BF2S Forums Hmmm if god is real?

cpt.fass1 wrote:

And we are the children of him, don't you think that he'd want us to grow up and move out of the basement?

Seriously there are some ridicules rules for almost ever religion.  Wouldn't you think that a god that created us in his own imagine would want us to grow and run our own lives?

Religions are made by man, not God. Man is imperfect, hence religions are imperfect.

One key thing you are missing is that God gave man freewill. That means that even though He created us in His image (as opposed to his imagine ), and He gave us a set of rules to live by (The Ten Commandments in Judaism and Christianity), He also gave us freewill...so we can choose to live by them or not and thus be judged for our personal choices when the time comes.

The douche who wrote the bible could have spared us so much shit. He opened pandora's box mann.

Jesus is just alright with me.

No such thing as free will. If our actions or our thoughts are created by chemical and electrical processes in response to our environment (also determined by non-random interactions) it must then be that our future is set.

cpt.fass1 wrote:

And we are the children of him, don't you think that he'd want us to grow up and move out of the basement?

Seriously there are some ridicules rules for almost ever religion.  Wouldn't you think that a god that created us in his own imagine would want us to grow and run our own lives?

If a God really does exist, then we simple Humans think WAY too highly of ourselves to be able to dictate and say what God wants of us, one can only assume at the very best. FEOS is my example here, look at how he talks like he just knows almost exactly like how God would want things. I personally think it's strange, then again who am I to say he (FEOS) is completely wrong as I'd then be sounding like I know the inner "thoughts" of such an omnipotent deity, all I'm saying is, we really don't know, and for humans to go around saying they do know, to such a ridiculous detail like some religions say, well you can't help but think "who the hell do they think they are? Bitch please.."

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-04-27 09:48:06)

Mekstizzle wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

And we are the children of him, don't you think that he'd want us to grow up and move out of the basement?

Seriously there are some ridicules rules for almost ever religion.  Wouldn't you think that a god that created us in his own imagine would want us to grow and run our own lives?

If a God really does exist, then we simple Humans think WAY too highly of ourselves to be able to dictate and say what God wants of us, one can only assume at the very best. FEOS is my example here, look at how he talks like he just knows almost exactly like how God would want things. I personally think it's strange, then again who am I to say he (FEOS) is completely wrong as I'd then be sounding like I know the inner "thoughts" of such an omnipotent deity, all I'm saying is, we really don't know, and for humans to go around saying they do know, to such a ridiculous detail like some religions say, well you can't help but think "who the hell do they think they are? Bitch please.."

Where did I ever say that I "just know almost exactly like how God would want things"?

You're basically saying the same thing I did: humans are fallible, therefore, man-made things (like religion) are imperfect.

Lai wrote:

If God was real, he would have helped me at some times.

He didn't so either he's not real or he is a intollerable douchebag.

Maybe he doesnt like you.  Hell I dont like you (I dont know you), so there you go, God, and his creation in perfect unity tbh.



@OP, the religion vs God thing, is something most people cant seperate.

If you are going to make the argument that religions purpose, is for control, then fine.  It doesnt however make any argument as to whether or not God exists.  I could argue that Gods word was hijacked by satanists for the purposes of control, ala revelations on acid ending.

Although I think the argument the bible was written to control man is so epicly fucked up a position to take it's beyond defendable.

Your essentially arguying that the catholic church founders, came up with the idea, but did all the could to stop people reading the bible?  How the hell does that work?  Executions for people caught with scripture, and they where dragged kicking and screaming into the bible being translated into english.  Fuck, they did everything they could to stop man being aware of those texts..........

It's not even an entertaining conspiracy theroy to have which makes it even worse!

Martyn

Agnostic is the way to go. Some time ago I figured out it was foolish to assume that I could comprehend "God". Shit we even came up with the name god.

FEOS wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

And we are the children of him, don't you think that he'd want us to grow up and move out of the basement?

Seriously there are some ridicules rules for almost ever religion.  Wouldn't you think that a god that created us in his own imagine would want us to grow and run our own lives?

Religions are made by man, not God. Man is imperfect, hence religions are imperfect.

One key thing you are missing is that God gave man freewill. That means that even though He created us in His image (as opposed to his imagine ), and He gave us a set of rules to live by (The Ten Commandments in Judaism and Christianity), He also gave us freewill...so we can choose to live by them or not and thus be judged for our personal choices when the time comes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Growing_block_universe

That would place a problem in the 'freewill' thing - mind you, although a lot of people like it (because it provides a simple, logical answer to the difficulties presented by the no-boundary theorem (in itself not proven, though it's mathematically 'nice' and also solves a lot of issues, not least of which is the reason for the Big Bang) and the Wheeler-Dewitt equation, which says that there is no such thing as "time" ), there isn't any proof and most likely never will be (because that would entail looking into a 4-dimensional universe, without time)

Last edited by Spark (2009-04-28 00:57:54)

Flecco wrote:

Gandhi = what happens when somebody follows the teachings of Christ properly.

You get shot?

AussieReaper wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Gandhi = what happens when somebody follows the teachings of Christ properly.

You get shot?

Nah. The whole theory about non-violence and all that.

Flecco wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Gandhi = what happens when somebody follows the teachings of Christ properly.

You get shot?

Nah. The whole theory about non-violence and all that.

I think you mean Pacifism.