ATG
Banned
+5,233|6832|Global Command

Poseidon wrote:

Sweet, chain e-mails.

Can I post one about how if you scroll down really fast your wish will come true?
no.
Diesel_dyk
Object in mirror will feel larger than it appears
+178|6297|Truthistan
What garbage? Us and them red/blue state lipstick on a pitbull pig type trash

Here's a response

How about we make you our bitch and tax your a$$.

Its funny that all is grand when the red state candidate wins the election and everyone is told that we must follow the presidents lead. But elect a blue state candidate and whoa are these guys chaffing. You would think that they just lost the civil war all over again. The American public elected Obama and he has a 60% approval rating so just deal with it. One thing is for sure its going to take alot of work to undo the 25 years of failed Reaganomics.

Here's what a Republican't South Carolina convention will look like if we don't solve the the issues of selfish self interest that has lead to the degradation of the education and health care systems. I believe that this convention was brought to you by FOX News.




Don't send hate mail, I just call like I see it in the no spin zone.
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|7017|US
NO!

I like both my firearms and my Subaru!
I guess I'll just have to declare dual Citizenship between USA A and USA B.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5888

lowing wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

After rereading it, I've changed my mind. Apparently all of the religious are going with the conservatives. I support that as well as the rest of his ideas. As long as the EU lets NJ join them after we've purged all of the Conservative Christians.
Fantastic, just what the EU needs, a state, that when it rains, makes it own gravy.
I'm a little slow today everyday, could you explain the joke to me in great detail?
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5914|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

DonFck wrote:

We will continue to believe that healthcare is a privilege and not a right
You go, nazi boy!
The Nazis wanted Nationalized Healthcare, so that is not a Nazi remark.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6456|what

nickb64 wrote:

DonFck wrote:

We will continue to believe that healthcare is a privilege and not a right
You go, nazi boy!
The Nazis wanted Nationalized Healthcare, so that is not a Nazi remark.
What? It offered great health care for Jews, Poles, gypsies, homeless and retarded?

I doubt it.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6978|Canberra, AUS

nickb64 wrote:

DonFck wrote:

We will continue to believe that healthcare is a privilege and not a right
You go, nazi boy!
The Nazis wanted Nationalized Healthcare, so that is not a Nazi remark.
If you can call it 'healthcare'.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6968|NT, like Mick Dundee

AussieReaper wrote:

nickb64 wrote:

DonFck wrote:


You go, nazi boy!
The Nazis wanted Nationalized Healthcare, so that is not a Nazi remark.
What? It offered great health care for Jews, Poles, gypsies, homeless and retarded?

I doubt it.
You forgot the homosexuals and communists. They had a right old time in Nazi Germany, with the awesome social programs that were available to all who needed them.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

Diesel_dyk wrote:

What garbage? Us and them red/blue state lipstick on a pitbull pig type trash

Here's a response

How about we make you our bitch and tax your a$$.

Its funny that all is grand when the red state candidate wins the election and everyone is told that we must follow the presidents lead. But elect a blue state candidate and whoa are these guys chaffing. You would think that they just lost the civil war all over again. The American public elected Obama and he has a 60% approval rating so just deal with it. One thing is for sure its going to take alot of work to undo the 25 years of failed Reaganomics.

Here's what a Republican't South Carolina convention will look like if we don't solve the the issues of selfish self interest that has lead to the degradation of the education and health care systems. I believe that this convention was brought to you by FOX News.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ULZwzF9 … re=related


Don't send hate mail, I just call like I see it in the no spin zone.
Not really sure where you are getting "failed" Reaganomics. Under Reagan our country prospered and we peaked as a society.

You are going to learn the heard way, you keep fuckin with the rich, taxing the fuck out of them, punishing them for achievment, and they are gunna go find somewhere else to play. Believe me, we need the rich for building wayyyyyyyyyyyy more than we need the welfare crowd sucking them dry.
xBlackPantherx
Grow up, or die
+142|6646|California
Oh god, another Lowing-being-stubborn-about-his-bullshit-views-and-everyone-calling-him-out threads.

I can't really accept the fact you:

lowing wrote:

I like the premise, of it. Sure we will be a divided nation, and no longer a union, but it is better to cut off the gangrenous limb then let the patient die ( applies to whatever your political point of view).

DonFck wrote:

Yes, I'm a leftist, I'm an achiever and I'm fucking smart.

The letter is idiocy incarnated. Allow me to give you one, just one example of many:
And since you hate guns and you hate war, we'll take the firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.
Wait, who's paying for them? In this magical land in the letter, nobody's paying any taxes.

Spark wrote:

Wow, what a douchebag that guy is. Why didn't he just say "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY" and be done?
nickb64
formerly from OC (it's EXACTLY like on tv)[truth]
+77|5914|Greatest Nation on Earth(USA)

Flecco wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

nickb64 wrote:


The Nazis wanted Nationalized Healthcare, so that is not a Nazi remark.
What? It offered great health care for Jews, Poles, gypsies, homeless and retarded?

I doubt it.
You forgot the homosexuals and communists. They had a right old time in Nazi Germany, with the awesome social programs that were available to all who needed them.
The Nazi Party originally called for this in their "25 points", basically Nationalized Healthcare and Physical Education for the people: 21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6968|NT, like Mick Dundee

nickb64 wrote:

Flecco wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


What? It offered great health care for Jews, Poles, gypsies, homeless and retarded?

I doubt it.
You forgot the homosexuals and communists. They had a right old time in Nazi Germany, with the awesome social programs that were available to all who needed them.
The Nazi Party originally called for this in their "25 points", basically Nationalized Healthcare and Physical Education for the people: 21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
What's the difference between excluding people by race and excluding them by class?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6952
lol

If this happened we'd have a part 2 to the forming of a North and South Korea just based in America.

On reading this I can quite honestly say that the democrats are fucked with the share they receive.

Last edited by ..teddy..jimmy (2009-03-07 02:58:01)

lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

xBlackPantherx wrote:

Oh god, another Lowing-being-stubborn-about-his-bullshit-views-and-everyone-calling-him-out threads.

I can't really accept the fact you:

lowing wrote:

I like the premise, of it. Sure we will be a divided nation, and no longer a union, but it is better to cut off the gangrenous limb then let the patient die ( applies to whatever your political point of view).

DonFck wrote:

Yes, I'm a leftist, I'm an achiever and I'm fucking smart.

The letter is idiocy incarnated. Allow me to give you one, just one example of many:
And since you hate guns and you hate war, we'll take the firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military.
Wait, who's paying for them? In this magical land in the letter, nobody's paying any taxes.

Spark wrote:

Wow, what a douchebag that guy is. Why didn't he just say "GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY COUNTRY" and be done?
Feel free not to post in this thread if you are offended.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6456|what

lowing wrote:

Feel free not to post in this thread if you are offended.
Feel free to leave America if you don't like Socialism.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Feel free not to post in this thread if you are offended.
Feel free to leave America if you don't like Socialism.
Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6884|SE London

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Feel free not to post in this thread if you are offended.
Feel free to leave America if you don't like Socialism.
Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Socialism involves providing for your citizens. There is nothing in the US constitution preventing that. In fact it is encouraged.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6803|so randum

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Feel free not to post in this thread if you are offended.
Feel free to leave America if you don't like Socialism.
Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Just wondering

In your head, how large is the gap between common western socialism, and communism?
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


Feel free to leave America if you don't like Socialism.
Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Socialism involves providing for your citizens. There is nothing in the US constitution preventing that. In fact it is encouraged.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Lets see, it "ESTABLISHED" Justice, it "ENSURES" domestic tranquility, and it "PROVIDES" for the common defense, any guesses as to why it does not ESTABLISH,ENSURE or PROVIDE general welfare. Because it doesn't, it only promotes it, IE, encourages you to provide for yourself.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:


Feel free to leave America if you don't like Socialism.
Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Just wondering

In your head, how large is the gap between common western socialism, and communism?
Lets see,

a govt. in control over the private sector

a govt. telling its citizens what it can have and what is too much

a govt. that spreads the wealth around to make everything equal for all

a govt. that wants to silence dissent.


I dunno, I'll bite, just how wide is that gap?
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6803|so randum

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:


Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Just wondering

In your head, how large is the gap between common western socialism, and communism?
Lets see,

a govt. in control over the private sector

a govt. telling its citizens what it can have and what is too much

a govt. that spreads the wealth around to make everything equal for all

a govt. that wants to silence dissent.


I dunno, I'll bite, just how wide is that gap?
Oh no, i wasn't trying to make a point, twas just curiosity.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

FatherTed wrote:

lowing wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


Just wondering

In your head, how large is the gap between common western socialism, and communism?
Lets see,

a govt. in control over the private sector

a govt. telling its citizens what it can have and what is too much

a govt. that spreads the wealth around to make everything equal for all

a govt. that wants to silence dissent.


I dunno, I'll bite, just how wide is that gap?
Oh no, i wasn't trying to make a point, twas just curiosity.
lol, so was I. If ya missed it, I do not think that gap is very wide at all.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6884|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Socialism involves providing for your citizens. There is nothing in the US constitution preventing that. In fact it is encouraged.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, ensure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Lets see, it "ESTABLISHED" Justice, it "ENSURES" domestic tranquility, and it "PROVIDES" for the common defense, any guesses as to why it does not ESTABLISH,ENSURE or PROVIDE general welfare. Because it doesn't, it only promotes it, IE, encourages you to provide for yourself.
promote verb (promoted, promoting) 1 a to raise someone to a more senior position; b sport, especially football to transfer (a team) to a higher division or league.Compare relegate (sense 2). 2 to contribute to something • Exercise promotes health. 3 to work for the cause of something • promote peace. 4 to publicize; to try to boost the sales of (a product) by advertising. 5 to organize or finance (an undertaking). 6 chess to upgrade (a pawn that has reached the opponent's side of the board) to a higher rank. promotion noun. promotional adj.

Oh dear. Yet another example of lowing not understanding what words mean.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6954|USA

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Actually that is not how it works, we have a Constitution that is supposed to protect us from the big govt. that is now attempting to take over and run our lives. This is not over, more and more people including democrats are waking up and starting to see the monster that they have created in electing this Marxist asshole.
Socialism involves providing for your citizens. There is nothing in the US constitution preventing that. In fact it is encouraged.


Lets see, it "ESTABLISHED" Justice, it "ENSURES" domestic tranquility, and it "PROVIDES" for the common defense, any guesses as to why it does not ESTABLISH,ENSURE or PROVIDE general welfare. Because it doesn't, it only promotes it, IE, encourages you to provide for yourself.
promote verb (promoted, promoting) 1 a to raise someone to a more senior position; b sport, especially football to transfer (a team) to a higher division or league.Compare relegate (sense 2). 2 to contribute to something • Exercise promotes health. 3 to work for the cause of something • promote peace. 4 to publicize; to try to boost the sales of (a product) by advertising. 5 to organize or finance (an undertaking). 6 chess to upgrade (a pawn that has reached the opponent's side of the board) to a higher rank. promotion noun. promotional adj.

Oh dear. Yet another example of lowing not understanding what words mean.
Nice try, but let me make it simple. In the context of the Constitution, "promote" does not mean guarantee. Just like promoting exercising, does not guarantee health. Good example by the way...Thank you for the help.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6884|SE London

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Lets see, it "ESTABLISHED" Justice, it "ENSURES" domestic tranquility, and it "PROVIDES" for the common defense, any guesses as to why it does not ESTABLISH,ENSURE or PROVIDE general welfare. Because it doesn't, it only promotes it, IE, encourages you to provide for yourself.
promote verb (promoted, promoting) 1 a to raise someone to a more senior position; b sport, especially football to transfer (a team) to a higher division or league.Compare relegate (sense 2). 2 to contribute to something • Exercise promotes health. 3 to work for the cause of something • promote peace. 4 to publicize; to try to boost the sales of (a product) by advertising. 5 to organize or finance (an undertaking). 6 chess to upgrade (a pawn that has reached the opponent's side of the board) to a higher rank. promotion noun. promotional adj.

Oh dear. Yet another example of lowing not understanding what words mean.
Nice try, but let me make it simple. In the context of the Constitution, "promote" does not mean guarantee. Just like promoting exercising, does not guarantee health. Good example by the way...Thank you for the help.
No, promoting exercise does not mean guaranteeing health - for a start exercise and health are totally different concepts, they may be linked, but so are lots of things. Promoting exercise would often involve organising and financing exercise. Just like promoting welfare involves organising and funding it.

In the specific example you make, the government would be contributing to welfare. Which is much the same thing, although it implies an element of imcompleteness.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2009-03-07 06:25:21)

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