Lai
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loubot wrote:

Lai wrote:

If God was real, he would have helped me at some times.

He didn't so either he's not real or he is a intollerable douchebag.
I get a kick out of people who believe "the lord provides" Instead of waiting for some thing to happen, MAKE it happen.
My perspective, people want a father-figure to always take care of them, maybe that is why Obama was glorified.
Any way, we all get in a bad jam in our lives so you are not alone. Regardless of your problems, the one thing you shouldn't do is overly invest in divine intervention.
Rofl, I said there have been points in my life I would have expected a possible God to lend me a hand. I never expected him to fill my bank account or anything like that XD
FEOS
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Spark wrote:

FEOS wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

And we are the children of him, don't you think that he'd want us to grow up and move out of the basement?

Seriously there are some ridicules rules for almost ever religion.  Wouldn't you think that a god that created us in his own imagine would want us to grow and run our own lives?
Religions are made by man, not God. Man is imperfect, hence religions are imperfect.

One key thing you are missing is that God gave man freewill. That means that even though He created us in His image (as opposed to his imagine ), and He gave us a set of rules to live by (The Ten Commandments in Judaism and Christianity), He also gave us freewill...so we can choose to live by them or not and thus be judged for our personal choices when the time comes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growing_block_universe

That would place a problem in the 'freewill' thing - mind you, although a lot of people like it (because it provides a simple, logical answer to the difficulties presented by the no-boundary theorem (in itself not proven, though it's mathematically 'nice' and also solves a lot of issues, not least of which is the reason for the Big Bang) and the Wheeler-Dewitt equation, which says that there is no such thing as "time" ), there isn't any proof and most likely never will be (because that would entail looking into a 4-dimensional universe, without time)
I actually started thinking about similar things from a "belief absent proof" perspective (ie, faith). Many will put faith in science without proof of the things they believe regarding science, but then mock those who believe in God absent proof of His existence.

I find it an interesting double-standard that I had never really considered until I was mowing the lawn this weekend.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

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