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2009-03-16 07:24:08

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6952

Just watched this last night, and I quite enjoyed it. It wasn't the anti-Bush movie I was expecting, which was good IMO. It portrayed Bush in a fairly good light I felt, and seemed to be a lot more critical of people like Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. I found it interesting to learn a little about Bush's past; for example I didn't realise just how late he got into politics. Anyone else seen it, especially Bush fans? Did you like it or is it just the tree hugging lefty in me?

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2009-03-16 07:28:23

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6455|what

Was there much on Karl Rove?

2009-03-16 07:33:34

#3

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6952

Oh yeah, he's in it. As is Cheney, it definitely portrays him as being a driving force behind a lot of the bad ideas the Bush admin had.

EDIT: All the major players in the Bush government are in it, with people like Rice and Powell being the voice of reason, and well, pretty much everyone else going along with Cheney and Rove.

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2009-03-16 07:37:14

#4

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6455|what

ghettoperson wrote:
Oh yeah, he's in it. As is Cheney, it definitely portrays him as being a driving force behind a lot of the bad ideas the Bush admin had.

EDIT: All the major players in the Bush government are in it, with people like Rice and Powell being the voice of reason, and well, pretty much everyone else going along with Cheney and Rove.

Sounds very good, I'll go chase it up. Cheers.

2009-03-16 07:48:45

#5

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7064

It was good......but I would not add it to my collection so to speak. It's not one of those movies I could watch over and over again.

2009-03-16 08:09:09

#6

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6756|The Twilight Zone

The actor played the role of Bush with excellence. The movie was too short to tell the whole story though.

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2009-03-16 09:31:11

#7

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

I didn't think it was that great. Thandie Newton did a good job at playing Condi Rice though and Josh Brolin was pretty much spot-on.

Though I'm beginning to think I like Will Ferrell's W. a lot more. His show airs on Saturday. I can't wait.

2009-03-16 09:35:17

#8

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,983|6935|949

I haven't seen it, but I really have no desire to. To me GWB isn't so interesting that I need to watch a dramatization of his last 20 years. It's not like the movie was a documentary either, so it's not like you'd be able to notice some great insight or character flaw in him (GWB).

2009-03-16 09:51:27

#9

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6952

Meh, I was bored, I had some free bandwidth.

2009-03-16 10:07:15

#10

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6903|132 and Bush

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I haven't seen it, but I really have no desire to. To me GWB isn't so interesting that I need to watch a dramatization of his last 20 years. It's not like the movie was a documentary either, so it's not like you'd be able to notice some great insight or character flaw in him (GWB).

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2009-03-16 10:54:13

#11

..teddy..jimmy: Member; +1,393|6952

Seen it, enjoyed it.

2009-03-17 03:20:52

#12

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6714|'Murka

Kmarion wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I haven't seen it, but I really have no desire to. To me GWB isn't so interesting that I need to watch a dramatization of his last 20 years. It's not like the movie was a documentary either, so it's not like you'd be able to notice some great insight or character flaw in him (GWB).
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Would be interesting to know any sourcing Stone used to make the film. If it's just his impression/opinion of how things went down, then it's about as much of a documentary as any Michael Moore film.

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2009-03-17 03:48:28

#13

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6455|what

FEOS wrote:
Would be interesting to know any sourcing Stone used to make the film. If it's just his impression/opinion of how things went down, then it's about as much of a documentary as any Michael Moore film.

That's true. I enjoyed watching Frost v Nixon, and W has been pretty good so far.

2009-03-17 05:27:12

#14

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6952

FEOS wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I haven't seen it, but I really have no desire to. To me GWB isn't so interesting that I need to watch a dramatization of his last 20 years. It's not like the movie was a documentary either, so it's not like you'd be able to notice some great insight or character flaw in him (GWB).
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Would be interesting to know any sourcing Stone used to make the film. If it's just his impression/opinion of how things went down, then it's about as much of a documentary as any Michael Moore film.

Yeah that was something I was quite curious about as well.

2009-03-17 10:01:37

#15

JahManRed: wank; +646|6931|IRELAND

Clinton inspired porno, so I guess Bush wins on this count.

2009-03-17 14:02:39

#16

kylef: Gone; +1,352|6796|N. Ireland

I was aware of the necessity of Iraq but never knew some of the facts the film gave. It was quite good, but dragged on at parts.

2009-03-18 07:18:23

#17

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6593|Éire

I agree that the film portrays Bush in a somewhat positive light, it humanises him rather than simply pointing out all of his epic failures. I liked how it addressed the way in which he hijacked his brother Jeb's political aspirations... let's face it, there will never be another President Bush in the United States in our lifetime. The film was quite good but nothing spectacular. I did like the slightly cryptic ending - Bush waiting in the outfield for a pitch that never comes.

2009-03-18 07:25:39

#18

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6455|what

Just finished it. I was disappointed it ending during the year 2004.

The film did humanise him and you did feel sympathy, but whenever there was a Bushism it was always taken out of context and used in another scene which for me was off putting. That was the case in all but one scene, where he had the interview and was asked about any regrets and stumbled accurately to the event.

2009-03-18 10:25:21

#19

Ajax_the_Great1: Dropped on request; +206|6949

Bunch of liberals playing a bunch of conservatives with a liberal director portraying a conservative president. You know it's gonna be good.

I might have seen it for a laugh or two but you can't take it's message seriously.

2009-03-18 11:17:24

#20

Lotta_Drool: Spit; +350|6486|Ireland

Braddock wrote:
let's face it, there will never be another President Bush in the United States in our lifetime.

ummm, don't be so sure. It has yet to be seen how history will tell the tail of W. Bush.

Just wait until Obama cuts defense and ends the war on terror just to have the M.E. blow up causing a true energy crisis and a major attack take place in America. Then we'll see who the true idiots are from the W. era.

meh, why the fuck do I bother and try to reason with a mutton man? He is probably drunk and busy fondling his leprechaun's bag o' lucky charms anyway.

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2009-03-18 16:43:14

#21

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6708|North Carolina

Lotta_Drool wrote:
Braddock wrote:
let's face it, there will never be another President Bush in the United States in our lifetime.
ummm, don't be so sure. It has yet to be seen how history will tell the tail of W. Bush.

Just wait until Obama cuts defense and ends the war on terror just to have the M.E. blow up causing a true energy crisis and a major attack take place in America. Then we'll see who the true idiots are from the W. era.

meh, why the fuck do I bother and try to reason with a mutton man? He is probably drunk and busy fondling his leprechaun's bag o' lucky charms anyway.

You do realize Obama has actually stepped up the war in Afghanistan, right? He's not exactly the isolationist you seem to think he is.

2009-03-18 17:49:14

#22

Lotta_Drool: Spit; +350|6486|Ireland

Turquoise wrote:
Lotta_Drool wrote:
Braddock wrote:
let's face it, there will never be another President Bush in the United States in our lifetime.
ummm, don't be so sure. It has yet to be seen how history will tell the tail of W. Bush.

Just wait until Obama cuts defense and ends the war on terror just to have the M.E. blow up causing a true energy crisis and a major attack take place in America. Then we'll see who the true idiots are from the W. era.

meh, why the fuck do I bother and try to reason with a mutton man? He is probably drunk and busy fondling his leprechaun's bag o' lucky charms anyway.
You do realize Obama has actually stepped up the war in Afghanistan, right? He's not exactly the isolationist you seem to think he is.

Obama brings our troops home, to Afghanistan. It made the papers:

http://gto7.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/ob … ghanistan/

2009-03-18 18:26:35

#23

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6708|North Carolina

Lotta_Drool wrote:
Turquoise wrote:
Lotta_Drool wrote:

ummm, don't be so sure. It has yet to be seen how history will tell the tail of W. Bush.

Just wait until Obama cuts defense and ends the war on terror just to have the M.E. blow up causing a true energy crisis and a major attack take place in America. Then we'll see who the true idiots are from the W. era.

meh, why the fuck do I bother and try to reason with a mutton man? He is probably drunk and busy fondling his leprechaun's bag o' lucky charms anyway.
You do realize Obama has actually stepped up the war in Afghanistan, right? He's not exactly the isolationist you seem to think he is.
Obama brings our troops home, to Afghanistan. It made the papers:

http://gto7.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/ob … ghanistan/

Wow... great source there.

2009-03-19 02:46:12

#24

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6593|Éire

Lotta_Drool wrote:
Braddock wrote:
let's face it, there will never be another President Bush in the United States in our lifetime.
ummm, don't be so sure. It has yet to be seen how history will tell the tail of W. Bush.

Just wait until Obama cuts defense and ends the war on terror just to have the M.E. blow up causing a true energy crisis and a major attack take place in America. Then we'll see who the true idiots are from the W. era.

meh, why the fuck do I bother and try to reason with a mutton man? He is probably drunk and busy fondling his leprechaun's bag o' lucky charms anyway.

What is it with you and the mutton comments? Potatoes I can appreciate, but mutton?

Your comments are hilarious, I get the impression you'd happily sacrifice a few thousand American lives just for the pleasure of being able to say "I told you so". How's about you focus some of the cash used for foreign aggression on developing a secure border and protecting your homeland? ...of course not, that would make far too much sense.

2009-03-19 02:48:01

#25

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6593|Éire

Turquoise wrote:
Lotta_Drool wrote:
Turquoise wrote:

You do realize Obama has actually stepped up the war in Afghanistan, right? He's not exactly the isolationist you seem to think he is.
Obama brings our troops home, to Afghanistan. It made the papers:

http://gto7.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/ob … ghanistan/
Wow... great source there.

Lol... he's outdone himself with that one! Move over lowing, there's a new player in town and he's after your tinfoil hat.

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