BF2S Forums Immigration Laws (For everyone to respond to)

I agree.  Where I live we have a very quickly growing Latino community.  In fact, where I live, I'm a minority and English is the second language.  In fact, I've stopped going to most of the restaurants in my area because they continually get my order wrong because I can't order in Spanish.

I don't have a problem with immigration or immigrants, as long as they've done it legally.  If they are here on a visa or have obtained their green card, I say welcome to America.  Otherwise, I say they have no rights to dictate any legislation.

I think the government needs to start handling illegal workers the same way they started cracking down on prostitution.  Busting the hookers didn't work that well, so they started going after the "Johns".  By the same token I think they need to levy some heavy fines for employers that fail to properly confirm the legal status of the workers they hire.

We have politicians here who pander for the immigrant vote, by offering more and more programs to help them live off the fat of the land. It's like a plague over here. Back in the days, people used to immigrate to make a better life, avoid persecution, etc.... Now they come over here for free schooling, housing, medical care, and government handouts.

America is starting to look like a third world country.

And Schuss, we have NO TEST, because we can't control our borders, and nobody enforces our laws.

We have a program called The Minuteman Project, basically citizens who are pissed off patrol the borders on their own dime. Sad, because the more we have to do shot on our own, when we pay TAXES for the governemtn to do the work, the closer we get to revolt.

uhhh yeah we do require a test in order to become an american citizen.  Im the son of immigrants.

Yeah, I live in Georgia and am very happy about this bill.  Our local paper had a good rundown of what the bill would do, but I can't find anything online.  Basically, the laws in the US are too lax.  It is way to easy for illegal immigrants to stay in this country.  So a number of states are cracking down on illegal immigrants themselves.  The Georgia law (this is most of what it does):
1. Ensure that all employees who work for companies that have government contracts are lawfully in the country
2. Prohibit adult illegal immigrants from getting many public benefits
3. Financially penalize private employers who hire workers in the county unlawfully
4. Establish harsh penalties for human trafficking
5. Add a fee to wire money out of the country for anyone who cannot prove US residency (something like this)
Personally, I don't see anything wrong with these provisions.  THe only people who don't like them are the people who hire illegals (they can pay them less and get away with it) and the illegals themselves.  And of course Hispanic groups.  I find it amusing that Hispanic groups get all up in arms any time the gov't tries to crack down on illegal immigration.  Since I would assume that the majority of the people in these groups entered the country legally, I would think that they would be pissed that people are bypassing the system, when they did it the right way...  But that's just me...

Interesting. I am thinking of leaving California in the next few years, because I don't speak Spanish. Georgia sounds kinda cool.

Here in Holland, they check were the immigrants came from and if they really need to be here, if not and the home country is safe enough they will be send back. if not they can stay and need to make some test and speak dutch properly, past the test and they will get a pasport.

(maybe something is wrong, dont know it exactly how everthing works)

Im gonna give you the respect you deserve by not making my assumptions about your character public....im just gonna sit this one out man.

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

Im gonna give you the respect you deserve by not making my assumptions about your character public....im just gonna sit this one out man.

99% of what I say is for effect. I can guarantee whatever you are thinking is 100% incorrect. That's why I am curious what you have to say.

yes i love it..........they are going to protest their American right to live here illegally........ sighhhhhhhhhhhh...........give me strength

Myself and my family Immigrated here to the States, and let me tell you it was hard despite the fact that were white, middle class citizens of the U.K. (people that even my most xenophobic neighbors welcome with open arms), the way I see it you to get into the U.S. you either have to be so desperately poor that you will take the worst paying jobs and be willing to die crossing the border illegally, or you have to be making a ton of money already. Everyone else gets stuck in a long frustrating, process, to get in you really have to want it.

I have mixed feelings about people who come here illegally; on the one hand to think how awful their lives must have been that they would come here in often dangerous circumstances really makes me feel sorry for them. On the other they are a big problem, they can’t get health insurance so everyone else’s costs go up, they can’t get auto insurance but that doesn’t mean they won’t drive it just means that if they get in a crash everyone else has to pay. Also they have no real incentive to learn English since at any moment if they are caught they can be deported. I think more legal immigrants should be allowed in so that the smugglers will lose trade and because no matter how high a fence the U.S. builds people are going to keep coming as long, we may as well take some of the criminals out of the process.

As for the Hispanic groups protesting, I think that is just stupid, in my state and I suspect in yours illegal immigrants aren’t eligible for welfare, and thus they are stuck in a living hell well below the poverty line. The Hispanic groups should be campaigning to get the illegal immigrants already here legal status so they have some hope of improving their lives, not worrying about whether the government won’t employ them. All the illegal immigrants still coming into the country must mean that there are still jobs available so the newly displaced workers who can’t work for the government anymore should still be able to find work.

P.S. I’m sorry for ranting and my use of such atrocious grammar, its late, I’m tired, and it has been a surprisingly long day.

Tyferra wrote:

I dunno about this. The last thread on immigration turned into a one-on-one shit fight with me and xanthpi - but he's banned now isn't he, HA HA HAA!

My country's immigration laws are fine, in fact we need MORE people. We only have about 4,000,000 people, which isn't enough to make a decent economy. Unfortunatly there are politicians like Winston Peters, (Tthis guy makes politics worth keeping up with,) who want to stem the flow of people, (strangely enough, he gets the majority of the immigrant vote.)
It's a tricky subject here, because after all most people who consider themselves 'native' New Zealanders are acutally immigrants themselves who overtook the real native Maori population by mass immigration.
I for one am for keeping those whos ethnicity is "New Zealander", (Either New Zealand European or New Zealand Maori,) in the majority.

Asians are a big thing. There are so many asians. It can get quite frustrating because they tend to stick in groups of only asian people and only speak asian languages, but the few that want to mingle with everyone else are great, and I'm mates with many of them.
Still, I would mind it if asians became the absoloute majority - the "Asian invasion" scenario. I wouldn't mind a majority of immigrants if they came from all different nationalities, but all coming from one part of the world can be... worrying.

So yeah, anyone is welcome here, but remember, say 'Hello' to your new countrymen. We're pretty good people and don't mind immigrants, but what we do mind is if you come to our country and give us the cold shoulder. Meet us down at the pub, learn as much of our language as you can and practice the old New Zealand tradition of greasy Fish & Chips on Fridays with lashings of tomato sauce and a trusty six-pack by your side. You'll fit in in no time. Alcohol is good like that.



Edit: Closer inspection reveals that xanthpi is in fact no longer banned. Shit.

hey dont forget me buddy, I was involved in that shitfight with xanthpi too!! (on your side for the record)

SharkyMcshark wrote:

hey dont forget me buddy, I was involved in that shitfight with xanthpi too!! (on your side for the record)

Oh yeah that's right, (laughs,) that was classic.