Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6992|Tampa Bay Florida
Thought some here would find this interesting

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/17/world … amp;st=cse

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KORANGAL OUTPOST, Afghanistan — Only the lead insurgents were disciplined as they walked along the ridge. They moved carefully, with weapons ready and at least five yards between each man, the soldiers who surprised them said.

Behind them, a knot of Taliban fighters walked in a denser group, some with rifles slung on their shoulders — “pretty much exactly the way we tell soldiers not to do it,” said Specialist Robert Soto, the radio operator for the American patrol.

If these insurgents came close enough, the soldiers knew, the patrol could kill them in a batch.

Fight by fight, the infantryman’s war in Afghanistan is often waged on the Taliban’s terms. Insurgents ambush convoys and patrols from high ridges or long ranges and slip away as the Americans, weighed down by equipment, return fire and call for air and artillery support. Last week a patrol from the First Infantry Division reversed the routine.

An American platoon surprised an armed Taliban column on a forested ridgeline at night, and killed at least 13 insurgents, and perhaps many more, with rifles, machine guns, Claymore mines, hand grenades and a knife.

The one-sided fight, fought on the slopes of the same mountain where a Navy Seal patrol was surrounded in 2005 and a helicopter with reinforcements was shot down, does not change the war. It was one of hundreds of firefights that have occurred in the Korangal Valley, an isolated region where local insurgents and the Americans have been locked in a bitter stalemate for more than three years.

But as accounts of the fight have spread, the ambush, on Good Friday, has become an emotional rallying point for soldiers in Kunar Province, who have seen it as a both a validation of their equipment and training and a welcome bit of score-settling in an area that in recent years has claimed more American lives than any other.

The patrol, 30 soldiers from the First Battalion, 26th Infantry, had left this outpost before noon on April 10, and spent much of the day climbing a ridge on the opposite side of the Korangal River, according to interviews with more than half the participants.

Once the soldiers reached the ridge’s crest, almost 6,000 feet above sea level on the side of a peak called Sautalu Sar, they found fresh footprints on the trails, and parapets of rock from where Taliban fighters often fire rifles and rocket-propelled grenades down onto this outpost.

The platoon leader, Second Lt. Justin Smith, selected a spot where trails intersected, and the platoon dug shallow fighting holes before dark. Claymore antipersonnel mines were set among the trees nearby.

At sunset, Lieutenant Smith called for a period of absolute silence, which lasted into darkness. Then he ordered three scouts to sit in a listening post about 100 yards away, 10 feet off the trail.

The scouts set in. Less than a half-minute later, a column of Taliban fighters appeared, walking briskly their way.

Sgt. Zachary R. Reese, a sniper, whispered into his radio. “We have eight enemy personnel coming down on our position really fast,” he said. He could say no more; the Taliban fighters were a few feet away.

More appeared. Then more still. The sergeant counted 26 gunmen pass by.

The patrol, Second Platoon of Company B, was in a place where no Americans had spent a night for years, and it seemed that the Afghans did not expect danger.

The soldiers waited. The rules of the ambush were long ago drilled into them: no one can move, and no one can fire until the patrol leader gives the order. Then everyone must fire at once.

The third Taliban fighter in the column switched on a flashlight, the soldiers said, and quickly switched it off. About 50 yards separated the two sides, but Lieutenant Smith did not want to start shooting too soon, he said, “because if too many lived then we’d be up there fighting them all night.”

He let the Taliban column continue on. The soldiers trained their weapons’ infrared lasers, which are visible only with night-vision equipment, on the fighters as they drew closer. The lasers mark the path a bullet will fly.

The lead fighter had almost reached the platoon when Pvt. First Class Troy Pacini-Harvey, 19, his laser trained on the lead man’s forehead, moved his rifle’s selector lever from safe to semi-automatic. It made a barely audible click. The Taliban fighter froze. He was six feet
away.

Lieutenant Smith was new to the platoon. This was his fourth patrol. He was in a situation that every infantry lieutenant trains for, but almost no infantry lieutenant ever sees. “Fire,” he said, softly into the radio. “Fire. Fire. Fire.”

The platoon’s frontage exploded with noise and flashes of light as soldiers fired. Bullets struck all of the lead Taliban fighters, the soldiers said. The first Afghans fell where they were hit, not managing to fire a single shot.

Five Taliban fighters bolted to the soldiers’ left, unwittingly running squarely into the path of machine-gun bullets and the Claymore mines. For a moment, the soldiers heard rustling in the brush. They detonated their Claymores and threw hand grenades. The rustling stopped.

Two other Taliban fighters had dashed to the right, toward an almost sheer drop. One ran so wildly in the blackness that his momentum carried him off the cliff, several soldiers said.

Another stopped at the edge. Pvt. First Class Brad Larson, 19, had followed the man with his laser. “I took him out,” he said.

The scout at the listening post shot three of the fleeing fighters, and dropped two more with hand grenades. “We stopped what we could see,” Sergeant Reese said.

The shooting had lasted a few minutes. The hillside briefly fell quiet. The surviving Taliban fighters, some of whom had run back up the trail, began shouting in the darkness. “We could hear them calling out to one another,” Specialist Soto said.

Lieutenant Smith called the listening post back in. After two Apache attack helicopters showed up, an F-15 dropped a bomb on the Taliban’s escape route, about 600 yards up the trail. Then the lieutenant ordered teams to search the bodies they could find on the crest.

Sergeant Reese gave his rifle to another sniper to cover him while he tried to cut away a Taliban fighter’s ammunition pouches with a four-inch blade. The fighter had only been pretending to be dead, the soldiers said. He lunged for Sergeant Reese, who stabbed him in the left eye.

In all, the soldiers found eight bodies on the crest. They photographed them to try to identify them later, and collected their weapons, ammunition, radios and papers. Then the patrol swept down a gully where a pilot said he saw more insurgents hiding.

Four scouts, using night-vision gear, spotted five fighters crouching behind rocks, and killed them with rifle and machine-gun fire, the scouts said. The bodies were searched and photographed, too. The platoon began to hike back to the outpost, carrying the captured equipment.

Second Platoon, Company B has endured one of the most arduous assignments in Afghanistan. Eight of the platoon’s soldiers have been wounded in nine months of fighting in the valley, part of a bitter contest for control of a small and sparsely populated area.

Three others have been killed.

In a matter of minutes, the ambush changed the experience of the surviving soldiers’ tours. The degree of turnabout surprised even some the soldiers who participated.

“It’s the first time most of us have even seen the guys who were shooting at us,” said Sgt. Thomas Horvath, 21.

The next day, elders from the valley would ask permission to collect the villages’ dead. Company B’s commander, Capt. James C. Howell, would grant it.

But already, as the soldiers slid and climbed down the mountain, word of the insurgents’ defeat was traveling through Taliban networks.

Specialist Robert C. Oxman, 21, had put a dead fighter’s phone in his pocket. As the platoon descended, the phone rang and rang, apparently as other fighters called to find out what had happened on Sautalu Sar. By sunrise, it had been ringing for hours.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West
still cant beat a 25 mike mike of love
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6923|London, England

Man With No Name wrote:

still cant beat a 25 mike mike of love
25 mike jones wouldn't have even been able to get into the area
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West
hard to imagine 19 year old cats being combat vets.  In 2004 they were barely teenagers.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Spearhead wrote:

The lead fighter had almost reached the platoon when Pvt. First Class Troy Pacini-Harvey, 19, his laser trained on the lead man’s forehead, moved his rifle’s selector lever from safe to semi-automatic. It made a barely audible click. The Taliban fighter froze. He was six feet
away.
This bit reminds me of that moment in We Were Soldiers.

Nice ambush though.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

M.O.A.B wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

The lead fighter had almost reached the platoon when Pvt. First Class Troy Pacini-Harvey, 19, his laser trained on the lead man’s forehead, moved his rifle’s selector lever from safe to semi-automatic. It made a barely audible click. The Taliban fighter froze. He was six feet
away.
This bit reminds me of that moment in We Were Soldiers.

Nice ambush though.
I absolutely hate that movie.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6770

Man With No Name wrote:

still cant beat a 25 mike mike of love
Only one? I thought that the 25 mike-mikes are to be fired from auto-cannons?
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Are the 25's used on the brad's fitted with a type of explosive round as standard? Or are they more of a ke round?

Last edited by M.O.A.B (2009-04-19 14:01:33)

SplinterStrike
Roamer
+250|6713|Eskimo land. AKA Canada.
Great read
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5888

Where's the follow up article 'Turning Tricks in Afghanistan'?
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

M.O.A.B wrote:

Are the 25's used on the brad's fitted with a type of explosive as standard? Or are they more of a ke round?
multiple types of ammo.  HE or AP.  plus DU and training rounds.

it was more effective for us to shoot inside rooms with the HE through windows, then to shoot AP through walls.  the HE would hit a wall inside of the room and take out a target more effectively.  kill radius is only 3 to 5 meters ( i think).  very survivable if you arent in the immediate vicinity.




the thread title could be mistaken for the story of a DJ in an MWR tent on base.

Last edited by Man With No Name (2009-04-19 14:02:28)

Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

Man With No Name wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

The lead fighter had almost reached the platoon when Pvt. First Class Troy Pacini-Harvey, 19, his laser trained on the lead man’s forehead, moved his rifle’s selector lever from safe to semi-automatic. It made a barely audible click. The Taliban fighter froze. He was six feet
away.
This bit reminds me of that moment in We Were Soldiers.

Nice ambush though.
I absolutely hate that movie.
Why, it wasn't bad imo.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

Flecco wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

M.O.A.B wrote:


This bit reminds me of that moment in We Were Soldiers.

Nice ambush though.
I absolutely hate that movie.
Why, it wasn't bad imo.
keep in mind I was in the 7th Cavalry when this movie came out.

Completely cheesy.


The asian guy tells mel gibson that his baby is being born that very morning....hmmm, I wonder who is going to die next?


It seems like officers did all the fighting in that battle and officers families were the only ones important enough to be focused on "with the war at home".  fucking bullshit.  that scene where the black lady talks about how proud she is even though racism whoopty whoopty.  fucking corny. 

You would never find me yelling "GarryOwen" charging a a bunch of insurgents in iraq.  In fact, one time I yelled "Nigga, West Side" for shits and giggles when we were ambushed and it brought a laugh to my squad in a very tense situation. 

Garryowen was our regimental motto.  Everytime we would salute an officer, garryowen was one of the greetings we had to say, the officer would then have to return with "the 7th, first"

I used to hate saluting piece of shit officers that didnt feel like returning the salute.  I would eventually, instead of saying "GarryOwen" to the douchbag officers, I would say "HairyGroin, Sir!" or "GarryColeman, Sir!" really fast.  they wouldnt catch it.  It made me laugh on the inside.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6992|Tampa Bay Florida
I wonder, do Taliban insurgents have text messaging or what
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Man With No Name wrote:

You would never find me yelling "GarryOwen" charging a a bunch of insurgents in iraq.  In fact, one time I yelled "Nigga, West Side" for shits and giggles when we were ambushed and it brought a laugh to my squad in a very tense situation.
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Man With No Name wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:


I absolutely hate that movie.
Why, it wasn't bad imo.
keep in mind I was in the 7th Cavalry when this movie came out.

Completely cheesy.


The asian guy tells mel gibson that his baby is being born that very morning....hmmm, I wonder who is going to die next?


It seems like officers did all the fighting in that battle and officers families were the only ones important enough to be focused on "with the war at home".  fucking bullshit.  that scene where the black lady talks about how proud she is even though racism whoopty whoopty.  fucking corny. 

You would never find me yelling "GarryOwen" charging a a bunch of insurgents in iraq.  In fact, one time I yelled "Nigga, West Side" for shits and giggles when we were ambushed and it brought a laugh to my squad in a very tense situation. 

Garryowen was our regimental motto.  Everytime we would salute an officer, garryowen was one of the greetings we had to say, the officer would then have to return with "the 7th, first"

I used to hate saluting piece of shit officers that didnt feel like returning the salute.  I would eventually, instead of saying "GarryOwen" to the douchbag officers, I would say "HairyGroin, Sir!" or "GarryColeman, Sir!" really fast.  they wouldnt catch it.  It made me laugh on the inside.
I know it applies to the regular army and stuff, but do you know if the special ops guys salute often? I've read up before that in the SAS they don't salute, even to officers, didn't know if it was the same story in the US.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West
in special ops Id guess the only time youd be flapping that right hand of yours would be if you deal with brass that isnt in SF.  Say youre an SF recruiter on a major base.  Youre gonna salute just so you wont rock the boat.

Wish I knew more but I didnt deal with SF guys very often.  Each time i did though, I was amazed at how laid back they were.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

Man With No Name wrote:

in special ops Id guess the only time youd be flapping that right hand of yours would be if you deal with brass that isnt in SF.  Say youre an SF recruiter on a major base.  Youre gonna salute just so you wont rock the boat.

Wish I knew more but I didnt deal with SF guys very often.  Each time i did though, I was amazed at how laid back they were.
I was at an AFSOC base for an assignment. We were in the "non-AFSOC" compound. One of our SNCOs went to the BX, which is over by where the STS guys work. One of them was outside the BX without cover and not within grooming standards (beard, long hair). This SNCO tried to dress him down.

That SNCO got pretty upset when the dude just laughed at him and walked away like he had a real job or something.

That SNCO was a complete fuckstick, btw. Made the rest of us happy when we heard about it.

I dig working with SOF bubbas. They always know what they're doing and why they're doing it...and how important doing it right is.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7018
Good article...  and thank god we have incredibly brave badass soldiers that do things to keep us safe... they carry out their missions with pride and honor... in the face of incredible danger...
Love is the answer
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6820|Montucky
god i hated Douchebagistan.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,817|6408|eXtreme to the maX
Micro-successes are somewhat outweighted by macro-failure.
Fuck Israel
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6525|Escea

Dilbert_X wrote:

Micro-successes are somewhat outweighted by macro-failure.
I wasn't aware the coalition had crossed the Friendship Bridge yet.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6713|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

Micro-successes are somewhat outweighted by macro-failure.
Please describe the "macro-failure" you allude to.

If you consider Taliban/AQ influence in AFG being limited to a handful of PAK border provinces to be "micro-successes", with the TB getting their asses handed to them in every engagement while constantly reducing their influence, then just what in the fuck is your criteria for a "non-micro-success"? Opening a fucking Disneyland in Kabul or something?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
The A W S M F O X
I Won't Deny It
+172|5986|SQUID

Dilbert_X wrote:

Micro-successes are somewhat outweighted by macro-failure.
....
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

Man With No Name wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:


I absolutely hate that movie.
Why, it wasn't bad imo.
keep in mind I was in the 7th Cavalry when this movie came out.

Completely cheesy.


The asian guy tells mel gibson that his baby is being born that very morning....hmmm, I wonder who is going to die next?


It seems like officers did all the fighting in that battle and officers families were the only ones important enough to be focused on "with the war at home".  fucking bullshit.  that scene where the black lady talks about how proud she is even though racism whoopty whoopty.  fucking corny. 

You would never find me yelling "GarryOwen" charging a a bunch of insurgents in iraq.  In fact, one time I yelled "Nigga, West Side" for shits and giggles when we were ambushed and it brought a laugh to my squad in a very tense situation. 

Garryowen was our regimental motto.  Everytime we would salute an officer, garryowen was one of the greetings we had to say, the officer would then have to return with "the 7th, first"

I used to hate saluting piece of shit officers that didnt feel like returning the salute.  I would eventually, instead of saying "GarryOwen" to the douchbag officers, I would say "HairyGroin, Sir!" or "GarryColeman, Sir!" really fast.  they wouldnt catch it.  It made me laugh on the inside.
Fair enough Slinga.


I lol'd at the last bit though.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

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