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Just about. Fucking cowards.Macbeth wrote:
Suicide is one thing, but taking all those innocent people with you is unnecessary.
Damn straight! Active/mass shooters piss me off.Poseidon wrote:
Just about. Fucking cowards.Macbeth wrote:
Suicide is one thing, but taking all those innocent people with you is unnecessary.
And the inevitable "if the German populace had guns then the gunmen wouldn't have been able to carry it out because someone would have shot him" arguments.FEOS wrote:
I thought the story was about the shooting in Germany.
Should prove an interesting comparison for the inevitable "guns are bad, the US needs more restrictive gun laws" arguments that will come up.
Then why the fuck didn't it happen in Alabama? I thought Alabama would've been one of those places where fucking everyone has a gun, no? Where's superhero Parker-et-all coming to save the dayPureFodder wrote:
And the inevitable "if the German populace had guns then the gunmen wouldn't have been able to carry it out because someone would have shot him" arguments.FEOS wrote:
I thought the story was about the shooting in Germany.
Should prove an interesting comparison for the inevitable "guns are bad, the US needs more restrictive gun laws" arguments that will come up.
You can't stop disturbed people from doing disturbing things. The best you can do is provide multiple layers of preventative and reactive security.Mekstizzle wrote:
Then why the fuck didn't it happen in Alabama? I thought Alabama would've been one of those places where fucking everyone has a gun, no? Where's superhero Parker-et-all coming to save the dayPureFodder wrote:
And the inevitable "if the German populace had guns then the gunmen wouldn't have been able to carry it out because someone would have shot him" arguments.FEOS wrote:
I thought the story was about the shooting in Germany.
Should prove an interesting comparison for the inevitable "guns are bad, the US needs more restrictive gun laws" arguments that will come up.
Oh well, you can't stop a crazy motherfucker from doing something if he really wanted to.
Just to stir the pot a bit...Mekstizzle wrote:
Exactly, strict gun laws vs no gun laws and the same shit has happened. It's all about the people, and there are just some crazy bastards out there
Here is a glance at some of the worst school shootings in recent years:
* Sept. 23, 2008: Matti Saari, 22, killed nine fellow students and a teacher before shooting himself at a vocational school in Kauhajoki, Finland.
* Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opens fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.
* Nov. 7, 2007: Pekka-Eric Auvinen, 18, shoots and kills eight people and himself at a high school in Tuusula, Finland.
* April 16, 2007: Cho Seung-Hui, 23, fatally shoots 32 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, then kills himself in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
* Nov. 20, 2006: Sebastian Bosse, 18, goes on a rampage at his former high school in Emsdetten, Germany, near the Dutch border, shooting and injuring four students and the school janitor. Police commandos later found Bosse dead.
* April 26, 2002: Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, previously expelled from a school in Erfurt, Germany, kills 13 teachers, two former classmates and a policeman, before committing suicide.
* April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold open fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before committing suicide in the school's library.
* March 13, 1996: Thomas Hamilton, 43, killed 16 kindergarten children and their teacher in Dunblane, Scotland, and then killed himself.
One could say that in a 12 year span only 7 school shooting in Europe is due to a the amount of good gun control. Over the last 12 years how many school shooting have happened in the U.S.? According to Wikipedia 35 in the U.S. over the last 12 years. If I counted right.FEOS wrote:
Just to stir the pot a bit...Mekstizzle wrote:
Exactly, strict gun laws vs no gun laws and the same shit has happened. It's all about the people, and there are just some crazy bastards out there
Good thing that Europe has all those more restrictive gun control laws that keep stuff like that from happening.
Oh wai-
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29632127/
Here is a glance at some of the worst school shootings in recent years:
* Sept. 23, 2008: Matti Saari, 22, killed nine fellow students and a teacher before shooting himself at a vocational school in Kauhajoki, Finland.
* Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opens fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.
* Nov. 7, 2007: Pekka-Eric Auvinen, 18, shoots and kills eight people and himself at a high school in Tuusula, Finland.
* April 16, 2007: Cho Seung-Hui, 23, fatally shoots 32 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, then kills himself in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
* Nov. 20, 2006: Sebastian Bosse, 18, goes on a rampage at his former high school in Emsdetten, Germany, near the Dutch border, shooting and injuring four students and the school janitor. Police commandos later found Bosse dead.
* April 26, 2002: Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, previously expelled from a school in Erfurt, Germany, kills 13 teachers, two former classmates and a policeman, before committing suicide.
* April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold open fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before committing suicide in the school's library.
* March 13, 1996: Thomas Hamilton, 43, killed 16 kindergarten children and their teacher in Dunblane, Scotland, and then killed himself.
Finland, with 56 guns per 100 people isn't an example of restrictive gun laws. It's an example of what happens without restrictive gun laws.FEOS wrote:
Just to stir the pot a bit...Mekstizzle wrote:
Exactly, strict gun laws vs no gun laws and the same shit has happened. It's all about the people, and there are just some crazy bastards out there
Good thing that Europe has all those more restrictive gun control laws that keep stuff like that from happening.
Oh wai-
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29632127/
Here is a glance at some of the worst school shootings in recent years:
* Sept. 23, 2008: Matti Saari, 22, killed nine fellow students and a teacher before shooting himself at a vocational school in Kauhajoki, Finland.
* Feb. 14, 2008: Former student Steven Kazmierczak, 27, opens fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, fatally shooting five students and wounding 18 others before committing suicide.
* Nov. 7, 2007: Pekka-Eric Auvinen, 18, shoots and kills eight people and himself at a high school in Tuusula, Finland.
* April 16, 2007: Cho Seung-Hui, 23, fatally shoots 32 people in a dorm and a classroom at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, then kills himself in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history.
* Nov. 20, 2006: Sebastian Bosse, 18, goes on a rampage at his former high school in Emsdetten, Germany, near the Dutch border, shooting and injuring four students and the school janitor. Police commandos later found Bosse dead.
* April 26, 2002: Robert Steinhaeuser, 19, previously expelled from a school in Erfurt, Germany, kills 13 teachers, two former classmates and a policeman, before committing suicide.
* April 20, 1999: Students Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold open fire at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, killing 12 classmates and a teacher and wounding 26 others before committing suicide in the school's library.
* March 13, 1996: Thomas Hamilton, 43, killed 16 kindergarten children and their teacher in Dunblane, Scotland, and then killed himself.
I like the way this man thinks. It's just crazy enough to work. And anybody we find committing muder...why...we'll give them sentences that could never be served, no better! We'll just kill them too!. Get it?RAIMIUS wrote:
One man murders someone with a firearm, therefore we need to ban most firearms.
Should we ban murder too? That should solve the problem.
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so a bow doesn't serve a singular purpose?Pochsy wrote:
EDIT- If you want to hunt do it like a man and use a bow.
It serves the same purpose in a package that is both 30 times larger and takes far longer to reload. If your good enough to kill a room of people with a bow before you get jumped you deserved the rampage anyways, because your Rambo.Reciprocity wrote:
so a bow doesn't serve a singular purpose?Pochsy wrote:
EDIT- If you want to hunt do it like a man and use a bow.
This has nothing to do with gun laws.PureFodder wrote:
Finland, with 56 guns per 100 people isn't an example of restrictive gun laws. It's an example of what happens without restrictive gun laws.
Dunblane killings occured before the handgun ban in Britain with legally owned weapons, again showing the problems with widespread gun ownership, not resrictions.
oh, so it's not the purpose, it's the efficiency.Pochsy wrote:
It serves the same purpose in a package that is both 30 times larger and takes far longer to reload. If your good enough to kill a room of people with a bow before you get jumped you deserved the rampage anyways, because your Rambo.Reciprocity wrote:
so a bow doesn't serve a singular purpose?Pochsy wrote:
EDIT- If you want to hunt do it like a man and use a bow.
It's the singular purpose coupled with the efficiency. My turkey carver is 20 times faster at cutting than a normal knife, but I would not consider it an item to be banned for it's efficiency even though it would easily hack a person apart. Chainsaw falls into the same category.Reciprocity wrote:
oh, so it's not the purpose, it's the efficiency.Pochsy wrote:
It serves the same purpose in a package that is both 30 times larger and takes far longer to reload. If your good enough to kill a room of people with a bow before you get jumped you deserved the rampage anyways, because your Rambo.Reciprocity wrote:
so a bow doesn't serve a singular purpose?
Last edited by Pochsy (2009-03-15 17:31:23)
yep, you're right. guns do serve my sigulary puprose, defense, very efficiently. Especially, since, as you point out, throwing stars and knives are appearantly illegal, I'm left to defend myself against only gun equipped criminals.Pochsy wrote:
It's the singular purpose coupled with the efficiency.