AussieReaper
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nickb64 wrote:

WAR got us out of the Great Depression.
True, that and war bonds. Mass industrialisation. Conscription.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6839|132 and Bush

It was a great employer. Not too mention that some of the guys who left their jobs (which were filled by the unemployed when they left) never had the opportunity to try and reclaim them. So by thinning out the population, namely the employed, we can create new jobs. YES! A solution.
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AussieReaper
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Kmarion wrote:

It was a great employer. Not too mention that some of the guys who left their jobs (which were filled by the unemployed when they left) never had the opportunity to try and reclaim them. So by thinning out the population, namely the employed, we can create new jobs. YES! A solution.
The unemployed in this case were for the majority, women. If there is another gender willing to start working in America, now is the time they need to start. lol
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6839|132 and Bush

AussieReaper wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

It was a great employer. Not too mention that some of the guys who left their jobs (which were filled by the unemployed when they left) never had the opportunity to try and reclaim them. So by thinning out the population, namely the employed, we can create new jobs. YES! A solution.
The unemployed in this case were for the majority, women. If there is another gender willing to start working in America, now is the time they need to start. lol
I just reread what I wrote. The thinning out part... lets call it the Palin Plan..lol
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6644|North Carolina

Superior Mind wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I've said it before, but honestly, we should just clear the books and start over.
Tell that to the people we owe.
Our government is powerful enough that it could just declare all our foreign debts invalid while claiming that no one owes us either.

A lot of the industrialized world would hate us, but the poorest nations (mostly in Africa) would love us.

If every other major economy followed suit, that would actually allow for a quick end to the recession and a much fresher start for the poorest nations as well.

Granted, I realize the likelihood of this happening is next to nothing.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6839|132 and Bush

Turq those repercussions would be incredible.
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imortal
Member
+240|6903|Austin, TX

Turquoise wrote:

Take your pick.  Either have a viable universal healthcare system, or tax the shit out of unhealthy things.

At this point, those are your only options.

I find it odd that many of the same people in support of replacing the income tax with the Fair Tax (a consumption tax) bitch about other consumption taxes like the ones mentioned above.
There is a difference between a federal consumption tax ( like the 'fair tax' concept) and federally-run 'sin tax.'

Instead of using tax to fund the unavoidable necesities of running the goverment, that is using taxation to regulate behavior.  The two major issues I have with that is that I wonder who gets to decide what activities get taxed (in other words, what behaviors do they find unpleasant enough to try to steer us away from), and that the income from this tax goes away as it accomplishes its goal of herding us away from that behavior (which negates the argument that they are using it as a valid funding source).

The concept of the fair tax is to make the federal tax system simpler, while closing the ability of lobyists to push politicians for tax breaks and cuts for their intrests.
mcjagdflieger
Champion of Dueling Rectums
+26|6549|South Jersey
i agree lets start with a clean slate. Step one, get rid of current govt, bring back the one we had in the first place. Dont tread on me bitches
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6776|Long Island, New York

mcjagdflieger wrote:

i agree lets start with a clean slate. Step one, get rid of current govt, bring back the one we had in the first place. Dont tread on me bitches
Yeah, let's get rid of the FDA too - we don't need clean food!
AussieReaper
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Does the 2 term limit become obsolete?
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Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6776|Long Island, New York
We should bring back Boss Tweed just for the hell of it as well.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6839|132 and Bush

Poseidon wrote:

We should bring back Boss Tweed just for the hell of it as well.
(chirp)
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Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6233|Truthistan
How long before there is talk of a VAT? or a national sales tax?

I suspect that the US credit rating of AAA may be threatened unless the federal govt agrees to harness a new revenue stream.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6839|132 and Bush

How long before we stop giving China a preferred trading status? They sure as hell aren't returning the favor.
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imortal
Member
+240|6903|Austin, TX

mcjagdflieger wrote:

i agree lets start with a clean slate. Step one, get rid of current govt, bring back the one we had in the first place. Dont tread on me bitches
"Bring back the one we had in the first place?"  But I don't want to be a British colony!  Oh, wait, I am in Texas.  But I don't want to be a Spanish colony!  Or Mexican.  Or whatever.
AussieReaper
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Kmarion wrote:

How long before we stop giving China a preferred trading status? They sure as hell aren't returning the favor.
Bailing out the country wasn't any help?
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6839|132 and Bush

AussieReaper wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

How long before we stop giving China a preferred trading status? They sure as hell aren't returning the favor.
Bailing out the country wasn't any help?
You mean the debt they can sell out from under our feet at anytime? I'm talking about trading policy bud.
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AussieReaper
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Kmarion wrote:

You mean the debt they can sell out from under our feet at anytime? I'm talking about trading policy bud.
Remember the time when Made in China = shit?

They haven't always had it easy and have had to work hard to make it to where they are now.
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nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5849|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

Poseidon wrote:

mcjagdflieger wrote:

i agree lets start with a clean slate. Step one, get rid of current govt, bring back the one we had in the first place. Dont tread on me bitches
Yeah, let's get rid of the FDA too - we don't need clean food!
There are over 1,000 federal agencies ranging from law enforcement to regulating the flow of showerheads and toilets, cut the random shit. Reducing the # of gallons per flush leads to more flushing, and therefore, more water use.

The EPA banned the use of DDT in 1972, which led to its disuse in Regions such as Africa, where malaria is now the #1 killer of children. Malaria was eradicated in Europe, North America, and other places due to the widespread use of DDT. Millions have died of malaria in places where DDT would have eradicated it by now.

Environmentalists have said that the use of light bulbs in India would be a "climate disaster" while many poor there use kerosene lamps to light their homes(not environmentally friendly). They also say that it would be horrible if everyone in China and India was able to have access to flush toilets, instead, they argue those people should use dry toilets(glorified hole in the ground).

This type of stuff is BS to give them(Enviro-Statists) more control.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6839|132 and Bush

AussieReaper wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

You mean the debt they can sell out from under our feet at anytime? I'm talking about trading policy bud.
Remember the time when Made in China = shit?

They haven't always had it easy and have had to work hard to make it to where they are now.
Don't get me wrong, they deserve credit. China bails us out to fund their economy (the Saudis too). I'm just talking about the complacency we have.
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Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|6945
A bunch of fat old guys who don't have the self control to limit their own eating habits, let alone stop pork-barrel spending are going to micromanage the lifestyles of everyone else in the country.  Get ready for the coming socialism/hypocrisy.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX
Obama has $1Trillion of Republican debt to pay off -> Your taxes go up.
Fuck Israel
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6344|eXtreme to the maX

Turquoise wrote:

Our government is powerful enough that it could just declare all our foreign debts invalid while claiming that no one owes us either.
Pretty sure you'd be in even more crap than before.
- Countries would stop shipping you their oil.
- Countries would stop buying your worthless govt bonds

kmarion wrote:

How long before we stop giving China a preferred trading status? They sure as hell aren't returning the favor.
They buy up your shitty bonds. The US is mortgaging its children's future in return for plasma TVs and other shoddy junk.
Fuck Israel
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6776|Long Island, New York

nickb64 wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

mcjagdflieger wrote:

i agree lets start with a clean slate. Step one, get rid of current govt, bring back the one we had in the first place. Dont tread on me bitches
Yeah, let's get rid of the FDA too - we don't need clean food!
There are over 1,000 federal agencies ranging from law enforcement to regulating the flow of showerheads and toilets, cut the random shit. Reducing the # of gallons per flush leads to more flushing, and therefore, more water use.

The EPA banned the use of DDT in 1972, which led to its disuse in Regions such as Africa, where malaria is now the #1 killer of children. Malaria was eradicated in Europe, North America, and other places due to the widespread use of DDT. Millions have died of malaria in places where DDT would have eradicated it by now.

Environmentalists have said that the use of light bulbs in India would be a "climate disaster" while many poor there use kerosene lamps to light their homes(not environmentally friendly). They also say that it would be horrible if everyone in China and India was able to have access to flush toilets, instead, they argue those people should use dry toilets(glorified hole in the ground).

This type of stuff is BS to give them(Enviro-Statists) more control.
What in the blue hell are you on about.

You say you want less government and the government we used to have - then we can get rid of all the agencies that protect us as well.
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5849|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

Dilbert_X wrote:

Obama has $1Trillion of Republican debt to pay off -> Your taxes go up.
Quadrupling the deficit is not the way to pay off debt.

@ Poseidon: The people governing today don't fit cleanly into Marxism/Communism/Socialism/Other, but they want what those lead to, more state control. This is against the Constitution and the principles on which this country was founded.

Listen to Mark Levin and you will know what I am talking about. His shows are available as podcasts on iTunes.

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