Macbeth
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The Obama administration is being criticized for its decision to release so-called torture memos.

Those memos detail interrogation techniques used by the CIA under President Bush.

Republicans called the release dangerous and irresponsible. Even President Obama's CIA Director Leon Panetta opposed the release.

A former CIA Director says half the information the government has about al Qaeda comes from those interrogations, and four former directors of the agency say this will make it harder for intelligence agents to battle terrorism.

"At the tactical level, what we have described for our enemies in the midst of a war are the outer limits that any American would ever go to in terms of interrogating an al Qaeda terrorist. That's very valuable information," said Michael Hayden.

"One of the reasons the president was willing to let this information out was that already the information was out. Go to the New York Review of Books. It's there," said White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

The Obama administration says the interrogation tactics were both illegal and ineffective.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sectio … id=6769612
Although President Obama received a warm welcome—including extended cheers—in a meeting Monday with employees at CIA headquarters, current and former intelligence officials say that some of the agency's undercover operatives remain anxious and angry about Obama's recent decision to declassify and release Justice Department documents detailing "enhanced" interrogation techniques the agency used on terrorist suspects during the Bush Administration.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/194815
Either Obama doesn't understand you don't anger the CIA or he no longer wants to live.
AussieReaper
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Macbeth wrote:

Either Obama doesn't understand you don't anger the CIA or he no longer wants to live.
lol Kennedy conspiracy.

"The Obama administration says the interrogation tactics were both illegal and ineffective."
Would you rather the CIA be allowed to continue such practices, never to be held accountable? The release of these tapes should serve as a warning to these guys that they are not above the law.
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Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

That and Rahm already said the information was available in public so why not let the government out their side of the story?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
BN
smells like wee wee
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"Obama wants to die." -  A bit dramatic dont you think?
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

AussieReaper wrote:

"The Obama administration says the interrogation tactics were both illegal and ineffective."
Would you rather the CIA be allowed to continue such practices, never to be held accountable? The release of these tapes should serve as a warning to these guys that they are not above the law.
There aren't any tapes being released, and the CIA personnel are not being held accountable.

Would be interesting to see if the Justice Dept officials who provided the legal go-ahead will be held accountable, though.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
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Who the fuck deleted my post, at least fucking read the whole post  before you delete it. Only one line of the post was dedicated to dealing with Bradthedouche
Bradt3hleader
Care [ ] - Don't care [x]
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Same here, my post was l33t, damn it!
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6749|Chicago, IL

Flecco wrote:

That and Rahm already said the information was available in public so why not let the government out their side of the story?
This, we all knew beforehand what was going on, this just gives some specific details.


I still don't see how a caterpillar is equal to a power saw though, apparently the term "torture" is broader than I thought.
13rin
Member
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AussieReaper wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Either Obama doesn't understand you don't anger the CIA or he no longer wants to live.
lol Kennedy conspiracy.

"The Obama administration says the interrogation tactics were both illegal and ineffective."
Would you rather the CIA be allowed to continue such practices, never to be held accountable? The release of these tapes should serve as a warning to these guys that they are not above the law.
I call bullshit.  As Rove or Cheney stated, the rest of the memos need to be released which showes that these techinques worked.  You are only getting half of the story.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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HA! The CIA hated Kennedy. They wanted a war with the Soviets and Kennedy, being the sissy prick that he was, urged restraint.

Nothing bad ever happened to Kenn... oh wait.

Spoiler (highlight to read):
Freedom of information act
Xbone Stormsurgezz
imortal
Member
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I am not happy my post was deleted either, but I understand why.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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Kinda reminds me of

WarpaQ wrote:

YOU THINK JUST BECUASE MY BROTHER IS ANNOYING THAT HE NEED 3 DAY BAN???????????? THATS A LOAD OF MALAKRAIRIRKRIKARIKARAIRKARAIRARKI I WILL SUE YOUR ASS OFF HEH EVER HEARD OF A LITTLE THING CALLED AMAERINCAN DISABLAIALITES ACT 4 OF 2 ????????? THATS RIGHT A**HAT YOU CAN BE DISMSINANITACGRATING AGAINST US JUST BECUS WE ARE HAVE THE DISAPLBITES> THATS ILLEGAL AND YUO WILL GET SUED AND GO TO JAIL BECAUSE OUR DAY IS A WA R HERO AND YOU THINK ITS FUNNY AND OR A JAKE TO MAKE FUN OF HIM JUST BECAUSE HE HAS A BIT OF BLACK FACE WHAT THE F*CK MAN WHAT KIND OF WORLD ANYWAY THIS IS THE DEAL YOU SHUT IT UP AND DEAL OR ELSE YOU GO TO JAIL WE HAVE CONNECTION WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DEFEND US IN COURT YOU SEE ILL WIN AND BE RICTH OFF YOU BECUASE WE HAVE WAR HE DAD LOEV U MUCH RESPECK DAD YOU DONT DARE DISRESEPCT OUR DAD WE WILL AND WIN SUE YOU YOU SEE DO YOU SEE I BET YOU DO THATS WHY THE CIA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THIS OK WE LIVE IN A WORLD CONTROL BY THE GOVERNMENT AND WE HAVE CONNECTIONS WE HAVE ONNECINGS DO YOU UNDERSTAND WE WILL SUE YOU IF YOU DO WILL WIN BECAUSE WE ARE THE CIA WE CREATED THE CIA WE ARE THE CIA DONT YOU GET IT WE WILL WIN SO DONT YOU DARE DO ANYTHING IF YOU DO YOU WILL HAVE YOUR INTERNT REVOKED AND DESTORYED OK SO DONT WE DONT REALLY WANT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF WINNING OK WE DONT WE DONT WE DONT
But I think Supah and WarpaQ are a bit to smart to believe that the CIA would kill a president.
13rin
Member
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I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6923|London, England
You can't deny the facts tbh, it's all worked so far for the US. We'll see now if the same achievements can be achieved without resorting to harming the USA's image and its self imposed moral superiority
AussieReaper
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

I call bullshit.  As Rove or Cheney stated, the rest of the memos need to be released which showes that these techinques worked.  You are only getting half of the story.
If the techniques had worked, you would not have seen cases and prosecutions fall apart as they did and the number of retrials that had to take place as a consequence. The torture fails once you try to use that "evidence" in a court of law.
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ATG
Banned
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Who the fuck deleted my post, at least fucking read the whole post  before you delete it. Only one line of the post was dedicated to dealing with Bradthedouche
When you quote the post that is a problem, you become part of the problem.

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