Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

so lowing still doesnt know what apartheid means.  instead arguing the case for his misuse of the the term in the context in which he intended, he talks about his dog sleeping on the bed. 

stay on topic.  make your argument.  dont change the story.

you always do this lowing.  as soon as you find that youve back yourself in a corner, you change the subject by going off on a tangent or talking about how youre being insulted.  its a very common theme in your posts.
I d onot back down form arguments, and I do not change the subject. I do not go off on "tangents" and I only point out personal attacks, when I have been personally attacked.

Also, I only ask to be shown where I have said something when I have been quoted as saying it.
lol.  we must not be talking about the same lowing.  maybe you should read your post history. 

this very reply coming from you only proves my point.


please, talk about your dog some more.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Man With No Name wrote:

no you havent.  its funny because Im certain you know you are wrong, you just want to keep going.  Apartheid is a very specific term lowing.  Very specific.  You are not using that word correctly.  Ive just looked up LEGAL definition of apartheid, and you still cant use that word in your argument.  quit being dense.
a·part·heid    (ə-pärt'hīt', -hāt')   
n.   
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, INVOLVING POLITCAL, LEGAL, and ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST non-whites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
The condition of being separated from others; segregation

I quoted "apartheid polices" I did not bring the term into this discussion. THe Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

Man With No Name wrote:

please, talk about your dog some more.
Pick me, pick me!

My dog wont shut the fuck up.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Wiki wrote:

The speech was also disrupted by two protesters, attired in colourful wigs, with one hurling a UFO at the President amidst cries of "racist, racist" as he was taken from the room. The BBC described the exit as a "public relations disaster" for the United Nations.
LOL!

Bush gets a shoe, Achmadinnerjackert gets a flying saucer

Spoiler (highlight to read):
I am aware that a UFO doesn't have to be a spaceship or ALIENZ!
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

no you havent.  its funny because Im certain you know you are wrong, you just want to keep going.  Apartheid is a very specific term lowing.  Very specific.  You are not using that word correctly.  Ive just looked up LEGAL definition of apartheid, and you still cant use that word in your argument.  quit being dense.
a·part·heid    (ə-pärt'hīt', -hāt')   
n.   
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, INVOLVING POLITCAL, LEGAL, and ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST non-whites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
The condition of being separated from others; segregation

I quoted "apartheid polices" I did not bring the term into this discussion. THe Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
Have you read it?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Man With No Name wrote:

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

so lowing still doesnt know what apartheid means.  instead arguing the case for his misuse of the the term in the context in which he intended, he talks about his dog sleeping on the bed. 

stay on topic.  make your argument.  dont change the story.

you always do this lowing.  as soon as you find that youve back yourself in a corner, you change the subject by going off on a tangent or talking about how youre being insulted.  its a very common theme in your posts.
I d onot back down form arguments, and I do not change the subject. I do not go off on "tangents" and I only point out personal attacks, when I have been personally attacked.

Also, I only ask to be shown where I have said something when I have been quoted as saying it.
lol.  we must not be talking about the same lowing.  maybe you should read your post history. 

this very reply coming from you only proves my point.


please, talk about your dog some more.
My reply is a response to your post nothing more

My dog is more humane than your prophet.



My dog is more humane than your prophet.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6923|London, England
The Jews and Arabs/Persians/Muslims are equally racist, surely. The fact that there is such animosity between the two, it isn't only because of one party. To blame it all on the Muslims or the Jews would be wrong, it's racism on both sides. Not necessarily Racism as Judaism and Islam are religions not races, but ....bigotry or whatever the word is.

To say that Israel is simply a victim is just plain wrong, and to say that the Arabs are just victims of Israeli aggression is also wrong. It's that kind of narrow minded shit that I hate, and I have to admit, it's always the pro-Israeli people who have the narrowest of minds and refuse to believe in faults in the state of Israel.

If there is any "apartheid policies", it is against Israel by the Arab and Islamic nations, and it would be so, if it were not for Israel's ability to defend itself and fend off any such action.
Bollocks, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Refusal to acknowledge any blame on the part of Israel and lay it all on the Muslims, sure enough,  you make a point about the Arabs and Muslims in their treatment towards Israel, but to just ignore the fact that Israel can also be seen as equally racist is just ridiculous. What the fuck is the difference between you and someone from Hamas who just likes to blame it all on one party. Fucking people that can't see both sides of the story when it comes to Israel/Arab conflict pisses me off. And I hate to say it, but on this forum it's the die hard pro-Israeli people like lowing and FEOS that consistently refuse to believe that Israel is ever at fault, moreso than their own country the USA.

And I never understood why right wingers tend to be pro-Israeli and left-wingers pro-Arab. But it always falls into that pattern everywhere you go.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

no you havent.  its funny because Im certain you know you are wrong, you just want to keep going.  Apartheid is a very specific term lowing.  Very specific.  You are not using that word correctly.  Ive just looked up LEGAL definition of apartheid, and you still cant use that word in your argument.  quit being dense.
a·part·heid    (ə-pärt'hīt', -hāt')   
n.   
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, INVOLVING POLITCAL, LEGAL, and ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST non-whites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
The condition of being separated from others; segregation

I quoted "apartheid polices" I did not bring the term into this discussion. THe Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
yes.  Internal policies.


you said something about other muslim and middle eastern countries (sovereign nations) attempting an "apartheid policy" (an internal policy of racial segregation) against Israel (sovereign nation)
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

lowing wrote:

I d onot back down form arguments, and I do not change the subject. I do not go off on "tangents" and I only point out personal attacks, when I have been personally attacked.

Also, I only ask to be shown where I have said something when I have been quoted as saying it.
lol.  we must not be talking about the same lowing.  maybe you should read your post history. 

this very reply coming from you only proves my point.


please, talk about your dog some more.
My reply is a response to your post nothing more

My dog is more humane than your prophet.



My dog is more humane than your prophet.
my prophet?

I dont have a prophet you monkey.  You got me fucked up.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6455|what

Did lowing just call you a Muslim?
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

no you havent.  its funny because Im certain you know you are wrong, you just want to keep going.  Apartheid is a very specific term lowing.  Very specific.  You are not using that word correctly.  Ive just looked up LEGAL definition of apartheid, and you still cant use that word in your argument.  quit being dense.
a·part·heid    (ə-pärt'hīt', -hāt')   
n.   
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, INVOLVING POLITCAL, LEGAL, and ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST non-whites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
The condition of being separated from others; segregation

I quoted "apartheid polices" I did not bring the term into this discussion. THe Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
If you did a little research you'd find that Israeli Arabs get worse treatment on an official level i.e. in the eyes of the State, than Iranian Jews. I won't dispute that the average Jew living in Iran might not have an easy time but they have a certain amount of equality in the eyes of the State that your average Arab doesn't have in Israel... do Iranian Jews have to have special star of David number plates on their cars for example?
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6883|SE London

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

no you havent.  its funny because Im certain you know you are wrong, you just want to keep going.  Apartheid is a very specific term lowing.  Very specific.  You are not using that word correctly.  Ive just looked up LEGAL definition of apartheid, and you still cant use that word in your argument.  quit being dense.
a·part·heid    (ə-pärt'hīt', -hāt')   
n.   
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, INVOLVING POLITCAL, LEGAL, and ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST non-whites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
The condition of being separated from others; segregation

I quoted "apartheid polices" I did not bring the term into this discussion. THe Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
They fall under the protection of the Iranian constitution which grants them equal rights.

Under law, Jews in Iran have the same rights as Muslims.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

AussieReaper wrote:

Did lowing just call you a Muslim?
I think he did.  what a tard
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Mekstizzle wrote:

The Jews and Arabs/Persians/Muslims are equally racist, surely. The fact that there is such animosity between the two, it isn't only because of one party. To blame it all on the Muslims or the Jews would be wrong, it's racism on both sides. Not necessarily Racism as Judaism and Islam are religions not races, but ....bigotry or whatever the word is.

To say that Israel is simply a victim is just plain wrong, and to say that the Arabs are just victims of Israeli aggression is also wrong. It's that kind of narrow minded shit that I hate, and I have to admit, it's always the pro-Israeli people who have the narrowest of minds and refuse to believe in faults in the state of Israel.

If there is any "apartheid policies", it is against Israel by the Arab and Islamic nations, and it would be so, if it were not for Israel's ability to defend itself and fend off any such action.
Bollocks, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Refusal to acknowledge any blame on the part of Israel and lay it all on the Muslims, sure enough,  you make a point about the Arabs and Muslims in their treatment towards Israel, but to just ignore the fact that Israel can also be seen as equally racist is just ridiculous. What the fuck is the difference between you and someone from Hamas who just likes to blame it all on one party. Fucking people that can't see both sides of the story when it comes to Israel/Arab conflict pisses me off. And I hate to say it, but on this forum it's the die hard pro-Israeli people like lowing and FEOS that consistently refuse to believe that Israel is ever at fault, moreso than their own country the USA.

And I never understood why right wingers tend to be pro-Israeli and left-wingers pro-Arab. But it always falls into that pattern everywhere you go.
I am not pro Israel, as a bystander, I simply call it like I see it, and as I see it,  and I see the Arab and Islamic nations as aggressors
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West
my prophet

Last edited by Man With No Name (2009-04-20 10:34:08)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6883|SE London

lowing wrote:

I am not pro Israel
No. You are an Islamophobe. So you side with Israel because the evil Muslims can't possibly be in the right ever.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

lowing wrote:

I am not pro Israel, as a bystander, I simply call it like I see it, and as I see it,  and I see the Arab and Islamic nations as aggressors
So 1900-1950 never happened then? This goes back more than a generation. The suicide bombings you see conducted by the Palestinians are a reaction.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

no you havent.  its funny because Im certain you know you are wrong, you just want to keep going.  Apartheid is a very specific term lowing.  Very specific.  You are not using that word correctly.  Ive just looked up LEGAL definition of apartheid, and you still cant use that word in your argument.  quit being dense.
a·part·heid    (ə-pärt'hīt', -hāt')   
n.   
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, INVOLVING POLITCAL, LEGAL, and ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST non-whites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
The condition of being separated from others; segregation

I quoted "apartheid polices" I did not bring the term into this discussion. THe Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
They fall under the protection of the Iranian constitution which grants them equal rights.

Under law, Jews in Iran have the same rights as Muslims.
The fall under Sharia Law, and this does not see non Muslims as equals.

an example: Muslims are not allowed to vote for a Jew Jew in Parliment however a Jew can vote for a Muslim.

They are not considered equals
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Man With No Name wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Did lowing just call you a Muslim?
I think he did.  what a tard
Oh you're not a Muslim? I thought you were
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West
white seperatists usually make that assumption
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

I am not pro Israel
No. You are an Islamophobe. So you side with Israel because the evil Muslims can't possibly be in the right ever.
I have no phobia ( or fear) of Islam. I simply hate it, and the reasons stack pretty fuckin' high
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6933|Finland

The Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
And you know this because you have aquainted yourself thoroughly in Sharia law?

As far as I know, the concept of Dhimma (as wikipedia so nicely told that it's called) hasn't been used since Turks did the whole Armenia-thing.

lowing I do believe you're the biggest islamophobe ever to hit bf2s.com.
I need around tree fiddy.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6883|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


a·part·heid    (ə-pärt'hīt', -hāt')   
n.   
An official policy of racial segregation formerly practiced in the Republic of South Africa, INVOLVING POLITCAL, LEGAL, and ECONOMIC DISCRIMINATION AGAINST non-whites. A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.
The condition of being separated from others; segregation

I quoted "apartheid polices" I did not bring the term into this discussion. THe Jews in Iran are not treated as equals, they fall under Sharia Law which does not favor non-Muslims.
They fall under the protection of the Iranian constitution which grants them equal rights.

Under law, Jews in Iran have the same rights as Muslims.
The fall under Sharia Law, and this does not see non Muslims as equals.

an example: Muslims are not allowed to vote for a Jew Jew in Parliment however a Jew can vote for a Muslim.

They are not considered equals
What's a Jew Jew?

There is no legal segregation between Jews and Muslims in Iran. It's that simple. You can rant and rave about Sharia law all you want - it doesn't change that fact.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Man With No Name wrote:

white seperatists usually make that assumption
Nope, I made that assumption based on our conversations.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6953|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

They fall under the protection of the Iranian constitution which grants them equal rights.

Under law, Jews in Iran have the same rights as Muslims.
The fall under Sharia Law, and this does not see non Muslims as equals.

an example: Muslims are not allowed to vote for a Jew Jew in Parliment however a Jew can vote for a Muslim.

They are not considered equals
What's a Jew Jew?



There is no legal segregation between Jews and Muslims in Iran. It's that simple. You can rant and rave about Sharia law all you want - it doesn't change that fact.
There is discrimination under Sharia LAw as defined under the definition of apartheid.

Last edited by lowing (2009-04-20 10:50:06)

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