blademaster
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President Hamid Karzai has signed a law the UN says legalises rape in marriage and prevents women from leaving the house without permission.

The law, which has not been publicly released, is believed to state women can only seek work, education or doctor's appointments with their husband's permission.

Only fathers and grandfathers are granted custody of children under the law, according to the United Nations Development Fund for Women.

Shinkai Zahine Karokhail, a female MP, said the law had been rushed through with little debate.

She told the Guardian newspaper: "They wanted to pass it almost like a secret negotiation, "There were lots of things that we wanted to change, but they didn't want to discuss it because Karzai wants to please the Shia before the election."

The Afghan justice ministry confirmed the law had been signed, but said it would not be published until technical difficulties had been overcome.

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Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5566|The Wild West
sucks to be an afghan woman
presidentsheep
Back to the Fuhrer
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It was legal here until 1991...
R v R (1991)
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
ATG
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Man With No Name wrote:

sucks to be an afghan woman
Sucks to be anyone from a hopeless shithole of a country.
Turquoise
O Canada
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ATG wrote:

Man With No Name wrote:

sucks to be an afghan woman
Sucks to be anyone from a hopeless shithole of a country.
Indeed.
Roc18
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Why do they create these rules? Are men insecure over there?
Turquoise
O Canada
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Roc18 wrote:

Why do they create these rules? Are men insecure over there?
Pretty much.  A lot of the Middle East and South Asia have legacies of extreme sexism.  Laws like this are actually pre-Islamic in cultural origin.

Thankfully, Europe and America have mostly evolved out of their sexist heritages.  Unfortunately, a lot of the Third World is still very abusive to women, and it's doubtful that will change anytime soon.
bogo24dk
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Karbin
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Under Sharia Law:

In instances of rape some authorities of Sharia law require for an allegation to be validated, victims must have four Muslim-Male witnesses to the crime or else the victims risk being charged with fornication or adultery.

In accordance with hadith, stoning to death is the penalty for married men and women who commit adultery. In addition, there are several conditions related to the person who commits it that must be met. One of the difficult ones is that the punishment cannot be enforced unless there is a confession of the person, or four male eyewitnesses who each saw the act being committed. All of these must be met under the scrutiny of judicial authority. For unmarried men and women, the punishment prescribed in the Qur'an and hadith is 100 lashes.

Hadith is regarded by all traditional schools of jurisprudence as important tools for determining the Muslim way of life.

Talk about catch 22
Braddock
Agitator
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But, but, but... isn't Hamid Karzai a 'good guy'?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
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Turquoise wrote:

Roc18 wrote:

Why do they create these rules? Are men insecure over there?
Pretty much.  A lot of the Middle East and South Asia have legacies of extreme sexism.  Laws like this are actually pre-Islamic in cultural origin
I dunno, that's debatable. Alot of these areas before the Islamic/Turkic invasions where Buddhist/Hindu/Zoroastrian areas. When the Islamic Arabs/Persians/Turks (Turks, as in, Mongols) went on to invade the regions it's when alot of the shit began to rise

Think of it in the same way as Europe during the Ancient Greek/Roman eras and then Europe during the "Dark ages" just after Christianity had conquered most of the continent

These areas had their golden ages and then went to shit afterwards, except unlike Europe, the region didn't have a Renaissance

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-04-01 07:26:43)

bogo24dk
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Talking about and rape and religion. Let's see what it says in the bible :


1) Murder, rape, and pillage at Jabesh-gilead  (Judges 21:10-24 NLT)



    So they sent twelve thousand warriors to Jabesh-gilead with orders to kill everyone there, including women and children.  "This is what you are to do," they said. "Completely destroy all the males and every woman who is not a virgin."  Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp at Shiloh in the land of Canaan.



    The Israelite assembly sent a peace delegation to the little remnant of Benjamin who were living at the rock of Rimmon. Then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives.  But there were not enough women for all of them.  The people felt sorry for Benjamin because the LORD had left this gap in the tribes of Israel.  So the Israelite leaders asked, "How can we find wives for the few who remain, since all the women of the tribe of Benjamin are dead?  There must be heirs for the survivors so that an entire tribe of Israel will not be lost forever.  But we cannot give them our own daughters in marriage because we have sworn with a solemn oath that anyone who does this will fall under God's curse."



    Then they thought of the annual festival of the LORD held in Shiloh, between Lebonah and Bethel, along the east side of the road that goes from Bethel to Shechem.  They told the men of Benjamin who still needed wives, "Go and hide in the vineyards.  When the women of Shiloh come out for their dances, rush out from the vineyards, and each of you can take one of them home to be your wife!  And when their fathers and brothers come to us in protest, we will tell them, 'Please be understanding.  Let them have your daughters, for we didn't find enough wives for them when we destroyed Jabesh-gilead. And you are not guilty of breaking the vow since you did not give your daughters in marriage to them.'"  So the men of Benjamin did as they were told.  They kidnapped the women who took part in the celebration and carried them off to the land of their own inheritance.  Then they rebuilt their towns and lived in them.  So the assembly of Israel departed by tribes and families, and they returned to their own homes.



    Obviously these women were repeatedly raped.  These sick bastards killed and raped an entire town and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.  How can anyone see this as anything but evil?



2) Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites    (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



    They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men.  All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle.  They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword.  Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder.  They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived.  After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



    Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp.  But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle.  "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded.  "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor.  They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people.  Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man.  Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.



Clearly Moses and God approves of rape of virgins.



3) More Murder Rape and Pillage   (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



     As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace.  If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor.  But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town.  When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town.  But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder.  You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.



What kind of God approves of murder, rape, and slavery?



4) Laws of Rape   (Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT)



    If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.



What kind of lunatic would make a rape victim marry her attacker?  Answer: God.



5) Death to the Rape Victim   (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)



    If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife.



    It is clear that God doesn't give a damn about the rape victim.  He is only concerned about the violation of another mans "property".



6) David's Punishment - Polygamy, Rape, Baby Killing, and God's "Forgiveness" (2 Samuel 12:11-14 NAB)



    Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house.  I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor.  He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight.  You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'

    Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord."  Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die.  But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."  [The child dies seven days later.]



    This has got to be one of the sickest quotes of the Bible.  God himself brings the completely innocent rape victims to the rapist.  What kind of pathetic loser would do something so evil?  And then he kills a child!  This is sick, really sick!



7)  Rape of Female Captives   (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)



    "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house.  But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb.  After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife.  However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."


    Once again God approves of forcible rape.



8)  Rape and the Spoils of War (Judges 5:30 NAB)



    They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil.   (Judges 5:30 NAB)



9) Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



    When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are.  If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again.  But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.  And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter.  If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife.  If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.   (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)



    Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst.  And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.   (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
too_money2007
Member
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If it's real, just withhold funding from them and they'll amend it.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
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Afganistan supposidly wrote a law legalizing just that?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first10 … lize-rape/

To me this is the stupidest fucking story ever, it must be a slow news week.

#1  Rape in marriage???  I would contest if a sexual act with your wife is considered rape it probably isn't a real marriage.

#2  Isn't this the country that stones women to death for being raped and they burn girls to death for going to school?  Is this really a nation of laws? 

#3  Opium Fields and Drug lords = Nations biggest industry and Most powerful political party.

So does anyone have any experience with being raped by their Husband/Wife?
Cybargs
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Some wives are bought tbh.
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Lotta_Drool
Spit
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Cybargs wrote:

Some wives are bought tbh.
So, I would argue if a country allows you to buy your wife you should be able to get your money's worth.  I mean, stupid is stupid.  We allow slavery, child molestation, but NO means NO dammit.

Islam makes as much sense as liberalism.
Cybargs
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

Islam makes as much sense as liberalism.
wat
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topal63
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Cybargs wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Islam makes as much sense as liberalism.
wat
Double what?
Turquoise
O Canada
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6397|North Carolina

Lotta_Drool wrote:

Islam makes as much sense as liberalism.
You do realize that the version of Islam that supports things like marital rape is extremely conservative, right?

Liberalism is the side of Islam that actually gives women rights to begin with.

It's the difference between Muslims in Afghanistan and Muslims in Albania.

In short, liberalism is a good thing for Islam.  Conservatism tends to be a bad thing for Islam.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
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Roc18 wrote:

Why do they create these rules? Are men insecure over there?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w … 022878.ece
But some residents of Matta have accused the commander of ordering the beating to get revenge after the girl refused to accept his proposal of marriage
Xbone Stormsurgezz
LiamPK
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presidentsheep wrote:

It was legal here until 1991...
R v R (1991)
Synoptic law Law and Morals

Last edited by LiamPK (2009-04-04 16:05:33)

blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|6637
fucked up shit, they ought to just shoot each fucker who rapes a woman
.Sup
be nice
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Man With No Name wrote:

sucks to be an afghan woman
but sounds good to be an afghan man
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Jennnnni
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Roc18 wrote:

Why do they create these rules? Are men insecure over there?

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