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Turquoise wrote:

Coke stopped using cocaine a long time ago.

As for using fast food as a health concern...  well, maybe you guys should improve your sanitation before worrying about that.

There's a reason why 50% of all First World tourists get diarrhea when they visit Cancun.  It's because your water quality sucks ass.  While your people have developed somewhat of an immunity to the contaminants in your water, it doesn't change the fact that it's bad for your public health to not have decent water treatment standards.

Turquoise wrote:

And if you'll notice, we've been fighting drug cartels in Colombia.  If it weren't for our intervention there, you'd be fucked even more.

Turquoise wrote:

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2009/04/02/20090402border-security0402-ON.html

Turquoise wrote:

I'd say with as many journalists and law enforcement that have died in your country recently, you're in turmoil.

Turquoise wrote:

We hope so.  We don't want to have to intervene.

Turquoise wrote:

As much as I hate the War on Drugs, you can't say we're doing nothing about it.  We spend a shitload on the DEA and its operations.

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

Our food and water gaves u diarrea?, that doesnt happen to us, your stomach is so weak cause of eating only  manufactured and heavily processed food, we have been eating "organic" almost all our lifes.

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

Yes, we have a big problem now with drug cartels, but is our problem and we are fighting it here, we dont need you for it, we only need the US to STOP giving weapons to the cartels, grow balls and reduce the drug consuming demand of your people,  and stop the drugs distribution channels inside your own country. You are a BIG part of the problem.

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

Your President is coming to Mexico to adress this problem with ours. We didnt ask him for, but well, let´s see what he says, but considering drug is a big business in your country, and looking at the state of your economy, i really doubt you sre going to do anything about it.

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

is not our fault your spring brakers drink water from the toilet !!. There are several brands of bottled water that are under high watched standards.

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

well, your "fight" at colombia is not going anywhere. We have noticed that the cocaine coming from colombia to your country has increased exponentially...

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

one thing is acknowledging it, and another is doing anything. I havent read or heard any news of weapons concealing at YOUR side.

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

that´s the price to pay against the drug cartels. We are at war against them, but the country is doing strong, just hoping your economy doesnt goes down and drag us with you.
For one law enforcement guy or military guy that dies, 10 drug criminals die. This is a no hostages war..

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

your country is in no position to intervene elsewhere. You are not going to do it here, ever. The political consecuences would be too big, have in mind the millions of mexican living over there, the millions of votes...

Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd wrote:

DEA does help a little with information, but it doesnt collaborate here like it does at colombia.

The violence among Mexican drug cartels is not filling just the streets of Mexican border towns: It's also spilling into gruesome online videos and chat rooms.

The videos on YouTube and Mexican-based sites are polished — professional singers croon about cartel leaders while images of murdered victims fade one into the next. In the comment area, those loyal to the opposing cartels trade insults and threats.

Such videos are used to intimidate enemies and recruit members by touting "virtues" of cartel leaders, says Scott Stewart, vice president of tactical intelligence for Stratfor, a Texas-based global-intelligence company.

Howard Campbell, an anthropologist at the University of Texas-El Paso who studies border issues, says the videos also signal how the cartels have evolved from pure moneymaking ventures to sophisticated groups with political agendas.

One YouTube video sympathetic to the Sinaloa Cartel opens with white lettering: "This is what happens to all my enemies." A singer launches into an up-tempo song against a montage of images: slain police officers, bullet-ridden police cruisers, shell casings, crumpled bodies.

Apparently, America’s love of firearms has not rubbed off on our Mexican neighbors quite as much as the mainstream media led us to believe.

It has been widely reported that 90 percent of the weapons used in the Mexican drug cartel wars come from America. As it turns out, that statistic is simply incorrect. According to the figures obtained from ICE and ATF officials by Fox News, only about 17 percent of the weapons recovered from cartel-related crime scenes in Mexico actually originate in the United States.
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Correspondent William LaJeunesse in an April 2 report (first aired at 12:27PM, then a shorter segment with an ATF agent at 2:55PM:

    According to the Mexican Attorney General, in the last two years, they've recovered about thirty thousand, twenty-nine thousand weapons in Mexico. They have submitted about only one-third of those to the United States for tracing. And according to testimony that we have from the special agent in charge, in Phoenix, of the ATF, only about six thousand of those were successfully traced, and about ninety percent of those came from the U.S. But basically, the bottom line here is that according to our figures, which we got from them, eighty-three percent of the guns that have been recovered in Mexico at these crime scenes are not from the United States.

One might ask how the United States Secretary of State might have made such an error in her math.

LaJeunesse explains:

    Well one reason is, it's basically the sampling issue. Number one, Mexico is finding guns at the crime scene which may have no markings at all. They may be clearly Chinese or Russian weapons, and so they are not submitting those to the United States for, quote, tracing. A U.S. weapon has a serial number on it, a manufacturer on it, it says where it is made. So clearly, Mexico is not going to give over weapons to the U.S. for tracing which clearly don't come from here. We had an ICE official, special agent in charge here in Phoenix tell us, and I'm quoting from him, “Not every weapon seized in Mexico has a serial number. Those are not submitted. Only we trace weapons with U.S. markings.

So to summarize, ninety percent of the traced weapons that Mexico decides to give back to us come from the United States – a sample which doesn’t include the vast majority of the weapons found. Seventy-three percent outside the mark is very selective truth-telling by the mainstream media.

Kmarion wrote:

Ninety Percent of Mexican Cartel Weapons DON'T Come From U.S.

Apparently, America’s love of firearms has not rubbed off on our Mexican neighbors quite as much as the mainstream media led us to believe.

It has been widely reported that 90 percent of the weapons used in the Mexican drug cartel wars come from America. As it turns out, that statistic is simply incorrect. According to the figures obtained from ICE and ATF officials by Fox News, only about 17 percent of the weapons recovered from cartel-related crime scenes in Mexico actually originate in the United States.
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Correspondent William LaJeunesse in an April 2 report (first aired at 12:27PM, then a shorter segment with an ATF agent at 2:55PM:

    According to the Mexican Attorney General, in the last two years, they've recovered about thirty thousand, twenty-nine thousand weapons in Mexico. They have submitted about only one-third of those to the United States for tracing. And according to testimony that we have from the special agent in charge, in Phoenix, of the ATF, only about six thousand of those were successfully traced, and about ninety percent of those came from the U.S. But basically, the bottom line here is that according to our figures, which we got from them, eighty-three percent of the guns that have been recovered in Mexico at these crime scenes are not from the United States.

One might ask how the United States Secretary of State might have made such an error in her math.

LaJeunesse explains:

    Well one reason is, it's basically the sampling issue. Number one, Mexico is finding guns at the crime scene which may have no markings at all. They may be clearly Chinese or Russian weapons, and so they are not submitting those to the United States for, quote, tracing. A U.S. weapon has a serial number on it, a manufacturer on it, it says where it is made. So clearly, Mexico is not going to give over weapons to the U.S. for tracing which clearly don't come from here. We had an ICE official, special agent in charge here in Phoenix tell us, and I'm quoting from him, “Not every weapon seized in Mexico has a serial number. Those are not submitted. Only we trace weapons with U.S. markings.

So to summarize, ninety percent of the traced weapons that Mexico decides to give back to us come from the United States – a sample which doesn’t include the vast majority of the weapons found. Seventy-three percent outside the mark is very selective truth-telling by the mainstream media.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Nice of you to stop in and give us your 2 cents... What's that like a billion pesos?

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Clear danger? Don't see how.

Er drugs, drug gangs, murders, drain on the taxpayer policing and providing free medical treatment?

None of those are a clear danger to our national security. They are certainly a pain in the ass, but they are not a "clear danger".

Since we spend hardly anything (relatively) on the problem, it's hardly a drain on the taxpayer.

FEOS wrote:

And there's no such thing as free medical treatment in the US. People who aren't from the US have said so on these very forums.

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Er drugs, drug gangs, murders, drain on the taxpayer policing and providing free medical treatment?

None of those are a clear danger to our national security. They are certainly a pain in the ass, but they are not a "clear danger".

Since we spend hardly anything (relatively) on the problem, it's hardly a drain on the taxpayer.

Not a major threat?  The majority of illegal drugs in the US are from Mexico.  Illegal aliens from Mexico are filling up our prisons.  Who knows how many criminals or terrorists have come across our open borders in the past 5 years.

Deadmonkifart wrote:

FEOS wrote:

And there's no such thing as free medical treatment in the US. People who aren't from the US have said so on these very forums.

Yes, there is.  If you need medical treatment and you can't pay, a hospital has to treat you.  It's the law.  Go to a hospital in San Diego and you will be waiting in a line for 5+ hours behind a bunch of illegals.  You don't have any idea what a drain this is on our economy.  I have a friend who is an accountant, and he tells me that, due to all of the people getting treated at hospitals without paying, over 100 hospitals have closed down, and the rest are on the verge of bankruptcy.  He's in charge of their finances, and he is having to slash all sorts of programs to keep them afloat.  This has been happening for over 20 years, and it's just getting worse.  If the president really wanted to do what's good for us and cut down health insurance prices, he would deport the illegals.  They are the reason that health insurance costs so much.  The hospitals have to charge huge sums of money to fir their service in order to pay for the illegals who can't pay.