Then tell your favorite server to turn it on. You do realize it's a server option don't you?chitlin wrote:
its really simple return the friendly fire
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I'm pretty sure Citizen One made it very clear that AT rockets destroy mines. And don't give me that "That's helpful to me as assault" crap. There's bound to be an AT guy's kit lying around or an AT guy you can kill and take a kit from, there always is. And if there isn't, then find another way around, or have a medic nearby and have him revive you. Also the argument that "Then the medic dies..." is bullcrap too. You know damn well that if he dies, you can swap your kit for his and revive him.-fe.lep- wrote:
It cant be countered without an unfair penalty on the players stats involved, try reading my posts, Im very specific..................
And I quote "BF2 - Complain: Need to bitch and moan? We feel ya"Im very aware of what forum this is. I emailed E.A. to complain, I put this post in this forum for general debate and CHATTER
Uh-huh. So how do you explain what this thread is? Sounds quite like a complaint. If you don't need to complain here, then we don't need to hear it.I dont need to complain on www.bf2s.com about a purchase I made from E.A. and DICE.
No, this belongs where the admins/mods decide to put it. Just because I have the freedom to choose to spam every section of the forum with crap doesn't mean that any of that belongs there. You might want to have that superiority complex checked on.This belongs where I damn well put it. Its called freedom of speech and choice. I wanted it here so its here. You dont get to pick.
Spurring debate? Is that what starting flame wars is called now?If you want to take that option if you are unhappy, fine, just you work away, I will however continue with my course of action which is to post here and spur debate. Really.
no that means he has died 65 times while holding the claymore!!!!!!!!Citizen One wrote:
-fe.lep- over-exaggerated the fact that he gets pwnt by clays. Which is funny because it says he has only died 65 times from a claymore.
his favourite weapon is the GRENADE LAUNCHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i have never seen that before!
what a noob!
Its you who's attempting to start a flame war my friend, Something I have little or no interest in with regards to this topic. I want to see how many other people who have EXPERIENCE of this subject feel and what they have something to say on it. Not the location or content of my comments.[Ahazi] Kaika wrote:
Spurring debate? Is that what starting flame wars is called now?
Last edited by -fe.lep- (2006-03-30 05:20:01)
Hate to say it, but you have facts wrong there. He has died 65 times while HOLDING claymores, not FROM claymores. Which means he is a hypocrite because you have to have a claymore out a lot to be killed 65 times with it as your active weapon. I always place some in Karkand to cover myself at the start of a round, when I snipe, and as you can see in my stats I've only been killed 3 times with it out. I use them as they were meant to be used, as defensive protection against people wanting to knife my ass. To have been killed 65 times with claymores out means -fe.lep- must use them offensively. A good tactic, but you don't do that and then bitch about claymores being overpowered.Citizen One wrote:
-fe.lep- over-exaggerated the fact that he gets pwnt by clays. Which is funny because it says he has only died 65 times from a claymore.
Well lets see now you have been killed 65 times while holding a claymore. In my EXPERIENCE that means you must use them a lot, unless you typically run around the map holding claymores.-fe.lep- wrote:
Its you who's attempting to start a flame war my friend, Something I have little or no interest in with regards to this topic. I want to see how many other people who have EXPERIENCE of this subject feel and what they have something to say on it. Not the location or content of my comments.[Ahazi] Kaika wrote:
Spurring debate? Is that what starting flame wars is called now?
And no I am not attempting to start a flame war. I am flaming I suppose, but regardless, what did you expect when you post something like this? There's nothing to debate about on this subject. Regarding planes vs AA, or different types of guns and strategies on using them, yes there can be debate. But not on using claymores man.
1 I didn't say i was owned by claymores. Please read all posts involved. I said claymores required attention immediately from E.A. as they are making several maps unplayable.[Ahazi] Kaika wrote:
Hate to say it, but you have facts wrong there. He has died 65 times while HOLDING claymores, not FROM claymores. Which means he is a hypocrite because you have to have a claymore out a lot to be killed 65 times with it as your active weapon. I always place some in Karkand to cover myself at the start of a round, when I snipe, and as you can see in my stats I've only been killed 3 times with it out. I use them as they were meant to be used, as defensive protection against people wanting to knife my ass. To have been killed 65 times with claymores out means -fe.lep- must use them offensively. A good tactic, but you don't do that and then bitch about claymores being overpowered.Citizen One wrote:
-fe.lep- over-exaggerated the fact that he gets pwnt by clays. Which is funny because it says he has only died 65 times from a claymore.
2 I have over 600 hours played, your damn right I have used the claymore's, AGAIN at no point did I say I didn't which is what would qualify me as a hypocrite.
3 My post that they are being used as a PRIMARY weapon Is whats up for debate here and their massive impact on general game play especially in the post 1.22 patch era...........
Do try to keep up.
Last edited by -fe.lep- (2006-03-30 05:29:07)
It's whining brats like u that ruin this game. Blah blah blah i got pwned by a claymore lets bitch to EA and get them taken out, now snipers get screwed because they don't have anything covering their ass. Whats next? are u gonna get owned by a tank tonight then bitch to EA to have the cannon taken off?-fe.lep- wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks that claymores are destroying BF2 and Special Forces in particular?
How about E.A. finally fix a "weapon" that really needs fixing. Special forces suffers the most from this plague, try playing warlord/nightflight and you will see what I mean. Its just got beyond a joke.
Claymores should be limited to usage within 3 meters of the top of ladders and nothing more. Im fed up of snipers "padding" their scores with these cheap, skilless kills. Damit E.A. Do something useful for once!
Ok so I was wrong, jesus stfu jackass no one likes you anymore.
Now if that isn't a flame, then I don't know what is. At any rate, having experience as a sniper on Karkand I know that claymores do not make a significant difference on gameplay. There are always several routes to flags, they can't all be covered by claymores, and if they are, well go play on another map.-fe.lep- wrote:
1 I didn't say i was owned by claymores. Please read all posts involved. I said claymores required attention immediately from E.A. as they are making several maps unplayable.[Ahazi] Kaika wrote:
Hate to say it, but you have facts wrong there. He has died 65 times while HOLDING claymores, not FROM claymores. Which means he is a hypocrite because you have to have a claymore out a lot to be killed 65 times with it as your active weapon. I always place some in Karkand to cover myself at the start of a round, when I snipe, and as you can see in my stats I've only been killed 3 times with it out. I use them as they were meant to be used, as defensive protection against people wanting to knife my ass. To have been killed 65 times with claymores out means -fe.lep- must use them offensively. A good tactic, but you don't do that and then bitch about claymores being overpowered.Citizen One wrote:
-fe.lep- over-exaggerated the fact that he gets pwnt by clays. Which is funny because it says he has only died 65 times from a claymore.
2 I have over 600 hours played, your damn right I have used the claymore's, AGAIN at no point did I say I didn't which is what would qualify me as a hypocrite.
3 My post that they are being used as a PRIMARY weapon Is whats up for debate here and their massive impact on general game play especially in the post 1.22 patch era...........
Do try to keep up.
#1: I never said you were owned by claymores. That was Citizen One, who was corrected twice. Do try to keep up.
#2: You don't have to SAY that you never used claymores to be a hypocrite about using them. By virtue of you having used them frequently, while at the same time whining about them being overpowered, you are a hypocrite. Let's compare here:
[Ahazi]Kaika87: 197:20:48 played, claymore stats :00:10:02 k:8 d:3 kdr:2.67
-fe.lip-: 603:52:28 played, claymore stats :01:18:46 k:191 d:65 kdr:2.94
Do the kills/deaths seem proportionate to the time played? I didn't think so. Your argument about time played is null.
#3: Again, you're not trying to have a debate. Look at the title of the damn thread. If you wanted debate you should have posted it called something like "Is the claymore too overpowered post 1.22?" and started your post with "What is your opinion on the use of the claymore mine in the post 1.22 patch era?" and finished your post with "please post your opinions here"
Last edited by [Ahazi] Kaika (2006-03-30 05:44:23)
Its people like you who really make my day. Im actually really glad you posted, It gave me something to laugh at in whats been a rather dull day.Am I the only one who thinks that claymores are destroying BF2 and Special Forces in particular?
How about E.A. finally fix a "weapon" that really needs fixing. Special forces suffers the most from this plague, try playing warlord/nightflight and you will see what I mean. Its just got beyond a joke.
Claymores should be limited to usage within 3 meters of the top of ladders and nothing more. Im fed up of snipers "padding" their scores with these cheap, skilless kills. Damit E.A. Do something useful for once!
It's whining brats like u that ruin this game. Blah blah blah i got pwned by a claymore lets bitch to EA and get them taken out, now snipers get screwed because they don't have anything covering their ass. Whats next? are u gonna get owned by a tank tonight then bitch to EA to have the cannon taken off?
If you read my posts, Which you so obviously didn't, you would see that I want the claymores to be able to be placed only at the top of ladders/objects to snipe from OR to make them so that they can be destroyed, Hell you even posted a bit of it RIGHT HERE in this post. Yet out of all the information I have given you in a total of 30 odd posts you manage to reply thus.
may I just paste a little of a post ON THIS THREAD FROM ME"Blah blah blah i got pwned by a claymore lets bitch to EA and get them taken out, now snipers get screwed because they don't have anything covering their ass."
See where your going wrong there?Claymores are destroying the entire game, I described it as a plague as that is exactly what they have become. 1.22 has seen a huge number of people migrate to the sniper class for these cheap and easy kills. They are not meant to be used as a primary weapon which 90% of people are now doing. They are meant to be used to cover a snipers ass.
lol, Cheers mate
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try playing engineer and disarming them while your buddys work at killing the snipers.
The flame war will be removed shortly.
No i see whats going on, your tired of being killed by clays so u want them nerfed. Ive never heard anyone else bitchin about them just u. It sounds like u want to also limit the places snipers can sit. which is prolly the places u don't go. i play sniper sometimes and if i want to place a clay in an alley to cover my ass i can. i don't want to be limited to ladders, i mean c'mon.
Im glad i posted on here too, it's still early and i needed to hear something stupid to wake up.
Im glad i posted on here too, it's still early and i needed to hear something stupid to wake up.
Stat padding with claymores !! Well that is a first. Look at any dedicated sniper, you will see clearly that claymores are NOT the way to go. Look at the top snipers, [GDC]SinnFein (26 621 kills 1171 with clays), or Books_DCDF (34 479 kills 904 with clays). Are they stat padding with clays?
Since we have to spend a lot of time scoped it is nice to cover our back a bit.
You look more like a support stat padder with your 2,517 support points. You must trow arround amo all the time.
Since we have to spend a lot of time scoped it is nice to cover our back a bit.
You look more like a support stat padder with your 2,517 support points. You must trow arround amo all the time.
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No, he probably just sits in a helicopter and amo farms with he's friends.mporlier wrote:
Stat padding with claymores !! Well that is a first. Look at any dedicated sniper, you will see clearly that claymores are NOT the way to go. Look at the top snipers, [GDC]SinnFein (26 621 kills 1171 with clays), or Books_DCDF (34 479 kills 904 with clays). Are they stat padding with clays?
Since we have to spend a lot of time scoped it is nice to cover our back a bit.
You look more like a support stat padder with your 2,517 support points. You must through arround amo all the time.
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SHhhhhh!! nobody knows this, I am racking up sniper kills this way with the engy! Shhhh!!KnowMeByTrailOfDead wrote:
try playing engineer and disarming them while your buddys work at killing the snipers.
Move along soldiers..nothing to see here..move along..
i actually think ur right! i have 121 hours with support and have only 1100 ammo points - and i threw down ammo bags everywhere! he has played 32 hours less as support but has over double the amount of ammo points???!!!!Citizen One wrote:
No, he probably just sits in a helicopter and amo farms with he's friends.mporlier wrote:
Stat padding with claymores !! Well that is a first. Look at any dedicated sniper, you will see clearly that claymores are NOT the way to go. Look at the top snipers, [GDC]SinnFein (26 621 kills 1171 with clays), or Books_DCDF (34 479 kills 904 with clays). Are they stat padding with clays?
Since we have to spend a lot of time scoped it is nice to cover our back a bit.
You look more like a support stat padder with your 2,517 support points. You must through arround amo all the time.
in fact i just worked out that he gets over 28 ammo points per hour, every hour!????????!! must be statpadding
his win/loss ratio is awful too!
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Telling you to go f**k yourself is a flame, That's a simple clarification of points.Now if that isn't a flame, then I don't know what is.
I mentioned MULTIPLE MAPS not just karkand, and playing as a sniper on Kark means that they would have little impact on you as YOU SHOULD be up high sniping. Im speaking from general impact on gameplay from every classes pespective.At any rate, having experience as a sniper on Karkand I know that claymores do not make a significant difference on gameplay.
I specifically mentioned the first MEC flag in a post as an example to which there are TWO entry routes, up the stairs or up the ladder. ONE sniper can cover both these points with claymores, if he has supplies for the entire map, NEVER MIND the hoard of snipers you now find in every game.There are always several routes to flags, they can't all be covered by claymores, and if they are, well go play on another map.
I just answered both posts using your post, I assumed you could decide who I was addressing.#1: I never said you were owned by claymores. That was Citizen One, who was corrected twice. Do try to keep up.
Are you seriously suggesting you can use stats to make this point? I have used the claymores as they are ment to be used, My post is SPECIFICALLY aimed at claymore whores, 1:18 out of 600 hours played, Especially as I play special forces a fair bit does not make me a whore, It means I used them more than u as defence. My post is about people with 100's and 100's of claymore kills that use them as a primary weapon and the knockon effect that it now has with so many people doing the same thing.#2: You don't have to SAY that you never used claymores to be a hypocrite about using them. By virtue of you having used them frequently, while at the same time whining about them being overpowered, you are a hypocrite. Let's compare here:
[Ahazi]Kaika87: 197:20:48 played, claymore stats :00:10:02 k:8 d:3 kdr:2.67
-fe.lip-: 603:52:28 played, claymore stats :01:18:46 k:191 d:65 kdr:2.94
It was the topic that sprang to mind at the time, Im sorry if you dont like it (quite frankly I dont care if you did or didn't) but its how it was started. I then qualified my position with a number of followup posts. Thus making my position easy to understand if all the posts are read in order. END OF.#3: Again, you're not trying to have a debate. Look at the title of the damn thread. If you wanted debate you should have posted it called something like "Is the claymore too overpowered post 1.22?" and started your post with "What is your opinion on the use of the claymore mine in the post 1.22 patch era?" and finished your post with "please post your opinions here"
This is not a flame war and I doubt if it will be removed as such, you quite simply, as a sniper, want this post removed as it brings up a very valid point.Citizen One wrote:
The flame war will be removed shortly.
The claymore needs to be adjusted. Should that take the form of positioning only being allowed in certain areas or the ability to diffuse them, I dont really mind, thats up to E.A. But it will happen.
Last edited by -fe.lep- (2006-03-30 06:22:24)
shush...you said your point..anyway, The clays are everywhere and the hardest part about it is the engineer can't disable them when they are high on a ladder, I think they should make the wrench have longer radius to take out clays or have the engy on a ladder and take out his wrench, but both hands on ladder for safety.
NO...the claymore needs no adjusting! no-one agrees with you ok so shut up now - statpadder-fe.lep- wrote:
This is not a flame war and I doubt if it will be removed as such, you quite simply, as a sniper, want this post removed as it brings up a very valid point.Citizen One wrote:
The flame war will be removed shortly.
The claymore needs to be adjusted.
Dude. If you can't go through it, go around. Isn't that the point of combat, either real or simulated? being able to think on your feet and adapt and overcome? Stairs clayed? Zip in from a neighboring roof. Kit has no zipline? Grapple up to the ledge. No grapple? work with your team, have someone else throw one, and climb up it. Most people don't even look that way, and you'll have a few easy kills.
The clay is a defensive weapon. 99% of the time i see them either defending flags, or approaches to flags (karkand), where you know someone will go. It kills them and incurrs ticket loss, which wins the game. The question is, why do you run headlong into somewhere you know is going to be clayed. Come up with another (the long) way around.
My .02
The clay is a defensive weapon. 99% of the time i see them either defending flags, or approaches to flags (karkand), where you know someone will go. It kills them and incurrs ticket loss, which wins the game. The question is, why do you run headlong into somewhere you know is going to be clayed. Come up with another (the long) way around.
My .02
See my posts about the special forces maps on the first page, Its not an option, Then take it in the context of EA nerfing c4, grenade launcher and PKM due to the impact they have on other peoples gameplay and u will see my point. They need changed a hell of a lot more than the Grenade launcher or PKM ever did.Thumper04 wrote:
Come up with another (the long) way around.
My .02
Thats just one of the examples given.For example: Warlord
Palace 2nd and 3rd floor on Warlord have become, just about, uncapable bases. If you corner a team with just those flags left with just 3 doorways that lead in or out you have half a dozen snipers and half a dozen support making themselves 100's of undeserved points. The same goes for the T.V. station which is worse, there are only 2 ways in or out. This is obviously effecting the stats of all the players involved and is tantamount to stats padding. You can no longer play to win the game as it involves dying dozens of times on mines that cannot be removed and are not being used in the manor for which they were intended.
Cheers
Last edited by -fe.lep- (2006-03-30 06:38:04)
fe.lep it seems the only post u have not responded too is my post about ur ammo bag statpadding......
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