ATG
Banned
+5,233|6832|Global Command
If this is not the first, it is a rarity.  In which case, my bad.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/188565/output/print


Establishment grumbles include;


    *  The $787 billion stimulus, gargantuan as it was, was in fact too small and not aimed clearly enough at only immediate job-creation.
    * The $275 billion home-mortgage-refinancing plan, assembled by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, is too complex and indirect.
    * The president gave up the moral high ground on spending not so much with the "stim" but with the $400 billion supplemental spending bill, larded as it was with 9,000 earmarks.
    * The administration is throwing good money after bad in at least two cases—the sinkhole that is Citigroup (there are many healthy banks) and General Motors (they deserve what they get).
    * The failure to call for genuine sacrifice on the part of all Americans, despite the rhetorical claim that everyone would have to "give up" something.
    * A willingness to give too much leeway to Congress to handle crucial details, from the stim to the vague promise to "reform" medical care without stating what costs could be cut.
    * A 2010 budget that tries to do far too much, with way too rosy predictions on future revenues and growth of the economy. This led those who fear we are about to go over Niagara Falls to deride Obama as a paddler who'd rather redesign the canoe.
    * A treasury secretary who has been ridiculed on "Saturday Night Live" and compared to Doogie Howser, Barney Fife and Macaulay Culkin in "Home Alone"—and those are the nice ones.
    * A seeming paralysis in the face of the banking crisis: unwilling to nationalize banks, yet unable to figure out how to handle toxic assets in another way—by, say, setting up a "bad bank" catch basin.
    * A seeming reluctance to seek punishing prosecutions of the malefactors of the last 15 years—and even considering a plea bargain for Bernie Madoff, the poster thief who stole from charities and Nobel laureates and all the grandparents of Boca. Yes, prosecutors are in charge, but the president is entitled—some would say required—to demand harsh justice.
    * The president, known for his eloquence and attention to detail, seemingly unwilling or unable to patiently, carefully explain how the world works—or more important, how it failed. Using FDR's fireside chats as a model, Obama needs to explain the banking system in laymen's terms. An ongoing seminar would be great.
    * Obama is no socialist, but critics argue that now is not the time for costly, upfront spending on social engineering in health care, energy or education.
Deadmonkiefart
Floccinaucinihilipilificator
+177|7009
The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.
That's a laugh.  Yea, were all going to start hating Obama when the opinions start to trickle down from the Big people.  Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7019
The people already know he's not doing well... A lot of people that voted for the messiah are having buyers remorse but can't admit yet that the guy they voted for is a community organizer.... with a couple of years time in the senate... where he voted present rather than yes or no a majority of the time... I'm betting by mid to late summer BO's numbers will be approaching the approval rating of congress...
Love is the answer
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7071

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

The people already know he's not doing well... A lot of people that voted for the messiah are having buyers remorse but can't admit yet that the guy they voted for is a community organizer.... with a couple of years time in the senate... where he voted present rather than yes or no a majority of the time... I'm betting by mid to late summer BO's numbers will be approaching the approval rating of congress...
he needs to start a war
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|6005|College Park, MD

BN wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

The people already know he's not doing well... A lot of people that voted for the messiah are having buyers remorse but can't admit yet that the guy they voted for is a community organizer.... with a couple of years time in the senate... where he voted present rather than yes or no a majority of the time... I'm betting by mid to late summer BO's numbers will be approaching the approval rating of congress...
he needs to start a war
great idea. maybe he should take lessons from bush
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AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6456|what

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

great idea. maybe he should take lessons from bush
Snr or Jr?
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Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7019

BN wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

The people already know he's not doing well... A lot of people that voted for the messiah are having buyers remorse but can't admit yet that the guy they voted for is a community organizer.... with a couple of years time in the senate... where he voted present rather than yes or no a majority of the time... I'm betting by mid to late summer BO's numbers will be approaching the approval rating of congress...
he needs to start a war
The rest of the world knows he's a paper tiger... war isn't necessary anymore... just some complaints or whining and the other countries will get whatever they want from BO... and a hug if they want?
Love is the answer
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6771

AussieReaper wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

great idea. maybe he should take lessons from bush
Snr or Jr?
i c wat u did that
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6486|Ireland
When the dems get me down I just picture obama and pelosi having sex and it makes me smile.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.
That's a laugh.  Yea, were all going to start hating Obama when the opinions start to trickle down from the Big people.  Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Nope, we can't, that is why we tie our carts to celebrities ( like Obama). We need Oprah to tell us who to vote for, we need our favorite NASCAR driver to tell us what motor oil to use. We need a basketball player to tell us what shoes to wear. Why do you think Bono and all of these celebrities are so successful in their pet causes? It certainly is not because they are experts in the fields they represent. They are the ones with the following, and the "experts" use them to swing opinions in their favor.

We are sheep
Varegg
Support fanatic :-)
+2,206|7113|Nårvei

lowing wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.
That's a laugh.  Yea, were all going to start hating Obama when the opinions start to trickle down from the Big people.  Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Nope, we can't, that is why we tie our carts to celebrities ( like Obama). We need Oprah to tell us who to vote for, we need our favorite NASCAR driver to tell us what motor oil to use. We need a basketball player to tell us what shoes to wear. Why do you think Bono and all of these celebrities are so successful in their pet causes? It certainly is not because they are experts in the fields they represent. They are the ones with the following, and the "experts" use them to swing opinions in their favor.

We are sheep
And what about those that like Obama no matter what retarded celebrities say or mean?

I find it hard to believe half the votes went Obamas way because of Oprah and her celebrity mafia ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:


That's a laugh.  Yea, were all going to start hating Obama when the opinions start to trickle down from the Big people.  Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Nope, we can't, that is why we tie our carts to celebrities ( like Obama). We need Oprah to tell us who to vote for, we need our favorite NASCAR driver to tell us what motor oil to use. We need a basketball player to tell us what shoes to wear. Why do you think Bono and all of these celebrities are so successful in their pet causes? It certainly is not because they are experts in the fields they represent. They are the ones with the following, and the "experts" use them to swing opinions in their favor.

We are sheep
And what about those that like Obama no matter what retarded celebrities say or mean?

I find it hard to believe half the votes went Obamas way because of Oprah and her celebrity mafia ...
THere is a reason Obama was made into a celebrity. They had to find a way to divert attention from the fact that he has no experience, and he has highly questionable friends, and the fact that he is nothing other than a typical Chicago politician. Our celbrity worship was just the thing they needed, and it worked. Now that the hype is over and the drug is wearing off, they are all starting to wonder what the fuck they just did?
CC-Marley
Member
+407|7131
Well said Lowing.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Well, that was kind of evidenced by the fact that we elected Bush twice.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6750|Chicago, IL

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.
That's a laugh.  Yea, were all going to start hating Obama when the opinions start to trickle down from the Big people.  Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
They cant, that's why televangelism and baseless pander win the day every time.

People like me and my family who were responsible with our money and didn't get foreclosed on are now getting screwed by housing values because of the idiocy of everyone else, and Obama has no plans to reward us, only the irresponsible ones.  That's why we're so pissed off.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6840|Long Island, New York

Turquoise wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Well, that was kind of evidenced by the fact that we elected Bush twice.
^^^

Not that Kerry was much better...if at all.

Last edited by Poseidon (2009-03-12 10:43:46)

FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6714|'Murka

Turquoise wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Well, that was kind of evidenced by the fact that we elected Bush twice.
Actually, that proves the opposite, considering the push Kerry got from the press in 04.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6924|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Well, that was kind of evidenced by the fact that we elected Bush twice.
Well actually the majority of Americans didn't vote Bush the first time.

Yeah that's right, I said it. Time to derail this topic, like a horse
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6714|'Murka

Mekstizzle wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
Well, that was kind of evidenced by the fact that we elected Bush twice.
Well actually the majority of Americans didn't vote Bush the first time.

Yeah that's right, I said it. Time to derail this topic, like a horse
Derailing with an irrelevant point?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6924|London, England
No it's not that irrelevant, you guys were already talking about Bush and electing him and how stupid you all are, the relevancy to the topic was long gone

It's irrelevant to you because .....because it is.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-03-12 11:26:47)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

FEOS wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Well, that was kind of evidenced by the fact that we elected Bush twice.
Well actually the majority of Americans didn't vote Bush the first time.

Yeah that's right, I said it. Time to derail this topic, like a horse
Derailing with an irrelevant point?
Nah, it actually is relevant.

I suppose I have to retract my statement because of that.
topthrill05
Member
+125|6881|Rochester NY USA

S.Lythberg wrote:

Deadmonkiefart wrote:

The American people remain on his side, but he has to be careful that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn't trickle down to the rest of us.
That's a laugh.  Yea, were all going to start hating Obama when the opinions start to trickle down from the Big people.  Apparently the majority of Americans can't think for themselves.
They cant, that's why televangelism and baseless pander win the day every time.

People like me and my family who were responsible with our money and didn't get foreclosed on are now getting screwed by housing values because of the idiocy of everyone else, and Obama has no plans to reward us, only the irresponsible ones.  That's why we're so pissed off.
But there are many, many people just like you who are responsible that still got screwed over in one way or another. They need help and if you needed help I'm sure there's relief somewhere. People abuse any system its not anything new.

If you don't think the government should do anything then I guess it's a mute point.

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