They deserve to go bust. They're miles behind European or Japanese manufacturers.Ford says they can achieve up to 20 percent better fuel and 15 percent lower CO2 emissions, compared with larger displacement engines, without sacrificing power.
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The new EcoBoost engine will get an estimated 25 to 26 miles per gallon on the highway and 18 to 20 miles per gallon in city driving, said Gary Johnson, Ford's director of powertrain manufacturing.
They're talking about a somewhat powerful engine being that economical.3.5-liter, V-6
I'd rather have three Japanese cars to choose from with 40+MPG than five American cars to choose from with 20+ MPGATG wrote:
Bah, U.S. car makers get a bad rap; there are more models offering good fuel economy from Ford than there are from Toyota
Yeah, American cars really sucked in the 80s and 90s but now they are almost at the level of quality of the Japanese and Germans. Not quite there but if their rep wasn't so hurt then more people would buy their shit then they would be able to make the shit better.ATG wrote:
Bah, U.S. car makers get a bad rap; there are more models offering good fuel economy from Ford than there are from Toyota.
AndThey're talking about a somewhat powerful engine being that economical.3.5-liter, V-6
have fun making any use of that V6 in the DC areaATG wrote:
Any one those Jap cars got a V6, slick?
Seems to be the key point.
According to a comment underneath the article:ATG wrote:
Bah, U.S. car makers get a bad rap; there are more models offering good fuel economy from Ford than there are from Toyota.
AndThey're talking about a somewhat powerful engine being that economical.3.5-liter, V-6
No idea how true that is though. You don't need a 3.5l engine though.The run-of-the-mill Honda Accord V-6 engine has 271 hp, gets 19mpg in the city and 29 on the highway.
Yep.Reciprocity wrote:
i'd rather see them invest in a good 4 cylinder, which they used to have. americans have this weird fixation with V configured engines.
^^^Hurricane2k9 wrote:
have fun making any use of that V6 in the DC areaATG wrote:
Any one those Jap cars got a V6, slick?
Seems to be the key point.
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I assume that means any power. ATG seems to get the point.....without sacrificing power
17 city, 26 highway from an "eco engine"ghettoperson wrote:
They deserve to go bust. They're miles behind European or Japanese manufacturers.Ford says they can achieve up to 20 percent better fuel and 15 percent lower CO2 emissions, compared with larger displacement engines, without sacrificing power.
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The new EcoBoost engine will get an estimated 25 to 26 miles per gallon on the highway and 18 to 20 miles per gallon in city driving, said Gary Johnson, Ford's director of powertrain manufacturing.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/ … sBySection
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The fuel point is interesting, i'd never considered that.Diesel_dyk wrote:
17 city, 26 highway from an "eco engine"ghettoperson wrote:
They deserve to go bust. They're miles behind European or Japanese manufacturers.Ford says they can achieve up to 20 percent better fuel and 15 percent lower CO2 emissions, compared with larger displacement engines, without sacrificing power.
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The new EcoBoost engine will get an estimated 25 to 26 miles per gallon on the highway and 18 to 20 miles per gallon in city driving, said Gary Johnson, Ford's director of powertrain manufacturing.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/ … sBySection
That's BS my friend has a 2004 Mustang Mach 1 it supposed to get epa 17 city 26 highway. He swears he gets 29 or 30 on the highway and that's a high performance sports car.
Ford is touting its new eco engine that about the same or maybe even worse than a mustang mach 1, what's wrong with this picture. Why can't they build a more efficient engine. Hell all they would have to do is bring over some of the European diesel engines and their cars would be getting mileage in the high 30s or 40s. Ecoboost my a$$.
they can build a fuel efficient engine. the problem is building a powerful, fuel efficient, low emissions engine that is economically feasible.Diesel_dyk wrote:
Why can't they build a more efficient engine.
The odd thing is Ford in Europe do it very very well. Ford Focus, Fiesta and Mondeo all spring to mind.Reciprocity wrote:
they can build a fuel efficient engine. the problem is building a powerful, fuel efficient, low emissions engine that is economically feasible.Diesel_dyk wrote:
Why can't they build a more efficient engine.
I don't quite follow the question butFatherTed wrote:
The fuel point is interesting, i'd never considered that.Diesel_dyk wrote:
17 city, 26 highway from an "eco engine"ghettoperson wrote:
They deserve to go bust. They're miles behind European or Japanese manufacturers.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/ … sBySection
That's BS my friend has a 2004 Mustang Mach 1 it supposed to get epa 17 city 26 highway. He swears he gets 29 or 30 on the highway and that's a high performance sports car.
Ford is touting its new eco engine that about the same or maybe even worse than a mustang mach 1, what's wrong with this picture. Why can't they build a more efficient engine. Hell all they would have to do is bring over some of the European diesel engines and their cars would be getting mileage in the high 30s or 40s. Ecoboost my a$$.
Is our fuel generally better quality?
'Cause that gives more power, cleaner etc etc.
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Which is still only 20 m/gal...usmarine wrote:
hybrid escalade gets better mpg in the city than a certain mini cooper model.
so, who is behind who exactly?
pimp car gets better millage then gay car.
Environmentalism is da bomb.usmarine wrote:
hybrid escalade gets better mpg in the city than a certain mini cooper model.
so, who is behind who exactly?
pimp car gets better millage then gay car.
The Ford S-Max was the 2007 European car of the year. It's not odd... it's because that is what you are asking for. Not because you are some enlightend omg leik we are killing polar bears society. It's more to do with the fact you pay waaaay more for your fuel.FatherTed wrote:
The odd thing is Ford in Europe do it very very well. Ford Focus, Fiesta and Mondeo all spring to mind.Reciprocity wrote:
they can build a fuel efficient engine. the problem is building a powerful, fuel efficient, low emissions engine that is economically feasible.Diesel_dyk wrote:
Why can't they build a more efficient engine.
I'm not sure if you are old enough to drive(and i dont mean that as a slight)Hurricane2k9 wrote:
have fun making any use of that V6 in the DC areaATG wrote:
Any one those Jap cars got a V6, slick?
Seems to be the key point.