weapons systems didn't work, but I assume that means they're limited by more than just the IFF.nickb64 wrote:
Stinger Missiles are programmed not to arm against friendlies, so that part wouldn't have worked.
And why would an IR missile have an IFF interrogator? Particularly an IR missile from the 80s?nickb64 wrote:
HAMAS couldn't figure it out to down Israeli Apaches, so I doubt those guys could ever figure it out.ghettoperson wrote:
Yeah I did think that the IFF should stop them. I have no idea if it's possible to bypass it or not. Still, doesn't sound like these guys would have the faintest idea how anyway. I did read that the FBI said the weapons systems didn't work, but I assume that means they're limited by more than just the IFF.nickb64 wrote:
Stinger Missiles are programmed not to arm against friendlies, so that part wouldn't have worked.
I'd like to see the source for the "not arming against friendlies" thing. Not because I don't believe it...just don't see how one could put a Mode 4 IFF interrogator (with associated crypto) on such a small missile. Then there's the problem of keeping the crypto up to date so Mode 4 could still be interrogated...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Huh? Unless I'm understanding you completely wrong, Stingers are pretty well known for having IFF.FEOS wrote:
And why would an IR missile have an IFF interrogator? Particularly an IR missile from the 80s?nickb64 wrote:
HAMAS couldn't figure it out to down Israeli Apaches, so I doubt those guys could ever figure it out.ghettoperson wrote:
Yeah I did think that the IFF should stop them. I have no idea if it's possible to bypass it or not. Still, doesn't sound like these guys would have the faintest idea how anyway. I did read that the FBI said the weapons systems didn't work, but I assume that means they're limited by more than just the IFF.
I'd like to see the source for the "not arming against friendlies" thing. Not because I don't believe it...just don't see how one could put a Mode 4 IFF interrogator (with associated crypto) on such a small missile. Then there's the problem of keeping the crypto up to date so Mode 4 could still be interrogated...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ … 18/Ch2.htm