p.s. Jeb bush liked 'em so much he married one and taught george spanglish.
what i find odd about the immigrants.....
our ancestors who came here didnt get college, health care, etc, yet they built a fucking country. so whats the problem now?
our ancestors who came here didnt get college, health care, etc, yet they built a fucking country. so whats the problem now?
I'd like it if you'd answer my question, because, until then, I' am not sure if you are being serious or not.Lotta_Drool wrote:
The Republicans invented Illegal Immigrations during the regan years. John McCripple has stated publicly that he supports and embraces the brown horde from the south.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Who said they would fix everything? Heck, you're the first one to bring up the Republicans. They sure can't fix everything, but at least they would fix the illegal immigration issue. The longer we wait, the harder it gets to get them out. In a few more years, it's going to be impossible to fix, because the illegals and the first generation of their children will outnumber the rest of us.Lotta_Drool wrote:
maybe if republicans get elected next time they will fix everything. /sheeple
The Republicans invented illegal immigration. First of all, that's BS. Second, I don't care who invented it. The Reps and the Dems have flipped on issues dozens of times over the last 200 yrs. All I care about is that the problem gets fixed as soon as possible. I don't care who I have to support to get it fixed.
lol @ racial imperialismS.Lythberg wrote:
people will call me racist for saying it, but this is how they take over areas, illegally immigrate, pop out babies, and 18 years later, have enough legal citizens to elect your own, it happens in parts of Chicago too
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All the fucking railroads have been built, the potatoes planted, and the cotton picked.usmarine wrote:
what i find odd about the immigrants.....
our ancestors who came here didnt get college, health care, etc, yet they built a fucking country. so whats the problem now?
wtf did the Noreigns do? those fucking slackers, they must have just moved to Minnesota and Ice fished year round without anyone noticing.
Regan's solution was Amnesty, this created a massive border problem 'cuz they knew there would just be another mass amnesty.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
I'd like it if you'd answer my question, because, until then, I' am not sure if you are being serious or not.Lotta_Drool wrote:
The Republicans invented Illegal Immigrations during the regan years. John McCripple has stated publicly that he supports and embraces the brown horde from the south.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Who said they would fix everything? Heck, you're the first one to bring up the Republicans. They sure can't fix everything, but at least they would fix the illegal immigration issue. The longer we wait, the harder it gets to get them out. In a few more years, it's going to be impossible to fix, because the illegals and the first generation of their children will outnumber the rest of us.
The Republicans invented illegal immigration. First of all, that's BS. Second, I don't care who invented it. The Reps and the Dems have flipped on issues dozens of times over the last 200 yrs. All I care about is that the problem gets fixed as soon as possible. I don't care who I have to support to get it fixed.
Neither party will do anything about it. Republicans has all 3 branches of Gov. with bush and he did nothing after promising to address it. Clinton and now Obama had Majorities and did/are doing nothing.
you do the fucking math.
Racial imperialism? REALLY? This country was formed gradually by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It was formed by a group of people who had respect for the country and its laws. They planned to work hard. They did not come across the border ILLEGALLY. Furthermore, they did not leach off of society, filling up our hospitals and putting them out of buisness. I don't know where the hell you live, but I have to wait for 5 hours minimum at the hospital because the place is full of a bunch of people with huge families who can only speak Mexican. Guess who is paying for their visit? I AM. That is why hospital bills cost so much and that is why medical coverage costs so damn much.Roc18 wrote:
Kinda like how this country was formed right?S.Lythberg wrote:
people will call me racist for saying it, but this is how they take over areas, illegally immigrate, pop out babies, and 18 years later, have enough legal citizens to elect your own, it happens in parts of Chicago too
lol @ racial imperialism
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Stopped reading there.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
families who can only speak Mexican.
You forget about all the years slavery, mistreatment of the native americans, sexism etc. that occured after this country was formed and how the Caucasian Male was the only one that held any and all power when imperialism was occuring at the beginning of this country's history. Respect for the country? There was no country when the immigrants arrived and most certainly did not respect the people who lived there before them (cough..cough manifest destiny). You are just pointing fingers and not thinking about a solution to it.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Racial imperialism? REALLY? This country was formed gradually by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It was formed by a group of people who had respect for the country and its laws. They planned to work hard. They did not come across the border ILLEGALLY. Furthermore, they did not leach off of society, filling up our hospitals and putting them out of buisness. I don't know where the hell you live, but I have to wait for 5 hours minimum at the hospital because the place is full of a bunch of people with huge families who can only speak Mexican. Guess who is paying for their visit? I AM. That is who hospital bills cost so much and that is why medical coverage costs so damn much.Roc18 wrote:
Kinda like how this country was formed right?S.Lythberg wrote:
people will call me racist for saying it, but this is how they take over areas, illegally immigrate, pop out babies, and 18 years later, have enough legal citizens to elect your own, it happens in parts of Chicago too
lol @ racial imperialism
Spanish. what they were speaking was called spanish and they were saying how stupid americans are.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Racial imperialism? REALLY? This country was formed gradually by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It was formed by a group of people who had respect for the country and its laws. They planned to work hard. They did not come across the border ILLEGALLY. Furthermore, they did not leach off of society, filling up our hospitals and putting them out of buisness. I don't know where the hell you live, but I have to wait for 5 hours minimum at the hospital because the place is full of a bunch of people with huge families who can only speak Mexican. Guess who is paying for their visit? I AM. That is why hospital bills cost so much and that is why medical coverage costs so damn much.Roc18 wrote:
Kinda like how this country was formed right?S.Lythberg wrote:
people will call me racist for saying it, but this is how they take over areas, illegally immigrate, pop out babies, and 18 years later, have enough legal citizens to elect your own, it happens in parts of Chicago too
lol @ racial imperialism
Well if you want to enjoy a high quality of life then be prepared to deal with illegal immigrants. You will never be able to get rid of them totally or stop them from coming in here. Our high standards and wealth is what draws them here, the only way to stop them from coming is to lower ourselves.
It's the cost of wealth and power, you will have to deal with leeches and other people you don't want to.
It's the cost of wealth and power, you will have to deal with leeches and other people you don't want to.
Why, you don't think it matters? This is very significant, whether you're blind to it or not. The number of people allowed to immigrate from Mexico each year is not nearly enough to fill Southern California with little towns of illegals. Now, if I'm going to move to a country, I'm going to have to learn the language to get by. Of course, this doesn't matter to the illegals, because they don't want to integrate and they know they can find other groups of illegals to socialize with/ live with/ do work with. You morons are too busy trying to be politically correct to look at this objectively.Macbeth wrote:
Stopped reading there.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
families who can only speak Mexican.
god damn white devilsRoc18 wrote:
You forget about all the years slavery, mistreatment of the native americans, sexism etc. that occured after this country was formed and how the Caucasian Male was the only one that held any and all power when imperialism was occuring at the beginning of this country's history. Respect for the country? There was no country when the immigrants arrived and most certainly did not respect the people who lived there before them (cough..cough manifest destiny). You are just pointing fingers and not thinking about a solution to it.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Racial imperialism? REALLY? This country was formed gradually by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It was formed by a group of people who had respect for the country and its laws. They planned to work hard. They did not come across the border ILLEGALLY. Furthermore, they did not leach off of society, filling up our hospitals and putting them out of buisness. I don't know where the hell you live, but I have to wait for 5 hours minimum at the hospital because the place is full of a bunch of people with huge families who can only speak Mexican. Guess who is paying for their visit? I AM. That is who hospital bills cost so much and that is why medical coverage costs so damn much.Roc18 wrote:
Kinda like how this country was formed right?
lol @ racial imperialism
No I stopped reading there because I think your a fucking idiot for mistaking Spanish for "Mexican".Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Why, you don't think it matters? This is very significant, whether you're blind to it or not. The number of people allowed to immigrate from Mexico each year is not nearly enough to fill Southern California with little towns of illegals. Now, if I'm going to move to a country, I'm going to have to learn the language to get by. Of course, this doesn't matter to the illegals, because they don't want to integrate and they know they can find other groups of illegals to socialize with/ live with/ do work with. You morons are too busy trying to be politically correct to look at this objectively.Macbeth wrote:
Stopped reading there.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
families who can only speak Mexican.
I know I've said some stupid and crazy shit on this site but at least I get facts right, I just fuck up with my twist on them.
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Satan el Gringos. aye yie yie.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
god damn white devilsRoc18 wrote:
You forget about all the years slavery, mistreatment of the native americans, sexism etc. that occured after this country was formed and how the Caucasian Male was the only one that held any and all power when imperialism was occuring at the beginning of this country's history. Respect for the country? There was no country when the immigrants arrived and most certainly did not respect the people who lived there before them (cough..cough manifest destiny). You are just pointing fingers and not thinking about a solution to it.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Racial imperialism? REALLY? This country was formed gradually by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It was formed by a group of people who had respect for the country and its laws. They planned to work hard. They did not come across the border ILLEGALLY. Furthermore, they did not leach off of society, filling up our hospitals and putting them out of buisness. I don't know where the hell you live, but I have to wait for 5 hours minimum at the hospital because the place is full of a bunch of people with huge families who can only speak Mexican. Guess who is paying for their visit? I AM. That is who hospital bills cost so much and that is why medical coverage costs so damn much.
I don't care what draws them here. Draw them all you want, but there should be something preventing them from coming here in mass numbers like a border fence. How many modern first world nations have their borders unprotected?Macbeth wrote:
Well if you want to enjoy a high quality of life then be prepared to deal with illegal immigrants. You will never be able to get rid of them totally or stop them from coming in here. Our high standards and wealth is what draws them here, the only way to stop them from coming is to lower ourselves.
It's the cost of wealth and power, you will have to deal with leeches and other people you don't want to.
Most of Europe?Deadmonkiefart wrote:
I don't care what draws them here. Draw them all you want, but there should be something preventing them from coming here in mass numbers like a border fence. How many modern first world nations have their borders unprotected?Macbeth wrote:
Well if you want to enjoy a high quality of life then be prepared to deal with illegal immigrants. You will never be able to get rid of them totally or stop them from coming in here. Our high standards and wealth is what draws them here, the only way to stop them from coming is to lower ourselves.
It's the cost of wealth and power, you will have to deal with leeches and other people you don't want to.
I just finished watching the show bullshit with pen and teller, they built a fence and made illegal immagrants try to get around it.
It took them 3 minutes to get THROUGH it. They cut it apart and got through. Fences don't work. Address the issues in their country to stop drawing them here or assimilate them better when they get here.
agreed - This shit is fucked.
any fellow Californians ready to march up and stake a revolution at the capital with me? We'll place someone smart on the throne and assassinate the gypsie pelosi.
any fellow Californians ready to march up and stake a revolution at the capital with me? We'll place someone smart on the throne and assassinate the gypsie pelosi.
That was a really stupid comment. Please, get out if you cannot be civil. There is a difference between Mexican and Spanish, just as there is a difference between American English and British English, only it is even more pronounced. Your focus on this trivial detail shows that you have nothing worthwhile to say. Please, go away now.Macbeth wrote:
No I stopped reading there because I think your a fucking idiot for mistaking Spanish for "Mexican".Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Why, you don't think it matters? This is very significant, whether you're blind to it or not. The number of people allowed to immigrate from Mexico each year is not nearly enough to fill Southern California with little towns of illegals. Now, if I'm going to move to a country, I'm going to have to learn the language to get by. Of course, this doesn't matter to the illegals, because they don't want to integrate and they know they can find other groups of illegals to socialize with/ live with/ do work with. You morons are too busy trying to be politically correct to look at this objectively.Macbeth wrote:
Stopped reading there.
I know I've said some stupid and crazy shit on this site but at least I get facts right, I just fuck up with my twist on them.
No. I hate when people on debate forums tell other to go away rather then debate their arguments it shows weakness and cowardice. Christ, I hope you never get elected to office with the "go away I don't want to debate you" mindset.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
That was a really stupid comment. Please, get out if you cannot be civil. There is a difference between Mexican and Spanish, just as there is a difference between American English and British English, only it is even more pronounced. Your focus on this trivial detail shows that you have nothing worthwhile to say. Please, go away now.Macbeth wrote:
No I stopped reading there because I think your a fucking idiot for mistaking Spanish for "Mexican".Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Why, you don't think it matters? This is very significant, whether you're blind to it or not. The number of people allowed to immigrate from Mexico each year is not nearly enough to fill Southern California with little towns of illegals. Now, if I'm going to move to a country, I'm going to have to learn the language to get by. Of course, this doesn't matter to the illegals, because they don't want to integrate and they know they can find other groups of illegals to socialize with/ live with/ do work with. You morons are too busy trying to be politically correct to look at this objectively.
I know I've said some stupid and crazy shit on this site but at least I get facts right, I just fuck up with my twist on them.
I also hate debates on minor details but that seems like it's all we're going to get here.
I don't have to be civil to the stupid. My tolerance for the stupid is low, it'll get lower.
He's got a point Macbeth. Maybe you don't belong here.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
That was a really stupid comment. Please, get out if you cannot be civil. There is a difference between Mexican and Spanish, just as there is a difference between American English and British English, only it is even more pronounced. Your focus on this trivial detail shows that you have nothing worthwhile to say. Please, go away now.Macbeth wrote:
No I stopped reading there because I think your a fucking idiot for mistaking Spanish for "Mexican".Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Why, you don't think it matters? This is very significant, whether you're blind to it or not. The number of people allowed to immigrate from Mexico each year is not nearly enough to fill Southern California with little towns of illegals. Now, if I'm going to move to a country, I'm going to have to learn the language to get by. Of course, this doesn't matter to the illegals, because they don't want to integrate and they know they can find other groups of illegals to socialize with/ live with/ do work with. You morons are too busy trying to be politically correct to look at this objectively.
I know I've said some stupid and crazy shit on this site but at least I get facts right, I just fuck up with my twist on them.
Monkiefart, how do you know how many Mexicans you see are illegal and don't want to integrate?
You know what he is saying does sound sincere Deadmonkiefart. Maybe you should address his issues with your post?Macbeth wrote:
No. I hate when people on debate forums tell other to go away rather then debate their arguments it shows weakness and cowardice. Christ, I hope you never get elected to office with the "go away I don't want to debate you" mindset.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
That was a really stupid comment. Please, get out if you cannot be civil. There is a difference between Mexican and Spanish, just as there is a difference between American English and British English, only it is even more pronounced. Your focus on this trivial detail shows that you have nothing worthwhile to say. Please, go away now.Macbeth wrote:
No I stopped reading there because I think your a fucking idiot for mistaking Spanish for "Mexican".
I know I've said some stupid and crazy shit on this site but at least I get facts right, I just fuck up with my twist on them.
I also hate debates on minor details but that seems like it's all we're going to get here.
I don't have to be civil to the stupid. My tolerance for the stupid is low, it'll get lower.
Lotta_Drool wrote:
He's got a point Macbeth. Maybe you don't belong here.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
That was a really stupid comment. Please, get out if you cannot be civil. There is a difference between Mexican and Spanish, just as there is a difference between American English and British English, only it is even more pronounced. Your focus on this trivial detail shows that you have nothing worthwhile to say. Please, go away now.Macbeth wrote:
No I stopped reading there because I think your a fucking idiot for mistaking Spanish for "Mexican".
I know I've said some stupid and crazy shit on this site but at least I get facts right, I just fuck up with my twist on them.
You can never have a rational argument or debate, only extreme rudeness and lack of civility are recognized and addressed.Macbeth wrote:
No. I hate when people on debate forums tell other to go away rather then debate their arguments it shows weakness and cowardice. Christ, I hope you never get elected to office with the "go away I don't want to debate you" mindset.
I also hate debates on minor details but that seems like it's all we're going to get here.
First of all, I'm not pointing fingers, and I would appreciate it if you would not accuse me of doing something that I am not. Let's focus on the issue. I don't care if immigrants have respect for those that lived before them, they still have to have respect for those who live here now. And I don't see the connection between "all the years slavery, mistreatment of the native americans, sexism etc. that occured after this country was formed" and the fact that the masses of illegals are bad for this country.Roc18 wrote:
You forget about all the years slavery, mistreatment of the native americans, sexism etc. that occured after this country was formed and how the Caucasian Male was the only one that held any and all power when imperialism was occuring at the beginning of this country's history. Respect for the country? There was no country when the immigrants arrived and most certainly did not respect the people who lived there before them (cough..cough manifest destiny). You are just pointing fingers and not thinking about a solution to it.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Racial imperialism? REALLY? This country was formed gradually by LEGAL IMMIGRANTS. It was formed by a group of people who had respect for the country and its laws. They planned to work hard. They did not come across the border ILLEGALLY. Furthermore, they did not leach off of society, filling up our hospitals and putting them out of buisness. I don't know where the hell you live, but I have to wait for 5 hours minimum at the hospital because the place is full of a bunch of people with huge families who can only speak Mexican. Guess who is paying for their visit? I AM. That is who hospital bills cost so much and that is why medical coverage costs so damn much.Roc18 wrote:
Kinda like how this country was formed right?
lol @ racial imperialism