Pushing an unpopular belief and piggybacking on a stark reality aren't one and the same. People will find virtually any cause to exploit for their own interests. It doesn't mean that cause isn't relevant.
I'm sure there are. Scientists would be pretty crap at their jobs if they all agreed with each other about everything. In any case, had he perhaps made some attempt to post the ideas of some of these scientists with some sources I'd have been a little more tolerant. As it stands all this is reminding me of is his ridiculously flawed rant the other week about how ADHD didn't exist.SonderKommando wrote:
dunno, says here that there are quite a few scientist disagree with the UN's panel on climate change. About 800 are meeting in New York.ghettoperson wrote:
Oh goody, another topic where Mitchy spouts some bullshit about something he knows nothing about, with no regard for facts, figures, or general scientific consensus.Oh my bad, he has a source...
Fucking lol Mitch, is this some kind of e-persona or are you this stupid in real life as well?
http://www.heartland.org/publications/e … n_NYC.html
your name will fit you well after they start capping and taxing carbon emissions.
To discredit a party who would be able to win elections with promises of improved green policies? Also, if they collect tax for the environmental issue they would presumably need to spend a good chunk of the taxes on promised environmental changes. If they don't they can kiss their second term goodbye.Mitch wrote:
Why would a politician push an unpopular belief that demotes the idea of them getting their hands on more tax money -.-
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
O sweet lord.Mitch wrote:
Why would a politician push an unpopular belief that demotes the idea of them getting their hands on more tax money -.-Macbeth wrote:
lol That is funny considering your just pushing another general belief used by a different set of politicians.Mitch wrote:
Why are you afraid to look beyond the general belief thats pushed by politicians?
I guess I will explain it to you in great detail.
1. The GOP loves big business, big business hates taxes on them.
2. Everyone hates taxes on them, so fighting taxes is a good thing for the GOP
3. Unpopular to a group of people bf2s is not an accurate dipliaction of the world as a whole.
4. Science is bad unless it proves what you like, fight science get votes.
Get it Mitch?
lol google ads : Creation Care, evangelicals and scientists unite to protect creationism.
fits the targeted audience of this topic nicely
fits the targeted audience of this topic nicely
I'm sure there were people who doubted ozone layer depletion from CFCs, but it's the sort of thing where you want to err on the safe side. If there is even a moderate chance that we might be exacerbating global warming, it should be investigated and greenhouse gas production curtailed just for the sake of future generations. I believe in climate cycles, and we may very well be in the midst of a warming trend, but I don't think it unreasonable to assume that we might be "fanning the fire" so to speak, and could potentially cause much more dramatic climate change than would otherwise happen. If the oceans rise too fast, it's not the end of the world per se, but you are looking at a disaster on the scale of Katrina, multiplied by, say, a million...gradual destruction of many major world cities, mass exodus of coastal dwellers, etc.
If politicians could see past the next election cycle we would have probably already had more significant government support for lowered emissions and increased efficiency of various industries/products/etc..., but this is stuff that involves a lot of research, and thus money, that might otherwise go towards ultimately filling some rich guys' bank accounts even further.
If politicians could see past the next election cycle we would have probably already had more significant government support for lowered emissions and increased efficiency of various industries/products/etc..., but this is stuff that involves a lot of research, and thus money, that might otherwise go towards ultimately filling some rich guys' bank accounts even further.

You can't prove that you exist.
Discuss.
Discuss.

I think Mitch is just an account someone made to make the side he argues for look stupid, therefore making the opposite side of the argument look correct.
Discuss.
Discuss.

How does that prove it?Warhammer wrote:
Here's my DNANooBesT wrote:
You can't prove that you exist.
Discuss.

Your DNA is just as meaningful as your body in trying to prove NooBest wrong. You can't answer a philosophical question except with another philosophical question that is even more curious and perplexing than the previous.Warhammer wrote:
Here's my DNANooBesT wrote:
You can't prove that you exist.
Discuss.
It was meant to be humours was thinking adding something to it.NooBesT wrote:
How does that prove it?Warhammer wrote:
Here's my DNANooBesT wrote:
You can't prove that you exist.
Discuss.
Superior Mind is superior.Superior Mind wrote:
Your DNA is just as meaningful as your body in trying to prove NooBest wrong. You can't answer a philosophical question except with another philosophical question that is even more curious and perplexing than the previous.Warhammer wrote:
Here's my DNANooBesT wrote:
You can't prove that you exist.
Discuss.
This is true.ATG wrote:
The North Pole is not where it used to be, nor is the equator.
/debate
I'll add to your DNA.Warhammer wrote:
It was meant to be humours was thinking adding something to it.NooBesT wrote:
How does that prove it?Warhammer wrote:
Here's my DNA
If you know what I mean...
Last edited by AussieReaper (2009-03-31 20:35:21)

Bow chica wow wowAussieReaper wrote:
I'll add to you're DNA.Warhammer wrote:
It was meant to be humours was thinking adding something to it.NooBesT wrote:
How does that prove it?
If you know what I mean...
destruktion_6143 wrote:
Bow chica wow wowAussieReaper wrote:
I'll add to you're DNA.Warhammer wrote:
It was meant to be humours was thinking adding something to it.
If you know what I mean...
OMG...Al Gore has come up with a plan to plug volcanoes in order to stop global warning...I mean, come on!!
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap … index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap … index.html
Yeah, right, the pressure would just build and build until the whole world blew apart!Pubic wrote:
OMG...Al Gore has come up with a plan to plug volcanoes in order to stop global warning...I mean, come on!!
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap … index.html
Climate change is real, and it will bring a shitstorm of greif. /thread
The Earth warms and cools...I mean there are at least 10 recorded Ice Ages. My only question is "How does it cool once its warmed up?"
i dont care about global myth warming. lots of people who believe in global warming believe in religion. nuff said.
Global warming is a scam that lends credibility to the greenie earth movement. The earth warming and cooling is due to natural cycles with the sun, and there can be effects from volcano activity.
Pollution is a separate problem and one that can have international consequences. In some ways its easier to speak directly to the people in different nations by using the greenie global warming speak, than to try and come up with bilateral or multilateral accords on pollution using just diplomatic chanels.
Ultimately the government support of the global warming crowd has always been about setting up a new false market in carbon credits to create a new cash cow for bureaucrats. And when those taxes hit get ready for a doubling or tripling of your energy costs.
Cap and trade will cost us dearly
families and workers would still have to pay $6.735 trillion into the system in the form of higher energy costs to get back an estimated $802 billion in tax relief. That’s a return of $1.00 for every $8.40 paid.
I'm sorry but when there is $6.7 trillion on the table to picked up by the government and even more money for other govts around the world, then I'm going to have to take the reports by all the govt sponsored scientists with a grain of salt.... a lime.... and a big ass glass of tequila.
IMO volcanoes have more impact on global climate than farting cows do.... But you can't tax a volcano can you? But you can tax steak!
Pollution is a separate problem and one that can have international consequences. In some ways its easier to speak directly to the people in different nations by using the greenie global warming speak, than to try and come up with bilateral or multilateral accords on pollution using just diplomatic chanels.
Ultimately the government support of the global warming crowd has always been about setting up a new false market in carbon credits to create a new cash cow for bureaucrats. And when those taxes hit get ready for a doubling or tripling of your energy costs.
Cap and trade will cost us dearly
families and workers would still have to pay $6.735 trillion into the system in the form of higher energy costs to get back an estimated $802 billion in tax relief. That’s a return of $1.00 for every $8.40 paid.
I'm sorry but when there is $6.7 trillion on the table to picked up by the government and even more money for other govts around the world, then I'm going to have to take the reports by all the govt sponsored scientists with a grain of salt.... a lime.... and a big ass glass of tequila.
IMO volcanoes have more impact on global climate than farting cows do.... But you can't tax a volcano can you? But you can tax steak!
Most scientists I know are atheists.... and it's climate change, geez. Some areas are cooling down due to it.usmarine wrote:
i dont care about global myth warming. lots of people who believe in global warming believe in religion. nuff said.
Love the nuff said though. I was going to use that line ^^
at least'd it'd kill manbearpigScorpion0x17 wrote:
Yeah, right, the pressure would just build and build until the whole world blew apart!Pubic wrote:
OMG...Al Gore has come up with a plan to plug volcanoes in order to stop global warning...I mean, come on!!
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap … index.html
i'm super cereal

http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/destruktion_6143 wrote:
the earth is flat.
/discuss
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'