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2009-03-06 18:45:36
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Atheism is an opiate for religion.
I'm having trouble making sense of that one.
I doubt that.

The religious turn to faith to make them feel better about the dark. The atheist turn to science and reason to find there own answers for the great beyond. Both help deal with the mystery of death, but the former offers golden streets and 72 virgins, the latter states we are star dust and become compost. The mass market appeal of the former is obvious. I have always maintained both are equally ridiculous as agnostics know where its at.
I actually interpreted Flaming's remark a bit differently...  If atheism is an opiate for religion, that means it is something used to soften the influence of religion.

I would argue that logic and reason more specifically are opiates to religion.  The more logical and reasonable someone usually is, the less dogmatic they are about faith.

I don't know if this is the angle Flaming is going for, but that's how I see it.
2009-03-06 19:20:26
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6748|The Land of Scott Walker

Turquoise wrote:

The more logical and reasonable someone usually is, the less dogmatic they are about faith.
That statement coming from someone who sees faith as illogical.  There are plenty of people who are quite logical and reasonable and at the same time extremely committed to their faith.  The two are not mutually exclusive.
2009-03-06 20:03:54
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

Stingray24 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

The more logical and reasonable someone usually is, the less dogmatic they are about faith.
That statement coming from someone who sees faith as illogical.  There are plenty of people who are quite logical and reasonable and at the same time extremely committed to their faith.  The two are not mutually exclusive.
There's a difference between being committed and being extremist.

That being said, I do actually have a few friends that are both logical and fundamentalist.  Granted, that combination, while not impossible, is very rare.

Most fundamentalists are very illogical, even if you take a less critical view of religion.
2009-03-06 22:26:21
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6988|United States of America

ATG wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Atheism is an opiate for religion.
I'm having trouble making sense of that one.
I doubt that.

The religious turn to faith to make them feel better about the dark. The atheist turn to science and reason to find there own answers for the great beyond. Both help deal with the mystery of death, but the former offers golden streets and 72 virgins, the latter states we are star dust and become compost. The mass market appeal of the former is obvious. I have always maintained both are equally ridiculous as agnostics know where its at.
*Disclaimer- Not directed at your post, but just a thought brought on by it, ATG *
I find it laughable that so many of these posts show religious people as ones afraid of dying and need some fairy tale to comfort them. What happens after death doesn't matter, you're dead--figure it out as you go.

In life, however, I view religion as basically a philosophy of guiding one's life. For me, I was raised Catholic and still suppose I could say that because I view the Bible as a valuable philosophical tool in the context of Catholicism. The whole razzmatazz about theism in connection to religion upsets me, though. It doesn't matter if there is a deity or not, are you going to be living your life any different? Whether or not the babysitter's watching, you're still the same person regardless.
2009-03-07 01:59:10
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7019
It's hard to explain something to someone who has never felt it...  like trying to explain being in love to someone with a hardened heart
Love is the answer
2009-03-07 03:08:57
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6952

Finray wrote:

It numbs the senses to make life easier.

Discuss.
When you put it this way it sounds pretty damn awesome.
2009-03-07 07:44:51
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6852|UK

Uzique wrote:

God, what is this, discuss centuries-old Nietzsche quotes in a pseudo-intellectual fashion?

/yawn.
This, and the irrelevance of said discussion.

What the churches, synagogues and mosques do, or have done, is meant to mean what exactly?

 

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