96D
Member
+0|7039|Maryland, USA
Since this is more about me complaining to feel better than actually being constructive, I decided to put this thread in this forum rather than the Chatter forum.

Anyway, here we see a typical capture point. You can pretty much substitute any CP you like and my complaint is still valid on some level, but in Wake Island this offense is particularly heinous.

The place where enemies can be within defending range of the flag is shown in red.

https://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3011/wake17lk.jpg

A guy, let's call him "Goofus" for general purpose, takes off in a Blackhawk from the carrier with "Gunner" situated on the chopper's port side. This knowledge is easily attainable by moving your eyes downwards towards the bottom left of your screen, but Goofus seems to think of Gunner only as a passenger and not somebody who can actually be useful.

As we all know to be true in standard tri-dimensional mathematics, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. So, Goofus makes a beeline for the CP, his mouth watering for those juicy neutralize/capture points.

Problem is, he's a sitting duck, as illustrated here.

https://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2948/wake22zs.jpg

During the trip, Gunner has the freedom to fire anywhere within the blue highlighted area. Unfortunately, the only things Gunner has available to fire at on either side of the Blackhawk are jellyfish and buoys, because all of the dry land is passing directly underneath the chopper (which, surprisingly, is where infantry and vehicles spend most of their time). Goofus lowers his altitude to within capping range, and the two U.S. Marines are promptly torn apart by AT rockets and .50 cal machine gun fire. Two flag-defending points are doled out to the Chinese, and Gunner and Pilot are swept back to the carrier, empty-handed, after 15 seconds.

Then Galant comes along and beats Goofus into the pilot's seat. Gunner hops in, his good faith not yet gone, and Galant takes stock of his teammate, affording him the opportunity to clear the path before setting down to cap the flag.

Galant circles the flag once, slowly and smoothly. Gunner goes to work.

https://img432.imageshack.us/img432/7440/wake37ar.jpg

Pwnage ensues. The Chinese defenders are destroyed like a baked ham on Oprah Winfrey's plate. Down comes the Blackhawk, and the flag is turned neutral before they can respawn.

Moral of the story?

For the love of God in His glorious Heaven, if you're going to fly straight at a CP in a transport chopper, at least do it sideways.
mikeshw
Radioactive Glo
+130|7101|A Small Isle in the Tropics

what was that expression? "softening a target"? so many times where i manned a gun on the BH and the chopper pilot is more interested in capping a flag than to line up the gunners to remove threats on the ground.  i stood on wake island seeing a BH fly in, SpecOps jump out, and he was easy picking. the gunner must have been either facing the sea or half asleep.

dearth of good pilots, so i stopped hopping into a BH these days.
Aruba-Prime
[Expert Smoke Grenade]
+44|7038|Hamburg, Germany
Topjob!
Mr_Sinistero
Member
+1|7048|Australia
it seems bloody obvious to me, some people just dont seem to be on the same planet.
i was gunning in a bh on wake, we did the right thing and circled, when the pilot landed i ran over and captured the point and then ran back to the chopper, the pilot had landed too far away from the point so i was the only one who got the cp as well as a few kills, worked out well for me
Doyley
Member
+1|7072|Australia
Good job 96D.
kilroy0097
Kilroy Is Here!
+81|7107|Bryan/College Station, TX

mikeshw wrote:

what was that expression? "softening a target"? so many times where i manned a gun on the BH and the chopper pilot is more interested in capping a flag than to line up the gunners to remove threats on the ground.  i stood on wake island seeing a BH fly in, SpecOps jump out, and he was easy picking. the gunner must have been either facing the sea or half asleep.

dearth of good pilots, so i stopped hopping into a BH these days.
See I'm not good enough of a pilot to hover over flags and capture them without usually running into buildings or trees. Hence if you see me in the pilot seat of a transport chopper expect to have me circle lazy like around a target area giving the gunners on boths sides (I do a circle 8 pattern) plenty of time to shoot at everything. Then if you want to take the point expect me to land, have my passengers jump out and then have me take off again and once again circle and then land to pick up.

I don't hover.. I just haven't mastered that. But when it comes to the above.. that I can do just fine.
"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis
96D
Member
+0|7039|Maryland, USA
The only thing I can really recommend is piloting practice on an unranked server (though I hear the chopper camping out there in the wild is even worse than it is in ranked territory).

Also, as a side note for Blackhawk/Mi-17 pilots: on Wake Island, the stretch of land between the Beach and Airfield CPs always seems to have a pitched infantry battle going on. A pilot who's smooth with the controls should be able to allow a gunner to rack up quite a few kills (and driver kill assists for yourself) before you have to bug out--not to mention thinning the front line for your own teammates to push forward more easily.

Last edited by 96D (2005-10-11 07:36:13)

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