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1. If Obama is such a failure, then

2. Tell me how exactly McCain would be any better

The lot of you who are insulting Obama supporters... well, I'm not going to say that every Democrat has real common sense, but no one is "still trying to get that shoe out of their ass..."

Every election is a choice between the lesser of two evils.  McCain campaign supporters IMO have no right talking trash about Obama supporters, because, quite frankly, the 2008 campaign was a joke.  At least look a little bit more in touch with reality by admitting that Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin (and all the other bullshit) was at the very least just as retarded as the Democrats who thought Obama was the second coming of Christ.

FEOS wrote:

If McCain supporters had promoted him or Palin as the saviors of the nation, you'd have a point.

But that didn't happen.

Expectations for Obama were/are ridiculously high...and he did nothing to attempt to quell those expectations.

He never said all problems would be solved the minute he entered office either, it took effort from a few to get us into these problems and it will take the effort of many to correct them ... atleast Obama looks globally for the solution ...

Varegg wrote:

atleast Obama looks globally for the solution ...

oh thats just great.  just what we need.

and if you people think we thought he could solve everything so soon, then you have some major issues.

we have a problem with the way things have been going to try and correct them.

Spearhead wrote:

1. If Obama is such a failure, then

2. Tell me how exactly McCain would be any better

The lot of you who are insulting Obama supporters... well, I'm not going to say that every Democrat has real common sense, but no one is "still trying to get that shoe out of their ass..."

Every election is a choice between the lesser of two evils.  McCain campaign supporters IMO have no right talking trash about Obama supporters, because, quite frankly, the 2008 campaign was a joke.  At least look a little bit more in touch with reality by admitting that Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin (and all the other bullshit) was at the very least just as retarded as the Democrats who thought Obama was the second coming of Christ.

How would McCain been better?

Well for starters, he wouldn't have rubbed his victory in the faces of the other party members while telling them "I want you to be part of the process but Remember I won the election" -Zero class & great Uniter.  Shit, I've even seen the rabid face of it here (not you).

McCain wouldn't have spent more than the all of the past Presidents (W included) COMBINED in less than two fucking months. -He ran on a platform of appearing to be somewhat fiscally conservative.

McCain wouldn't have offered up the laser missile defense to Russia in exchange for pressure on Iran. - What did Russia do again? 

McCain wouldn't have launched an epic apology tour to the world.  Great, what every President has done and America's accomplishments -his dumb ass has wiped out.

McCain wouldn't promise a transparent, no lobby administration then appoint tax cheats and lobbyist. Tea Party anyone?  Granted it's not gonna receive any mention in the media, but hell...

McCain wouldn't be out to bankrupt affordable energy. Obama's statement about bankrupting any new coal plant.

McCain wouldn't be out to nationalize the banks and Automotive industry. See my post on Ob's refusal to take payback money from banks.

McCain wouldn't have increased spending in all areas of the economy while slashing military (we're still at war) defense spending.  Thanks Obama, we're back to pre 9-11 mentality.

Want me to keep going? 

The 2008 campaign was a joke.  It was all about how the media could suck off Obama and build him into something he's not, a saviour.
Joe the plumber represented a small business owner and the media exposed him for lying.  Funny, I didn't see his name on the ballot...  Palin?  Touche.  Wasn't my choice, but I rather have guns and religion rather than astronomical taxes passed on to my children. 

I have every right to speak out and voice my opinion on this token Marxist 'President'.  Bush totally fucked up during his second term.  He let the media unfairly crucify him.  History will prove him right. 

You want reality?  Look at the responses nations like North Korea, Russia and Iran give Obama.  They don't give a fuck who he is.  They still hate you and me.  At least McCain would of had America's best interests in mind in dealing with other countries rather than one who serves his own agenda.

He made a presidential bracket (college basketball) and most of his picks were wrong.

McCain wouldn't have launched an epic apology tour to the world.  Great, what every President has done and America's accomplishments -his dumb ass has wiped out.

K, now you're making shit up...

AussieReaper wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Well for starters, he wouldn't have rubbed his victory in the faces of the other party members while telling them "I want you to be part of the process but Remember I won the election" -Zero class & great Uniter.

He asked Republicans to be part of the process... yet rubbed it in their faces he won?

K, now your're blind to reality.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … ident.html

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2 … gop-i-won/

Whatever..

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2009-04-09 08:34:33)

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't have spent more than the all of the past Presidents (W included) COMBINED in less than two fucking months. -He ran on a platform of appearing to be somewhat fiscally conservative.

Two things...

If McCain took the position that the GOP seems to be currently supporting of letting the market clear itself, we'd mostly be in soup kitchens right now.

Second, blaming Obama for spending so much ignores the fact that the damage done to this country's economy stems from actions made by several previous administrations and the Fed Reserve.  Most of which was out of Obama's control.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't have launched an epic apology tour to the world.  Great, what every President has done and America's accomplishments -his dumb ass has wiped out.

You see it as apologetic, but most of the world sees it as rebuilding the bridges that Bush burned.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't promise a transparent, no lobby administration then appoint tax cheats and lobbyist. Tea Party anyone?  Granted it's not gonna receive any mention in the media, but hell...

Of course he wouldn't.  McCain knows how the game is played.  Anyone powerful enough to reach the presidency is going to be corrupt, and the kind of people that are qualified to be in a Cabinet typically have dark secrets of their own.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't be out to bankrupt affordable energy. Obama's statement about bankrupting any new coal plant.

I think you're referring to Biden's gaffe, not an Obama quote.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't be out to nationalize the banks and Automotive industry. See my post on Ob's refusal to take payback money from banks.

At this point, we might as well nationalize them.  Those markets were never free to begin with, and they never will be.  All we've currently got is corporate collusion with government, which is worse than socialism, by the way.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't have increased spending in all areas of the economy while slashing military (we're still at war) defense spending.  Thanks Obama, we're back to pre 9-11 mentality.

Well, I'd hope we're ending the mentality of fear and paranoia that 9/11 tricked us into falling for.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

The 2008 campaign was a joke.  It was all about how the media could suck off Obama and build him into something he's not, a saviour.

The Republican side was the joke.  McCain tried to simultaneously portray himself as a maverick while agreeing with most of Bush's policies.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Bush totally fucked up during his second term.  He let the media unfairly crucify him.  History will prove him right.

I think there's a better chance history will prove Ron Paul correct about the Fed Reserve and the Iraq War.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

You want reality?  Look at the responses nations like North Korea, Russia and Iran give Obama.  They don't give a fuck who he is.  They still hate you and me.  At least McCain would of had America's best interests in mind in dealing with other countries rather than one who serves his own agenda.

Reality is that diplomacy is better than war.  Sometimes, that involves welcoming a dialogue with countries not currently interested in talking.  Obama's calm responses to the Taliban and Iran clearly confused them.  Eventually, Iran will come to its senses, and some Taliban members will defect.

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't have spent more than the all of the past Presidents (W included) COMBINED in less than two fucking months. -He ran on a platform of appearing to be somewhat fiscally conservative.

Two things...

If McCain took the position that the GOP seems to be currently supporting of letting the market clear itself, we'd mostly be in soup kitchens right now.

Second, blaming Obama for spending so much ignores the fact that the damage done to this country's economy stems from actions made by several previous administrations and the Fed Reserve.  Most of which was out of Obama's control.

As opposed to what is happening now?

Big bail outs don't work.  It is proven.

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't have launched an epic apology tour to the world.  Great, what every President has done and America's accomplishments -his dumb ass has wiped out.

You see it as apologetic, but most of the world sees it as rebuilding the bridges that Bush burned.

What?  Have you heard the things he's said? 

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't promise a transparent, no lobby administration then appoint tax cheats and lobbyist. Tea Party anyone?  Granted it's not gonna receive any mention in the media, but hell...

Of course he wouldn't.  McCain knows how the game is played.  Anyone powerful enough to reach the presidency is going to be corrupt, and the kind of people that are qualified to be in a Cabinet typically have dark secrets of their own.

Are you kidding me? Change!  Funny how skeleton are overlooked when your boys are in. 

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't be out to bankrupt affordable energy. Obama's statement about bankrupting any new coal plant.

I think you're referring to Biden's gaffe, not an Obama quote.

Google "So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted"

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't be out to nationalize the banks and Automotive industry. See my post on Ob's refusal to take payback money from banks.

At this point, we might as well nationalize them.  Those markets were never free to begin with, and they never will be.  All we've currently got is corporate collusion with government, which is worse than socialism, by the way.

How has this corporate collusion come about?...  'Please give us more government'...'Spare sommme more for the people'...   

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

McCain wouldn't have increased spending in all areas of the economy while slashing military (we're still at war) defense spending.  Thanks Obama, we're back to pre 9-11 mentality.

Well, I'd hope we're ending the mentality of fear and paranoia that 9/11 tricked us into falling for.

Read it.  http://www.9-11commission.gov/
Wake up.

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

The 2008 campaign was a joke.  It was all about how the media could suck off Obama and build him into something he's not, a saviour.

The Republican side was the joke.  McCain tried to simultaneously portray himself as a maverick while agreeing with most of Bush's policies.

McCain has been a maverick to the Republican party.  However He was one of those that stood up and decried the whole 'everyone get a house' and was ignored -kinda what has happened today.  What party did that to America?  How does the populace award?  Weak.

Turquoise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Bush totally fucked up during his second term.  He let the media unfairly crucify him.  History will prove him right.

I think there's a better chance history will prove Ron Paul correct about the Fed Reserve and the Iraq War.

We'll see then.

Turquise wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

You want reality?  Look at the responses nations like North Korea, Russia and Iran give Obama.  They don't give a fuck who he is.  They still hate you and me.  At least McCain would of had America's best interests in mind in dealing with other countries rather than one who serves his own agenda.

Reality is that diplomacy is better than war.  Sometimes, that involves welcoming a dialogue with countries not currently interested in talking.  Obama's calm responses to the Taliban and Iran clearly confused them.  Eventually, Iran will come to its senses, and some Taliban members will defect.

HAHA.  Diplomacy is more effective than an indoctrinated religious fanaticism?  Ok.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2009-04-09 20:29:03)

DBBrinson1 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Well for starters, he wouldn't have rubbed his victory in the faces of the other party members while telling them "I want you to be part of the process but Remember I won the election" -Zero class & great Uniter.

He asked Republicans to be part of the process... yet rubbed it in their faces he won?

K, now your're blind to reality.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … ident.html

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2 … gop-i-won/

Whatever..

Well done, two blogs and no real substance to either of them.

Yeah, "whatever"

Spark wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

atleast Obama looks globally for the solution ...

oh thats just great.  just what we need.

Yes. That's exactly what you, and the rest of the world, need.


He's showing a bit of respect for a foreign leader, again, something that can really only be viewed positively.

Your positive equals their submission.  I wonder.... Did he bow to the Queen when he handed her an I-pod?  Didn't the media jizz about Michelle's situational in but spun appropriate queen touch?  Bottom line is this guy is way out of his league.

So what would you have him do? Pull out a gun and shoot him in the face?

As I said before: it seems that you interpret everything Obama does as wrong and everything Obama could possibly do would also be wrong, simply because it's Obama,

I'd like him to act like a President instead of a sniveling apologetic Marxist.
Yes, it is because it is Obama.  I find his idealogy repulsive.  I'll be the first to give him credit.  When he deserves it.

AussieReaper wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

He asked Republicans to be part of the process... yet rubbed it in their faces he won?

K, now your're blind to reality.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch … ident.html

http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2 … gop-i-won/

Whatever..

Well done, two blogs and no real substance to either of them.

Yeah, "whatever"

A hussine quote illustrating my point listed in the dismissed blog : The president added, "I won. So I think on that one, I trump you."

You challenged my point, I proved you wrong.

so yeah, until you can refute this, "whatever".

DBBrinson1 wrote:

A hussine quote illustrating my point listed in the dismissed blog : The president added, "I won. So I think on that one, I trump you."

Yeah, he really rubbed the Republicans faces in it with that one... lol gimme a break.