13rin
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What do you all think?  Is this gonna happen?  Meh...  But still,  Mr. Obama's Presidency is young...
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Macbeth
Banned
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Execute the governor. Seriously we don't need anyone causing the right wing to scream succession.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6004|College Park, MD

Macbeth wrote:

Execute the governor. Seriously we don't need anyone causing the right wing to scream succession.
aren't you a supporter of the whole "smaller federal government" thing
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Macbeth
Banned
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Execute the governor. Seriously we don't need anyone causing the right wing to scream succession.
aren't you a supporter of the whole "smaller federal government" thing
Yes, but I'm against succession, rebellion, and civil war. At these times you don't need any lunatics with guns doing anything stupid.

Last edited by Macbeth (2009-04-15 16:34:29)

Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6995
I guess those Red Necks weren't kidding when they chanted "The South Will Rise Again!"
jsnipy
...
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Superior Mind wrote:

I guess those Red Necks weren't kidding when they chanted "The South Will Rise Again!"
they don't need to. When they rejoined the union, the reserved the right to leave again.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6995

jsnipy wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

I guess those Red Necks weren't kidding when they chanted "The South Will Rise Again!"
they don't need to. When they rejoined the union, the reserved the right to leave again.
One cannot simply walk into (or out) of Mordor.
imortal
Member
+240|6967|Austin, TX

Superior Mind wrote:

I guess those Red Necks weren't kidding when they chanted "The South Will Rise Again!"
Also, musn't forget that the majority of US military bases in the south, and the majority of military servicemembers are also form the south.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina
Texas is a highly productive state.  In terms of economics, they represent a huge portion of our tech and oil businesses, and Houston has one of the most important ports in the whole country.

Needless to say, any serious threats of secession will be put down rather quickly by the U.S. Military.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm necessarily against letting Texas secede, but there's no way our government would allow that to happen.
ghettoperson
Member
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Bigger than France.
Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6296|Truthistan

jsnipy wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

I guess those Red Necks weren't kidding when they chanted "The South Will Rise Again!"
they don't need to. When they rejoined the union, the reserved the right to leave again.
Bunch of retards here in Texas.
They talk of succession and in fact when Texas joined the union there is a clause that says that Texas can succeed.

history lesson
December 29, 1845, Congress admitted Texas to the U.S. as a constituent state of the Union.
On February 23, 1861 Texas seceded and joined the CSA.

The problem is that these retards like to forget about a little historical event called the civil war where Texas did secede and then was defeated in the Civil War. So I would say that Texas  no longer has any authority to legally succeed. To say that Texas decided to rejoin the union is a little generous, I don't think they had a choice. Texas seceded, lost, and was forced back into the Union, Texas doesn't have a right of secession anymore. In fact, a lot of "state rights" were lost after the civil war and the fact is that the country isn't really a Republic anymore, its more of a confederation with a few political vestiges of the old Republic.


It was all kind of funny when Bush won and the joke was to divide up the continent in blue state United States of Canada and red State Jesus land . But as you can see, when the red state candidate loses, these guys really hate to eat "$hit tacos."

And to think that when W. was president these freaks used to say in all sincerity that he's the president and that we all need to get behind them and if you don't slap a flag pin on and support the democratically elected president then your not patriotic..... Can you think of a more unpatriotic statement than to call for secession. I guess their patriotism goes on and off as easy as the flag pin.

Last edited by Diesel_dyk (2009-04-15 17:16:48)

imortal
Member
+240|6967|Austin, TX

Turquoise wrote:

Texas is a highly productive state.  In terms of economics, they represent a huge portion of our tech and oil businesses, and Houston has one of the most important ports in the whole country.

Needless to say, any serious threats of secession will be put down rather quickly by the U.S. Military.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm necessarily against letting Texas secede, but there's no way our government would allow that to happen.
Who is to say they wouldn't AGREE?  A very sizable portion of the Army calls Texas home, after all.
imortal
Member
+240|6967|Austin, TX

Diesel_dyk wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

I guess those Red Necks weren't kidding when they chanted "The South Will Rise Again!"
they don't need to. When they rejoined the union, the reserved the right to leave again.
Bunch of retards here in Texas.
They talk of succession and in fact when Texas joined the union there is a clause that says that Texas can succeed.

history lesson
December 29, 1845, Congress admitted Texas to the U.S. as a constituent state of the Union.
On February 23, 1861 Texas seceded and joined the CSA.

The problem is that these retards like to forget about a little historical event called the civil war where Texas did secede and then was defeated in the Civil War. So I would say that Texas  no longer has any authority to legally succeed. To say that Texas decided to rejoin the union is a little generous, I don't think they had a choice. Texas seceded, lost, and was forced back into the Union, Texas doesn't have a right of secession anymore. In fact, a lot of "state rights" were lost after the civil war and the fact is that the country isn't really a Republic anymore, its more of a confederation with a few political vestiges of the old Republic.


It was all kind of funny when Bush won and the joke was to divide up the continent in blue state United States of Canada and red State Jesus land . But as you can see, when the red state candidate loses, these guys really hate to eat "$hit tacos."

And to think that when W. was president these freaks used to say in all sincerity that he's the president and that we all need to get behind them and if you don't slap a flag pin on and support the democratically elected president then your not patriotic..... Can you think of a more unpatriotic statement than to call for secession. I guess their patriotism goes on and off as easy as the flag pin.
When the left side of the country was threatening to hit the road, it was during the election season, and the who impitus was "If Bush wins."  Well, he won, and there are still 50 states.  This talk is not because Obama is president.  It is about the policies he his pushing through.  Tax, tax tax.  Ban guns, ban ammo.  "right wing extremists" (aka gun owners).  A lot of people do not like the amount, kind, or speed of his Change.  When your way of life is threatened, you examine possibilities to maintain it. 

For the record, governor Perry stated in the article that he did not think anything would come of the talk.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6934|949

Ha.  I'd love to see how well Texas would do without federal aid.  Good luck on that southern border.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina

imortal wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Texas is a highly productive state.  In terms of economics, they represent a huge portion of our tech and oil businesses, and Houston has one of the most important ports in the whole country.

Needless to say, any serious threats of secession will be put down rather quickly by the U.S. Military.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm necessarily against letting Texas secede, but there's no way our government would allow that to happen.
Who is to say they wouldn't AGREE?  A very sizable portion of the Army calls Texas home, after all.
Well, I'd imagine most people who join the military have a strong support for the Union.  I mean that in modern terms, not in reference to the Civil War.

I mean, sure, there are a myriad of reasons to enlist, but I would think a certain amount of programming is involved that naturally causes most servicemen to be loyal to maintaining the integrity of the Union.

It's kind of their job, you know?

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of insurrection occurred within the military that would sympathize with a seceding Texas, but that splinter group would likely be greatly outnumbered by the rest of the military.

In short, it would be bloody as hell and would take many years to completely resolve itself, but in the end, the Union would remain intact.
imortal
Member
+240|6967|Austin, TX

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Ha.  I'd love to see how well Texas would do without federal aid.  Good luck on that southern border.
Good luck, is it? 

"Now accepting volunteers to patrol Mexican borders.  Let No One Pass.  No questions asked.  Ammunition 50% off."

Problem solved.  Next?
imortal
Member
+240|6967|Austin, TX

Turquoise wrote:

imortal wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Texas is a highly productive state.  In terms of economics, they represent a huge portion of our tech and oil businesses, and Houston has one of the most important ports in the whole country.

Needless to say, any serious threats of secession will be put down rather quickly by the U.S. Military.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm necessarily against letting Texas secede, but there's no way our government would allow that to happen.
Who is to say they wouldn't AGREE?  A very sizable portion of the Army calls Texas home, after all.
Well, I'd imagine most people who join the military have a strong support for the Union.  I mean that in modern terms, not in reference to the Civil War.

I mean, sure, there are a myriad of reasons to enlist, but I would think a certain amount of programming is involved that naturally causes most servicemen to be loyal to maintaining the integrity of the Union.

It's kind of their job, you know?

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if some sort of insurrection occurred within the military that would sympathize with a seceding Texas, but that splinter group would likely be greatly outnumbered by the rest of the military.

In short, it would be bloody as hell and would take many years to completely resolve itself, but in the end, the Union would remain intact.
I am sure they thought much the same thing before the Civil War, yet it nearly cut the army in half.  In the end, the military is still full of individuals who still think, still have opinions.  Not only that, but officers can play games too.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina

imortal wrote:

I am sure they thought much the same thing before the Civil War, yet it nearly cut the army in half.  In the end, the military is still full of individuals who still think, still have opinions.  Not only that, but officers can play games too.
Do you really think 1 state (even Texas) could defend against 49?
BVC
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Are many nukes stationed in Texas?
imortal
Member
+240|6967|Austin, TX

Turquoise wrote:

imortal wrote:

I am sure they thought much the same thing before the Civil War, yet it nearly cut the army in half.  In the end, the military is still full of individuals who still think, still have opinions.  Not only that, but officers can play games too.
Do you really think 1 state (even Texas) could defend against 49?
It always starts with 1.  Nothing to say it stays that way.  Someone just has to say what others are thinking.  May I recomend a book?  A State of Disobedience by Tom Kratman

Yes, it is fiction, but a fun read.

Pubic wrote:

Are many nukes stationed in Texas?
Is that a question of targeting, or questioning our sanity?

Last edited by imortal (2009-04-15 17:48:23)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina

imortal wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

imortal wrote:

I am sure they thought much the same thing before the Civil War, yet it nearly cut the army in half.  In the end, the military is still full of individuals who still think, still have opinions.  Not only that, but officers can play games too.
Do you really think 1 state (even Texas) could defend against 49?
It always starts with 1.  Nothing to say it stays that way.  Someone just has to say what others are thinking.  May I recomend a book?  A State of Disobedience by Tom Kratman

Yes, it is fiction, but a fun read.
I'll put it this way.  The only real reason why the Civil War occurred is because business interests were heavily divided.  You had the industrialists in the North and the plantation owners in the South.  There weren't many connections between the two other than trade itself, because big business back then was nothing compared to big business today.

In an age of international corporations that often wield more power than governments, I'd say the chances of Texas seceding is very low for at least the next several decades.

I'm sure the powers that be would be quick to dispatch or discredit any serious threat to their trading logistics.  And all they'd have to do is manipulate the media (that they often own already) to keep public support from rising much.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6923|London, England
You have no idea how many people would love to see the US erupt into civil war,

I'd personally find it quite amusing to a certain degree
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6770

Mekstizzle wrote:

You have no idea how many people would love to see the US erupt into civil war,

I'd personally find it quite amusing to a certain degree
I see more posts about North v South in regards to England Skittles, maybe you should care more about your pwn shores.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,983|6934|949

Mekstizzle wrote:

You have no idea how many people would love to see the US erupt into civil war,

I'd personally find it quite amusing to a certain degree
It's not going to happen, sorry.  This is just people pissed about paying taxes and a politician using that as a tool to gain votes.  I've said it before, but I'll mention it again - people shouldn't be angry about the amount of taxes they pay so much as where their taxes are going.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6707|North Carolina

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

people shouldn't be angry about the amount of taxes they pay so much as where their taxes are going.
So... fucking... true.

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