McCain was born in Panama, your point is?
Well there's that pesky Constitution and all.Dilbert_X wrote:
Given the US is a nation of immigrants, maybe you should just stop being so AR about the whole business and allow any citizen, by birth or immigration, to be elected regardless of where they were born or who their parents were.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Thats fine, but you can do "Amendments" right?FEOS wrote:
Well there's that pesky Constitution and all.
It's nice to have another chain email posting idiot join the forum.
Ja mein Oberst. HEIL FUHRER!Spark wrote:
OF COURSE MEIN FUHRERrammunition wrote:
you are unpatriotic and a traitor your country. i hope everyone here who has questioned their leader is tried for treason
I mean, seriously...
Btw Spark I think you missed Ramm's sarcasm. He's making a joke about how half the conservatives on here fear that Obama is the new facist dictator of the USA.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
He is facist. I mean, he got elected, and now he's like making laws and shit. Bastard he is.Flecco wrote:
Btw Spark I think you missed Ramm's sarcasm. He's making a joke about how half the conservatives on here fear that Obama is the new facist dictator of the USA.
Facist?
But the facist fought against the Communist Ruskis...
Isn't Obama a Commie?
But the facist fought against the Communist Ruskis...
Isn't Obama a Commie?
Hitler was a socialist! Right up to the point where he outlawed their party and persecuted them...AussieReaper wrote:
Facist?
But the facist fought against the Communist Ruskis...
Isn't Obama a Commie?
BUT THE NAZI PARTY HAS SOCIALIST IN THEIR NAME SO THEY MUST BE SOCIALIST RLY.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
One could say the Nazies were socialists economically and fascists socially.Flecco wrote:
Hitler was a socialist! Right up to the point where he outlawed their party and persecuted them...AussieReaper wrote:
Facist?
But the facist fought against the Communist Ruskis...
Isn't Obama a Commie?
BUT THE NAZI PARTY HAS SOCIALIST IN THEIR NAME SO THEY MUST BE SOCIALIST RLY.
he's mooslim
Wasn't from an email(at least I didn't get it in that way), and I don't particularly believe it(or care anymore), but I thought it might be worthy of discussing.ghettoperson wrote:
It's nice to have another chain email posting idiot join the forum.
If we feel that the existing statute needs to be changed.Burwhale wrote:
Thats fine, but you can do "Amendments" right?FEOS wrote:
Well there's that pesky Constitution and all.
Don't get me wrong here. I think the requirement for "natural born citizen" was based on a fear that has since passed. I do, however, think the requirement should be 35 years of uninterrupted citizenship--either natural-born or naturalized.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Watch out you rational conservatives, you. The extremists are making you all look like nutters. (kinda like some liberal fuckwits to do the left too)Kmarion wrote:
His birth certificate was certified by the State of Hawaii. The Fact is that he has done everything that he needs to do. I see nothing compelling about this speculation.
Well fine then, a simple constitutional amendment and we're done.FEOS wrote:
I do, however, think the requirement should be 35 years of uninterrupted citizenship--either natural-born or naturalized.
I think being a citizen is a good deal more important than who your Daddy was, that sort of elitist crap should be left for royal families.
Fuck Israel
1) My opinion does not represent the majority of America. There's pretty stringent requirements for amending the Constitution, and I'm fine with the process required to do it.Dilbert_X wrote:
Well fine then, a simple constitutional amendment and we're done.FEOS wrote:
I do, however, think the requirement should be 35 years of uninterrupted citizenship--either natural-born or naturalized.
I think being a citizen is a good deal more important than who your Daddy was, that sort of elitist crap should be left for royal families.
2) It's not about who your Daddy is. You can be a natural-born US citizen and neither of your parents be US citizens.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
what about deployments or being a dependent?FEOS wrote:
1) My opinion does not represent the majority of America. There's pretty stringent requirements for amending the Constitution, and I'm fine with the process required to do it.Dilbert_X wrote:
Well fine then, a simple constitutional amendment and we're done.FEOS wrote:
I do, however, think the requirement should be 35 years of uninterrupted citizenship--either natural-born or naturalized.
I think being a citizen is a good deal more important than who your Daddy was, that sort of elitist crap should be left for royal families.
2) It's not about who your Daddy is. You can be a natural-born US citizen and neither of your parents be US citizens.
What about them?Man With No Name wrote:
what about deployments or being a dependent?FEOS wrote:
1) My opinion does not represent the majority of America. There's pretty stringent requirements for amending the Constitution, and I'm fine with the process required to do it.Dilbert_X wrote:
Well fine then, a simple constitutional amendment and we're done.
I think being a citizen is a good deal more important than who your Daddy was, that sort of elitist crap should be left for royal families.
2) It's not about who your Daddy is. You can be a natural-born US citizen and neither of your parents be US citizens.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
But depending on who your Daddy is you can be a US citizen without being US born.It's not about who your Daddy is. You can be a natural-born US citizen and neither of your parents be US citizens.
Fuck Israel
That is nonsensical. It has nothing to do with who your Daddy is, unless he's the one who is the US citizen. Same with Mommy. Or where you are actually born, regardless of your parents' citizenship.Dilbert_X wrote:
But depending on who your Daddy is you can be a US citizen without being US born.It's not about who your Daddy is. You can be a natural-born US citizen and neither of your parents be US citizens.
And it doesn't matter who your Daddy is if you don't meet natural born citizenship criteria--you'll never be one.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Never?! That proves it then! Obama is a natural born US citizen.FEOS wrote:
And it doesn't matter who your Daddy is if you don't meet natural born citizenship criteria--you'll never be one.
I think we established that long ago.AussieReaper wrote:
Never?! That proves it then! Obama is a natural born US citizen.FEOS wrote:
And it doesn't matter who your Daddy is if you don't meet natural born citizenship criteria--you'll never be one.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
So let me get this straight...we're supposed to believe US intelligence on matters of International security and yet you are claiming that US Intelligence can't even ascertain whether or not one of the Presidential candidates (the eventual winner as it turns out) was even born in the United States?
God help you in the war on terror if you can't even keep track of your own. Laughable.
God help you in the war on terror if you can't even keep track of your own. Laughable.
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Actually, these are things I have pondered myself.Braddock wrote:
So let me get this straight...we're supposed to believe US intelligence on matters of International security and yet you are claiming that US Intelligence can't even ascertain whether or not one of the Presidential candidates (the eventual winner as it turns out) was even born in the United States?
God help you in the war on terror if you can't even keep track of your own. Laughable.
And just where did this revelation of yours come from, Brad?Braddock wrote:
So let me get this straight...we're supposed to believe US intelligence on matters of International security and yet you are claiming that US Intelligence can't even ascertain whether or not one of the Presidential candidates (the eventual winner as it turns out) was even born in the United States?
God help you in the war on terror if you can't even keep track of your own. Laughable.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Who is the current President of the United States?FEOS wrote:
And just where did this revelation of yours come from, Brad?Braddock wrote:
So let me get this straight...we're supposed to believe US intelligence on matters of International security and yet you are claiming that US Intelligence can't even ascertain whether or not one of the Presidential candidates (the eventual winner as it turns out) was even born in the United States?
God help you in the war on terror if you can't even keep track of your own. Laughable.
The mere suggestion that the American intelligence services could not provide a definitive answer on whether or not a Presidential candidate was in fact an American citizen or not is simply ridiculous.