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Now that the 'War on Terror' has shifted to Afghanistan, now what?
Now that the 'War on Terror' has shifted to Afghanistan, now what?
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its not the war on terror anymore says the messiah
"War on Terror" Overseas Contingency Operation sayeth the "Messiah".Harmor wrote:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2009/04/recent_scenes_from_afghanistan.html
Now that the 'War on Terror' has shifted to Afghanistan, now what?
Afghanistan has the very real potential to be a Vietnam scenario, akin to Bush's Iraq. It will still be going when he leaves office and be a major issue for voters.
I hope that results are demanded soon by the American people, despite the Obama supporters love, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
I hope that results are demanded soon by the American people, despite the Obama supporters love, the line has to be drawn somewhere.
Tru dat, Afghanistan and Iraq are 'overseas contingency operations'.usmarine wrote:
its not the war on terror anymore says the messiah
War doesn't sound nice when you say it so they are gonna call them that from now on.
@OP Awesome photos Harmor.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
i dont agree. i would say NK is more of a problem for OAussieReaper wrote:
Afghanistan has the very real potential to be a Vietnam scenario, akin to Bush's Iraq. It will still be going when he leaves office and be a major issue for voters.
awsm pics man that country is so bartered its not gonna be able to grow anything for next 1000 years
not really. they seem to grow drugs just fine...blademaster wrote:
awsm pics man that country is so bartered its not gonna be able to grow anything for next 1000 years
TBF, comparing what we're doing in Afghanistan to what we did in Iraq is like comparing... hell, I can't even think of a worthy analogy... for a start, the Afghans asked us to go there to help them deal with the Taliban.
erm..the INC asked us to overthrow saddam...Scorpion0x17 wrote:
TBF, comparing what we're doing in Afghanistan to what we did in Iraq is like comparing... hell, I can't even think of a worthy analogy... for a start, the Afghans asked us to go there to help them deal with the Taliban.
Sell Afghanistan back to the mongols.
They were not the governing power in Iraq at the time.usmarine wrote:
erm..the INC asked us to overthrow saddam...Scorpion0x17 wrote:
TBF, comparing what we're doing in Afghanistan to what we did in Iraq is like comparing... hell, I can't even think of a worthy analogy... for a start, the Afghans asked us to go there to help them deal with the Taliban.
That's like Italy invading the US because the Mafia asked them to.
are you telling me the taliban did not control that country? i was there in '01-'02 and can tell you the "govt" had zero control of that country.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
They were not the governing power in Iraq at the time.
That's like Italy invading the US because the Mafia asked them to.
yea Taliban did control the country as far I can tell, but we attacked them on the ground that they had something to do with 9/11 not sure how much was accomplished by attacking them, yeah the gov. is distorted and those mujaheddin soldiers are routed but besides that not sure....usmarine wrote:
are you telling me the taliban did not control that country? i was there in '01-'02 and can tell you the "govt" had zero control of that country.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
They were not the governing power in Iraq at the time.
That's like Italy invading the US because the Mafia asked them to.
No. But they also weren't the internationally recognised government of the country, now, were they?usmarine wrote:
are you telling me the taliban did not control that country? i was there in '01-'02 and can tell you the "govt" had zero control of that country.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
They were not the governing power in Iraq at the time.
That's like Italy invading the US because the Mafia asked them to.
When we invaded iraq, Saddams regime was the internationally recognised government of Iraq.
The INC were nothing more than terrorists/dissidents/freedom fighters (depending on your world view).
i am confused. your assertion is that afghan asked us to come there?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
No. But they also weren't the internationally recognised government of the country, now, were they?usmarine wrote:
are you telling me the taliban did not control that country? i was there in '01-'02 and can tell you the "govt" had zero control of that country.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
They were not the governing power in Iraq at the time.
That's like Italy invading the US because the Mafia asked them to.
When we invaded iraq, Saddams regime was the internationally recognised government of Iraq.
The INC were nothing more than terrorists/dissidents/freedom fighters (depending on your world view).
I am say that the Afghan government asked us to go help them with their Taliban problem.usmarine wrote:
i am confused. your assertion is that afghan asked us to come there?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
No. But they also weren't the internationally recognised government of the country, now, were they?usmarine wrote:
are you telling me the taliban did not control that country? i was there in '01-'02 and can tell you the "govt" had zero control of that country.
When we invaded iraq, Saddams regime was the internationally recognised government of Iraq.
The INC were nothing more than terrorists/dissidents/freedom fighters (depending on your world view).
so they waited till after 9/11 to do so?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I am saying that the Afghan government asked us to go help them with their Taliban problem.
I hope I get to go to Afghanistan before Canada pulls out in 2011.
What does 9/11 have to do with it?usmarine wrote:
so they waited till after 9/11 to do so?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
I am saying that the Afghan government asked us to go help them with their Taliban problem.
sourceNATO wrote:
ISAF Mandate
ISAF has been deployed since 2001 under the authority of the UN Security Council (UNSC) which authorised the establishment of the force to assist the Afghan government “in the maintenance of security in Kabul and its surrounding areas, so that the Afghan Interim Authority as well as the personnel of the United Nations can operate in a secure environment.”
ISAF is a coalition of the willing - not a UN force properly speaking - which has a peace-enforcement mandate under Chapter VII of the UN Charter.
Nine UN Security Council Resolutions relate to ISAF, namely: 1386, 1413, 1444, 1510, 1563, 1623, 1707, 1776 and 1833 (on 23 September 2008). A detailed Military Technical Agreement agreed between the ISAF Commander and the Afghan Transitional Authority in January 2002 provides additional guidance for ISAF operations.
NATO took command of ISAF in August 2003 upon request of the UN and the Government of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan and soon after, the UN gave ISAF a mandate to expand outside of Kabul.
and they asked the US / Brits / Nucks / Aussies to invade?
Last edited by usmarine (2009-04-01 22:53:25)
'invade' no - it's not an invasion if you're invited!usmarine wrote:
and they asked the US to invade?
But, yes, I believe the US were always a part of the "coalition of the willing".
"maintenance of security in Kabul" is not b-52 bombing runs bro. i am sorry, i dont buy it.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
'invade' no - it's not an invasion if you're invited!usmarine wrote:
and they asked the US to invade?
But, yes, I believe the US were always a part of the "coalition of the willing".
That's a question of tactics.usmarine wrote:
"maintenance of security in Kabul" is not b-52 bombing runs bro. i am sorry, i dont buy it.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
'invade' no - it's not an invasion if you're invited!usmarine wrote:
and they asked the US to invade?
But, yes, I believe the US were always a part of the "coalition of the willing".
I don't know the specifics so I can't judge whether the situation required B52's or not.
ok....
you seem to think we were invited. i see nothing in your link that mandates any action at all. all i see is post invasion stuff. i would buy that if they were asking in lets say 1998...
you seem to think we were invited. i see nothing in your link that mandates any action at all. all i see is post invasion stuff. i would buy that if they were asking in lets say 1998...
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