Macbeth
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One of the leading House Democrats on intelligence matters was overheard on telephone calls intercepted by the National Security Agency agreeing to seek lenient treatment from the Bush administration for two pro-Israel lobbyists who were under investigation for espionage, current and former government officials say.

The lawmaker, Representative Jane Harman of California, became the ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee after the 2002 election and had ambitions to be its chairwoman when the party gained control of the House in 2006. One official who has seen transcripts of several wiretapped calls said she appeared to agree to intercede in exchange for help in persuading party leaders to give her the powerful post.

One of the very few members of Congress with broad access to the most sensitive intelligence information, including aspects of the Bush administration’s wiretapping that were disclosed in December 2005, Ms. Harman was inadvertently swept up by N.S.A. eavesdroppers who were listening in on conversations during an investigation, three current or former senior officials said. It is not clear exactly when the wiretaps occurred; they were first reported by Congressional Quarterly on its Web site.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/21/us/po … an.html?hp
In theory if she is tried and found guilty for treason, could she be executed?
AussieReaper
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Agreeing to seek a lenient treatment isn't treason.

Still think what they did was wrong, but lobbyists getting special treatment is why they are lobbyists in the first place.
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Man With No Name
جندي
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we have a blademaster impersonator
Macbeth
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AussieReaper wrote:

Agreeing to seek a lenient treatment isn't treason.

Still think what they did was wrong, but lobbyists getting special treatment is why they are lobbyists in the first place.
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She agreed to help spies, she is a traitor and a member of the Zionist alliance.

Seriously though, if they were spies I would consider that treason.
AussieReaper
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Macbeth wrote:

Seriously though, if they were spies I would consider that treason.
Seeking a lenient treatment isn't what I class as treason. I can't find a way to cut it as treason either.

The defence lawyers of terrorists are not branded as supporters of terrorists.

Had she helped them gain classified information or broken the law then yes, by all means consider that treason.
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Bertster7
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AussieReaper wrote:

Agreeing to seek a lenient treatment isn't treason.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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She's not providing classified information or offering to bust them out of prison.

It's not treason.

It's disgusting, but it's not treason. It's just Washington.
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M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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Macbeth wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Agreeing to seek a lenient treatment isn't treason.

Still think what they did was wrong, but lobbyists getting special treatment is why they are lobbyists in the first place.
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She agreed to help spies, she is a traitor and a member of the Zionist alliance.

Seriously though, if they were spies I would consider that treason.
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ghettoperson
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FEOS wrote:

She's not providing classified information or offering to bust them out of prison.

It's not treason.

It's disgusting, but it's not treason. It's just Washington.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
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It's ok it's only Israel, your white house Chief of Staff served in the IDF and holds dual nationality, infact most of your government probably holds dual American Israeli nationality

Is it really a surprise to see where loyalties really lie?

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bogo24dk
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Mekstizzle wrote:

It's ok it's only Israel, your white house Chief of Staff served in the IDF and holds dual nationality, infact most of your government probably holds dual American Israeli nationality

Is it really a surprise to see where loyalties really lie?
Does it even matter. I mean most Americans on this board are so brainwashed that they gladly ignore the USS Liberty indecent. It has been almost imprinted in their minds that everything that is good for Israel is good for America. No matter what will happen to US.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
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bogo24dk wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

It's ok it's only Israel, your white house Chief of Staff served in the IDF and holds dual nationality, infact most of your government probably holds dual American Israeli nationality

Is it really a surprise to see where loyalties really lie?
Does it even matter. I mean most Americans on this board are so brainwashed that they gladly ignore the USS Liberty indecent. It has been almost imprinted in their minds that everything that is good for Israel is good for America. No matter what will happen to US.
The USS Liberty incident is not such a scaulding issue because unlike most countries in the ME, the US doesn't hold infinite grudges. If they did then we Brits would still be their enemy.
Kmar
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bogo24dk
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M.O.A.B wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

It's ok it's only Israel, your white house Chief of Staff served in the IDF and holds dual nationality, infact most of your government probably holds dual American Israeli nationality

Is it really a surprise to see where loyalties really lie?
Does it even matter. I mean most Americans on this board are so brainwashed that they gladly ignore the USS Liberty indecent. It has been almost imprinted in their minds that everything that is good for Israel is good for America. No matter what will happen to US.
The USS Liberty incident is not such a scaulding issue because unlike most countries in the ME, the US doesn't hold infinite grudges. If they did then we Brits would still be their enemy.
Convenient answer for a person who doesn't care . I mean the American government didn't even care what the sailors had to say or even make a full inquire . This hole case was buried for the last 35 years and the crewman on the ship still want a full investigation to what really happened.
M.O.A.B
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bogo24dk wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:


Does it even matter. I mean most Americans on this board are so brainwashed that they gladly ignore the USS Liberty indecent. It has been almost imprinted in their minds that everything that is good for Israel is good for America. No matter what will happen to US.
The USS Liberty incident is not such a scaulding issue because unlike most countries in the ME, the US doesn't hold infinite grudges. If they did then we Brits would still be their enemy.
Convenient answer for a person who doesn't care . I mean the American government didn't even care what the sailors had to say or even make a full inquire . This hole case was buried for the last 35 years and the crewman on the ship still want a full investigation to what really happened.
Soap...box...down.

The hell do you mean I don't care? Of course I care if sailors/soldiers/marines/airmen are killed. I'm merely pointing out that in the grand scheme, Western countries are much better at burying the hatchet. Christ we've fought the Germans twice, flattening some of their major cities and now we're friends, the Japanese attacked the U.S when it was neutral and the U.S dropped two nukes on the Japanese and firebombed their cities, but now they're good military and trading partners. You fight one person in the ME and you're an enemy for forever.
Mekstizzle
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M.O.A.B why are you even sprouting all this superiority nonsense anyway, it doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. Someone makes a post on the USS Liberty and then you come storming in with your "but we're better than them" crap that just makes you look like an uninformed retard who has no idea why the Middle East and the West is what it is

Obviously you have nothing to say with regards to the actual topic at hand, I've seen you do it too many times, your off topic nonsense is just fucking annoying

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blademaster
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Man With No Name wrote:

we have a blademaster impersonator
yea get him get ur brooms and sticks he is not the real newsmaster hahaha
KEN-JENNINGS
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M.O.A.B wrote:

The USS Liberty incident is not such a scaulding issue because unlike most countries in the ME, the US doesn't hold infinite grudges. If they did then we Brits would still be their enemy.
Tell that to Cuba.  Or Saddam-backed Iraq.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Mekstizzle wrote:

M.O.A.B why are you even sprouting all this superiority nonsense anyway, it doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. Someone makes a post on the USS Liberty and then you come storming in with your "but we're better than them" crap that just makes you look like an uninformed retard who has no idea why the Middle East and the West is what it is

Obviously you have nothing to say with regards to the actual topic at hand, I've seen you do it too many times, your off topic nonsense is just fucking annoying
That's quite an ironic post.

And so what if I respond to what someone else posts, got a problem with it? Cry moar.

The ME is what it is because of the rapid expansion of Islam and a huge influence of that religion in every aspect of their lives, with some countries having extremely strict elements such as Saudi Arabia. The West is it what it is because by and large its dropped religion from what it once was and moved away from medieval procedures.
Spearhead
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should be impeached tbh
JahManRed
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Israel is a US proxy state anyway. Espionage is encouraged.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
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M.O.A.B wrote:

The ME is what it is because of the rapid expansion of Islam
What rapid expansion of Islam?

If anything the opposite is true in the Middle East....
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

JahManRed wrote:

Israel is a US proxy state anyway. Espionage is encouraged.
It. Was. Not. Espionage.

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M.O.A.B
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+1,220|6525|Escea

Bertster7 wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

The ME is what it is because of the rapid expansion of Islam
What rapid expansion of Islam?

If anything the opposite is true in the Middle East....
Well there was obviously an large expansion at some point, as the entire area (just about) became Islamic. I didn't mean it was happening right now. But because they haven't abandoned or reduced the influence of that religion, much of the ME is still under-developed in comparison to the West with the exception of places like Dubai. It's also because of its influence that religous leaders like the Imam's can have a lot of power at their fingertips and can keep these places in a lower state of development in order to maintain that power.
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