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Adams_BJ wrote:

rh27 wrote:

Not to mention if this takes off the price of high end Video cards and the like will skyrocket.

(Less demand, less people buying new parts as soon as they come out will result in increased prices to try and cover the loss of profit).

Besides, the last thing you want in this economical climate is people spending less.

Less demand = lower price.

Why would people pay more for something that isn't in demand.

Look at gold and diamonds. Actually OIL. Look at OIL

When the economy is good and more people want and can afford it (demand) the price goes up. Now the economy is crashing and everything but oil is falling through the floor. FUCKING OIL

That's only some things. Look at software, when specialist software is made for a small audience, it costs thousands.

High end PC components cost a lot to develop, if they aren't selling the prices will go up, and then eventually the developers will go out of business.

rh27 wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

rh27 wrote:

Not to mention if this takes off the price of high end Video cards and the like will skyrocket.

(Less demand, less people buying new parts as soon as they come out will result in increased prices to try and cover the loss of profit).

Besides, the last thing you want in this economical climate is people spending less.

Less demand = lower price.

Why would people pay more for something that isn't in demand.

Look at gold and diamonds. Actually OIL. Look at OIL

When the economy is good and more people want and can afford it (demand) the price goes up. Now the economy is crashing and everything but oil is falling through the floor. FUCKING OIL

That's only some things. Look at software, when specialist software is made for a small audience, it costs thousands.

High end PC components cost a lot to develop, if they aren't selling the prices will go up, and then eventually the developers will go out of business.

Thats more to do with cost of production and the fact they have no competition.

Yeah I saw this on Gametrailers, I really like the idea, but unless you don't have a fast internet speed i don't see it working 100% well.
But still, i cannot wait to see how it works.

no piracy

Also it's available on PC, Mac and TV's.
7 years in the making apparently.

Imagine if the market is segmented, you get the cable industry, the phone companies and all the like. There were already some kind of gaming in the cable industry before but it was shitty games.  They have the power, I think, to localise players in a smaller area by ping detection.  Lag is reduced.  If you want to play with your buddy at the other end of the country then go PC. 

I read the article in diagonal but they were mentioning about PCs and Macs, you would still be localized but you could try a game before to buy it PC or play with your cousin, brother or best real life friend that's at the other end of the city.  Subway, McDonald's, Tim Horton, Sears, Coke & etc all have their local stores and how do you call that, concession, I think.  Servers would be in proximity, that could work.

Hardcore gamer would still be hanging to their PCs while the mass of non addicted gamers are still legion.  You buy the game, you own it and you don't pay more for it, unless like WOW and the like.

The question is, can this be self sustaining with the none console/PC people mass that don't want to invest much?

For the mouse and keyboard, what about a USB plug in the controler that will connect, lets say, a light mouse and a mini z-board?

It depends realy how they want to implement.  I think, IMHO, that the scenario I've explained can work.

Edit: spelling

Last edited by Jean_Peste_tu? (2009-03-27 19:19:00)

Somebody out of the present loop wants to make money simply.

Just saw the video of the press conference.
It showed them playing it online on software that was still being produced. It looked epic and I could not see much lag. And this will probably get ironed out once its fully developed. Only thing is I don't know if Sony or Microsoft would release their exclusive games such as God of War, Killzone, Gears of War , Halo etc.

This is another possible opportunity for non-physical services/information to be traded overseas as labor. If they require servers/individual PCs to process games for people online..why not outsource to where server management is cheaper.

My main problem with the whole thing is not so much lag but quota.

Internet quota size is small for me as i live in Australia and i'm poor. I see streaming 720p video or higher as something that would eat through my quota incredibly quickly. So i imagine it would affect others.

Freezer7Pro wrote:

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500kB/s? I WISH. This was one of the problems I saw, in England there's no such thing as unlimited internet plans, most of the ones that claim it have ridiculous bandwidth limits (usually 35GB or less). Also unless you're in a major city you can expect between 1mb and 8mb download speeds only - usually towards the 1mb.

I can't see this working here.

rh27 wrote:

Freezer7Pro wrote:

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500kB/s? I WISH. This was one of the problems I saw, in England there's no such thing as unlimited internet plans, most of the ones that claim it have ridiculous bandwidth limits (usually 35GB or less). Also unless you're in a major city you can expect between 1mb and 8mb download speeds only - usually towards the 1mb.

I can't see this working here.

Nonsense.

I have unlimited downloads and get 24Mb/1.3Mb down/up (well, that's what's advertised - it's more like 12Mb/1.25Mb in practice). There is a fair usage policy of course - but considering I download between 300-600GB/month, they can't be very strict about it.

Also, using clever lossless compression (or very low loss), you can get decent streaming 720p content over a normal connection.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-04-21 04:17:17)

Actual PC gaming:
real 1280x720 all the way up to glorious 2560x1600
60 frames per second if not higher
full graphics settings, or whatever you want
freedom of input method

OnLive:
compressed 1280x720 will look just lovely on my 26" monitor
30fps
they choose the graphics settings
shitty controller


oh boy I cant wait