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Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

ATG wrote:

They knew and they didn't care because they have useful idiots in the public who will say it is okay.

When A guy is spread eagle face down on the ground, why did they have to let the dog in to have a bite?

I absolutely love this.

This guy should consider himself lucky that a smack to the head was all he got since he deserved way more. He is as lucky as the people he didn't give a shit about as he recklessly engaged in a high speed escape attempt.

I am disheartened you feel anger and not support toward the police charged with stopping people like this and sympathy for this animal being treated like an animal. In fact I think animals deserve better treatment than this piece of shit. 


My only regret is that he did not die slowly in his little car accident and save all of us tax payers the trouble of "due process". Oh well, the honest law abiding citizen can't win them all I suppose.

I do notice not a word spoken about the potential victims of this jerk-offs actions and the fact that he no longer poses a threat. Your only concern is about the criminals well being and his comfort.

Ah yes, the classic lowing argument: we should treat criminals as they treat us.

Er no, cos we ain't criminals, are we?

Ah yes the classic Spark argument, treat criminals as if they are not really responsible for their actions. It is not their failure, it is OUR failure.

The classic lowing argument is to punish criminals. I know it sounds terrible.

Also please keep in mind I did not say society should kill him, I am saying it is unfortunate that he did not wind up killing himself during his little escape attempt.

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

I absolutely love this.

This guy should consider himself lucky that a smack to the head was all he got since he deserved way more. He is as lucky as the people he didn't give a shit about as he recklessly engaged in a high speed escape attempt.

I am disheartened you feel anger and not support toward the police charged with stopping people like this and sympathy for this animal being treated like an animal. In fact I think animals deserve better treatment than this piece of shit. 


My only regret is that he did not die slowly in his little car accident and save all of us tax payers the trouble of "due process". Oh well, the honest law abiding citizen can't win them all I suppose.

I do notice not a word spoken about the potential victims of this jerk-offs actions and the fact that he no longer poses a threat. Your only concern is about the criminals well being and his comfort.

Ah yes, the classic lowing argument: we should treat criminals as they treat us.

Er no, cos we ain't criminals, are we?

Ah yes the classic Spark argument, treat criminals as if they are not really responsible for their actions. It is not their failure, it is OUR failure.

The classic lowing argument is to punish criminals. I know it sounds terrible.

Do you just find it convenient to forget that these people actually do still get punished if convicted, even without being exposed to police brutality, or do you honestly believe that being kicked in the face qualifies as appropriate punishment, while imprisonment is a minor detail?

lowing wrote:

Nope, I believe getting kicked in the face is only a fraction of what a piece of shit like this deserves after endangering innocent people the way he did.

It shouldn't be up to the police to judge and punish criminals. The only jurisdiction they have any power in is the detainment and capture of the criminal.

Ilocano wrote:

Spark wrote:

Ah yes, the classic lowing argument: we should treat criminals as they treat us.

Er no, cos we ain't criminals, are we?

Ummm, yeah, if only it were so.  Murderers should be executed.  Drug dealers should be overdosed.  Rapists should be raped.  Molesters molested.  Thieves should have their properties and possessions siezed.  Assault perpetrators beaten down.  False slanders should be publicly humiliated.  Hedge fund crooks should have all their assets siezed.  Yes, I'm a proponent of eye for an eye.

GREAT GJ
What happens when it is found later that, for example, the pathologist made an error or errors and got the wrong person convicted? Are you going to sanctimoniously going to point your finger at the pathologist and say IT IS HIS FAULT? Wonder what you would say if you were falsely convicted of raping and murdering your daughter? Do I get to use KY before the needle?

I have read most of the posts here and have come to realize that most of you DON'T FUCKING GET IT.
It is not the job of police to punish people. EVER.
Why have courts if the police can decided punishment? Hell why have police, just give everyone a gun and tell everyone they are on their own.
Why? because that is anarchy. There are several hell hole countries on this planet to visit if you want to see anarchy is action.  Survival of the fittest or most sadistic etc. Not exactly the places you want to raise a family.


The guy had surrendered and is prone. The kick, the flashlight and the dog were blatantly unnecessary to the apprehension of the suspect.

lowing wrote:

mikkel wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ah yes the classic Spark argument, treat criminals as if they are not really responsible for their actions. It is not their failure, it is OUR failure.

The classic lowing argument is to punish criminals. I know it sounds terrible.

Do you just find it convenient to forget that these people actually do still get punished if convicted, even without being exposed to police brutality, or do you honestly believe that being kicked in the face qualifies as appropriate punishment, while imprisonment is a minor detail?

Nope, I believe getting kicked in the face is only a fraction of what a piece of shit like this deserves after endangering innocent people the way he did.

I bet you loved Judge Dredd.

Personally I think they probably shouldn't have kick him etc... but it could have been alot worse, and i'm sure the "suspect" has bigger problems than a headache from a constables size 10

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Personally I think they probably shouldn't have kick him etc... but it could have been alot worse, and i'm sure the "suspect" has bigger problems than a headache from a constables size 10

The point is, it is a non-issue. Why do you care if this idiot gets kicked in the head or not? I can promise you a cop will never whip my ass because I have no intention on forcing an ass whipping upon myself like running from the cops at 90 mph down a one way street going the wrong way and smashing into another car ( hit and run by the way) anyone of you think to ask if the other person was ok before you criminalize the cops for kicking this guy? Or is your only concern this guys well being and how we all failed him?

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Personally I think they probably shouldn't have kick him etc... but it could have been alot worse, and i'm sure the "suspect" has bigger problems than a headache from a constables size 10

The point is, it is a non-issue. Why do you care if this idiot gets kicked in the head or not? I can promise you a cop will never whip my ass because I have no intention on forcing an ass whipping upon myself like running from the cops at 90 mph down a one way street going the wrong way and smashing into another car ( hit and run by the way) anyone of you think to ask if the other person was ok before you criminalize the cops for kicking this guy? Or is your only concern this guys well being and how we all failed him?

All i said is that the kick was unnecessary.... I also said that it was basically inconsequential. But i'll humour you anyway.

1) I don't care if he gets kicked in the head or not, I was just saying that the cop didn't need to kick him, they probably just wanted to.
2) I'm not trying to criminalize the cops in any way, they do a high stress job and most of the time they get it right, their only human.
3) I don't even know where you got this part from.

I was speaking to the masses.

Man With No Name wrote:

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El Monte Flores was a rival gang in my younger, dumber days.  Used to call them "Egg McmuFfings" or "ElMerFudds"

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Man With No Name wrote:

and?

newsflash lowing.  if I was addressing you, I would have quoted you.  the forum doesnt revolve around you.

Yer right, but since you obviously addressed the forum, which I am a part of, I figured I would satisfy my curiosity and find out why you are posting the picture of the freak show. I only assumed it pertained to the discussion at hand.


I can only assume the cops were afforded plenty of opportunity to kick the ever livin' shit outta him as well.

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lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

and?

newsflash lowing.  if I was addressing you, I would have quoted you.  the forum doesnt revolve around you.

Yer right, but since you obviously addressed the forum, which I am a part of, I figured I would satisfy my curiosity and find out why you are posting the picture of the freak show. I only assumed it pertained to the discussion at hand.


I can only assume the cops were afforded plenty of opportunity to kick the ever livin' shit outta him as well.

perhaps if you were to have read all the posts in this thread you would find your answer before you asked it? maybe? perhaps?

ghettoperson wrote:

Every time I read one of Lowing's posts he always amazes me with his views of the world. It's like he's a troll whose only purpose is to argue the exact opposite of what's rational.

Ya mean arguing against views such as yours where you think a person who moves from a high tax county or state is doing nothing but being a tax cheat? 

actually the only thing that is irrational here is the views you all have, after watching a high speed chase, down the wrong way of a one way street endangering the police and the citizens in the area ending in a car crash and a foot chase through a neighborhood and all you can think of is OMG that cop kicked that guy. If anyone here is fucked up, it is you bud.

lowing wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Every time I read one of Lowing's posts he always amazes me with his views of the world. It's like he's a troll whose only purpose is to argue the exact opposite of what's rational.

Ya mean arguing against views such as yours where you think a person who moves from a high tax county or state is doing nothing but being a tax cheat? 

actually the only thing that is irrational here is the views you all have, after watching a high speed chase, down the wrong way of a one way street endangering the police and the citizens in the area ending in a car crash and a foot chase through a neighborhood and all you can think of is OMG that cop kicked that guy. If anyone here is fucked up, it is you bud.

That wasn't the only thing that I thought. And in fact I don't really care that he got kicked in the head. It was more that you seem to think that it's the job of the police to punish criminals. Would you prefer it if the cops just shot all the perps?