Russia Warns Of War

2009-05-18 03:51:32

#101

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6712|'Murka

Shahter wrote:
usmarine wrote:
Shahter wrote:

and that had to do what with usa which is on the other side of the globe?
UN actually
oh, yeah, let's stick UN into every hole we don't know what to cover with otherwise, huh?

It's a common tactic used here. I think Marine is being purposefully ironic by referencing that tactic in his post.

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2009-05-18 04:19:44

#102

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6966|NT, like Mick Dundee

FEOS wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Shahter wrote:

saddam refused to trade his oil for us bucks and for that he got toppled - so, in a way, he started it.
When you put it that way...

Guess when the USA came knocking in Afghanistan the Taliban should have just handed Bin Laden over. If they even knew where he was.
Probably would've worked out better for them...

Probably. Pakistan wouldn't be having issues with them either.

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2009-05-18 04:37:55

#103

Shahter: Zee Ruskie; +295|7077|Moscow, Russia

Flecco wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Flecco wrote:

When you put it that way...

Guess when the USA came knocking in Afghanistan the Taliban should have just handed Bin Laden over. If they even knew where he was.
Probably would've worked out better for them...
Probably. Pakistan wouldn't be having issues with them either.

yeah, if only those poor bastards hadn't forgotten where they put their obl...

if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.

2009-05-18 04:40:14

#104

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6966|NT, like Mick Dundee

Shahter wrote:
Flecco wrote:
FEOS wrote:

Probably would've worked out better for them...
Probably. Pakistan wouldn't be having issues with them either.
yeah, if only those poor bastards hadn't forgotten where they put their obl...

Bleh, as much as we pretend otherwise, in the end might = right on the world stage.

The US has the most clout atm. Diplomatically, culturally, politically, economically and in terms of military might the USA is still the top dog.

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2009-05-18 05:05:23

#105

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6802|so randum

USA culturally..?

Everything else tho yep

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2009-05-18 06:00:19

#106

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6966|NT, like Mick Dundee

FatherTed wrote:
USA culturally..?

Everything else tho yep

How many music 'artists' from the USA are currently in the UK top 50.

Now check those figures for the other English speaking nations. Now check out the penetration of basketball into China. Baseball in Japan. Hip-hop in France. Coca-Cola and Maccas... Well they are virtually everywhere. US made TV shows are broadcast globally. I can go on if you want.....

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2009-05-18 06:05:55

#107

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6407|eXtreme to the maX

Flecco wrote:
Diplomatically

LOL

culturally

LOL

politically

They just elected a black muslim FYI

economically

All on borrowed money.

military might

Have they won in Afghanistan yet? How did Vietnam go?

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2009-05-18 06:08:07

#108

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6802|so randum

the military point really isn't disputable tbf. no other country would do any better in Afghanistan, or in Vietnam.

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2009-05-18 06:10:56

#109

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6407|eXtreme to the maX

Thats strange, the Taliban (who are mostly Pakistani) had Afghanistan pretty much licked, and the NVA kicked butt in Vietnam.

'Military might' is moot if you can't achieve your objective.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-05-18 06:12:12)

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2009-05-18 06:13:53

#110

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6802|so randum

the original quote was military might, don't lose sight of that.

I don't see the taliban with something like this;

https://www.nomansblog.com/wp-content/themes/3ColumnK2/images/strike.jpg

or the NVA having stuff like this;

https://www.abc.net.au/reslib/200709/r174282_660104.jpg

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2009-05-18 06:16:40

#111

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6407|eXtreme to the maX

The NVA managed to win with this.

https://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj256/Dilbert_X/93850113_I3RLqgFo_NVASoldier_jpg207.jpg

Military might is subjective.

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2009-05-18 06:18:30

#112

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6966|NT, like Mick Dundee

Dilbert_X wrote:
Flecco wrote:
Diplomatically
LOL

IMF. UN.

culturally
LOL

Yeah I know... Hard to pick the right word to describe the mass media penetration from the USA across the globe and the impact it is having on societies elsewhere though. 'Culturally' was the best I could think of.

politically
They just elected a black muslim FYI

Not seeing your point there other than trolling... and he's not a Muslim ffs.

economically
All on borrowed money.

The USA still controls a significant portion of the worlds resources and has a crapload of clout in the IMF.

military might
Have they won in Afghanistan yet? How did Vietnam go?

How many nukes does the USA have again? Tanks? Bombers? ICBMs? Cruise missiles? Active carrier groups? Afghanistan is an unconventional war. They are fighting an insurgency and I'm hoping for the sake of the Afghans that in 10 years they live in a peaceful nation controlled by elected officials.

Vietnam was a political loss. More to do with changing opinions in the USA than the Viet Kong/NVA.

Stop trolling.

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2009-05-18 06:25:25

#113

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6407|eXtreme to the maX

Vietnam was a political loss. More to do with changing opinions in the USA than the Viet Kong/NVA.

It was a political loss after ~10 years of failing to win militarily.

The USA still controls a significant portion of the worlds resources and has a crapload of clout in the IMF.

Not for much longer.

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2009-05-18 06:34:14

#114

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6966|NT, like Mick Dundee

Dilbert_X wrote:
Vietnam was a political loss. More to do with changing opinions in the USA than the Viet Kong/NVA.
It was a political loss after ~10 years of failing to win militarily.

Err... The USA could have just nuked the place. Bing no more spread of communism or w/e it was the South Vietnamese government was so afraid of.

The USA still controls a significant portion of the worlds resources and has a crapload of clout in the IMF.
Not for much longer.

So you admit they do then? The USA might be losing its pre-eminent position as a global 'hyper power' but that doesn't mean its gone yet. Give it time and they might still make it out on top.

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2009-05-18 06:36:17

#115

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6407|eXtreme to the maX

The USA could have just nuked the place. Bing no more spread of communism or w/e it was the South Vietnamese government was so afraid of.

And the Chinese could have nuked America - Bing no more America.

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2009-05-18 06:42:46

#116

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6966|NT, like Mick Dundee

Dilbert_X wrote:
The USA could have just nuked the place. Bing no more spread of communism or w/e it was the South Vietnamese government was so afraid of.
And the Chinese could have nuked America - Bing no more America.

Dead people don't pay their debts.

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2009-05-18 06:47:09

#117

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6524|Escea

Dilbert_X wrote:
Thats strange, the Taliban (who are mostly Pakistani) had Afghanistan pretty much licked, and the NVA kicked butt in Vietnam.

'Military might' is moot if you can't achieve your objective.

Familiar territory and they're infantry for the most part. The NVA also weren't the major problem for US forces in Vietnam, it ws the VC, the guerrilla group. The NVA was a conventional army, which was beaten in just about every battle.

Like Ted said, any conventional army would have difficulty fighting a guerrilla force in Afghanistan or Vietnam.

2009-05-18 06:53:06

#118

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6966|NT, like Mick Dundee

M.O.A.B wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Thats strange, the Taliban (who are mostly Pakistani) had Afghanistan pretty much licked, and the NVA kicked butt in Vietnam.

'Military might' is moot if you can't achieve your objective.
Familiar territory and they're infantry for the most part. The NVA also weren't the major problem for US forces in Vietnam, it ws the VC, the guerrilla group. The NVA was a conventional army, which was beaten in just about every battle.

Like Ted said, any conventional army would have difficulty fighting a guerrilla force in almost any country on earth providing the guerrilla force is on its home ground or in a country similar in nature.

Fix'd4u.

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2009-05-18 07:04:33

#119

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6524|Escea

Flecco wrote:
M.O.A.B wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Thats strange, the Taliban (who are mostly Pakistani) had Afghanistan pretty much licked, and the NVA kicked butt in Vietnam.

'Military might' is moot if you can't achieve your objective.
Familiar territory and they're infantry for the most part. The NVA also weren't the major problem for US forces in Vietnam, it ws the VC, the guerrilla group. The NVA was a conventional army, which was beaten in just about every battle.

Like Ted said, any conventional army would have difficulty fighting a guerrilla force in almost any country on earth providing the guerrilla force is on its home ground or in a country similar in nature.
Fix'd4u.

Aha good fix.

2009-05-18 08:46:02

#120

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7063

Dilbert_X wrote:
Not for much longer.

lol

2009-05-18 09:54:14

#121

Lai: Member; +186|6453

Dilbert_X wrote:
Vietnam was a political loss. More to do with changing opinions in the USA than the Viet Kong/NVA.
It was a political loss after ~10 years of failing to win militarily.

Failing to win does not mean losing. The US could have won easily if they wanted too, they were just restrained by the risc of direct Soviet interference. The US still >>> NVA. As such the "loss" was a purely political one, induced by poor understanding and control of the new mass media.

Dilbert_X wrote:
The USA still controls a significant portion of the worlds resources and has a crapload of clout in the IMF.
Not for much longer.

So true,.. The USA already has very limited direct control on actual raw resources and that will only diminish further. Economically the US is evidently dropping lower down the charts and somewhat less evidently also politically.

2009-05-18 13:54:30

#122

BVC: Member; +325|6997

I wasn't joking.

Afghanistan was started because the Taleban wouldn't play ball re:OBL & AQ
Iraq was started because Saddam wouldn't play ball re:weapons inspections

If either the Taleban or Saddam had been willing to play ball, the corresponding conflict - and subsequent loss of life for both sides - could have been avoided.

Last edited by Pubic (2009-05-18 13:55:25)

2009-05-18 14:11:14

#123

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|6899|Seattle

Pubic wrote:
I wasn't joking.

Afghanistan was started because the Taleban wouldn't play ball re:OBL & AQ
Iraq was started because Saddam wouldn't play ball re:weapons inspections

If either the Taleban or Saddam had been willing to play ball, the corresponding conflict - and subsequent loss of life for both sides - could have been avoided.

This is very true. Pay attention people. ^^

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2009-05-18 14:21:32

#124

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7063

King_County_Downy wrote:
Pubic wrote:
I wasn't joking.

Afghanistan was started because the Taleban wouldn't play ball re:OBL & AQ
Iraq was started because Saddam wouldn't play ball re:weapons inspections

If either the Taleban or Saddam had been willing to play ball, the corresponding conflict - and subsequent loss of life for both sides - could have been avoided.
This is very true. Pay attention people. ^^

2009-05-18 15:11:17

#125

Man With No Name: جندي; +148|5876|The Wild West

dilbert, your arguments consistently fail.

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