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2009-05-03 11:10:24
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6712|'Murka

Narupug wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'd bet the SCOTUS would take exception to your puppet branch comment. Souter himself is one key example of how they are not.
Do you acknowledge that it has become a political appointment?
It always has been.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2009-05-03 11:14:15
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5898|Vacationland

FEOS wrote:

Narupug wrote:

FEOS wrote:

I'd bet the SCOTUS would take exception to your puppet branch comment. Souter himself is one key example of how they are not.
Do you acknowledge that it has become a political appointment?
It always has been.
Then what is it's point besides being a relic of presidents past being able to influence the way we govern?  What did the writers of the constitution want it to be then? I doubt they wanted it to be a place to be stacked with under qualified croonies.
2009-05-03 11:52:35
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6712|'Murka

Narupug wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Narupug wrote:


Do you acknowledge that it has become a political appointment?
It always has been.
Then what is it's point besides being a relic of presidents past being able to influence the way we govern?  What did the writers of the constitution want it to be then? I doubt they wanted it to be a place to be stacked with under qualified croonies.
It's point being that it's the third branch of our three-branch government. And despite what you think, does operate autonomously from the other two, with justices often voting contrary to the wishes of the party of the President who nominated them.

You need to study a bit more about the SCOTUS, its history, and its decisions. Be sure to put aside your bias first, though.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2009-05-03 12:10:33
Narupug
Fodder Mostly
+150|5898|Vacationland

FEOS wrote:

Narupug wrote:

FEOS wrote:


It always has been.
Then what is it's point besides being a relic of presidents past being able to influence the way we govern?  What did the writers of the constitution want it to be then? I doubt they wanted it to be a place to be stacked with under qualified croonies.
It's point being that it's the third branch of our three-branch government. And despite what you think, does operate autonomously from the other two, with justices often voting contrary to the wishes of the party of the President who nominated them.

You need to study a bit more about the SCOTUS, its history, and its decisions. Be sure to put aside your bias first, though.
Name one case in the last 10 years where that's happened and you win.
2009-05-03 17:18:16
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7016|US
DC v. Heller

What do I win?
2009-05-03 18:17:13
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6712|'Murka

Narupug wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Narupug wrote:


Then what is it's point besides being a relic of presidents past being able to influence the way we govern?  What did the writers of the constitution want it to be then? I doubt they wanted it to be a place to be stacked with under qualified croonies.
It's point being that it's the third branch of our three-branch government. And despite what you think, does operate autonomously from the other two, with justices often voting contrary to the wishes of the party of the President who nominated them.

You need to study a bit more about the SCOTUS, its history, and its decisions. Be sure to put aside your bias first, though.
Name one case in the last 10 years where that's happened and you win.
Every vote Souter cast. How's that?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2009-05-03 18:25:14
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6454|what

FEOS wrote:

Narupug wrote:

FEOS wrote:


It's point being that it's the third branch of our three-branch government. And despite what you think, does operate autonomously from the other two, with justices often voting contrary to the wishes of the party of the President who nominated them.

You need to study a bit more about the SCOTUS, its history, and its decisions. Be sure to put aside your bias first, though.
Name one case in the last 10 years where that's happened and you win.
Every vote Souter cast. How's that?
Yeah Souter was well known for not being the judge Bush thought he was appointing.

It's been pretty funny actually from a Leftist point of view. One of the best decisions Bush ever made. lol
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2009-05-03 20:22:36
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7069
How is this process not manipulation of a so called independent body?
2009-05-04 02:52:15
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6712|'Murka

BN wrote:

How is this process not manipulation of a so called independent body?
It would be manipulation if the Justices were somehow beholden to the President who nominated them. They aren't.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
2009-05-04 16:21:42
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7069

FEOS wrote:

BN wrote:

How is this process not manipulation of a so called independent body?
It would be manipulation if the Justices were somehow beholden to the President who nominated them. They aren't.
But they are being appointed due to their predictable way they will interpret the law.
2009-05-05 00:10:25
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7016|US
One would normally think that, but Souter proved the opposite.
2009-05-05 03:52:39
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6712|'Murka

BN wrote:

FEOS wrote:

BN wrote:

How is this process not manipulation of a so called independent body?
It would be manipulation if the Justices were somehow beholden to the President who nominated them. They aren't.
But they are being appointed due to their predictable way they will interpret the law.
That is basing the appointment on their judicial record and perspective, not their slavish devotion to a given political party. The bottom line is that those judges will form their legal opinions the same way regardless. They are not beholden to the President or that President's party once nominated and confirmed, as they are in for life (see Souter).
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular

 

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