destruktion_6143
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OTTAWA, Feb 27 (Reuters) - Canadian fighters scrambled to intercept an approaching Russian bomber less than 24 hours before U.S. President Barack Obama's visit to Ottawa last week, Canadian Defence Minister Peter MacKay said on Friday.

The Bear bomber did not enter Canada's Arctic airspace but the two Canadian F-18 fighters had to order the plane to turn back, MacKay told a news conference.

Obama spent a few hours in the Canadian capital on Feb. 19 on his first foreign trip since becoming president.

"I'm not going to stand here and accuse the Russians of having deliberately done this during the presidential visit but it was a strong coincidence, which we met with the presence, as we always do, of F-18 fighter planes ... and sent a strong signal that they should back off and stay out of our air space," MacKay said.

He also said Russia had stepped up its bomber flights toward the Canadian Arctic in the last few years, reviving a practice that was common during the Cold War.

MacKay did not say exactly when the incident occurred or how close the bomber came to Canadian airspace.

"It's not a game. It's not a game at all. These aircraft approaching Canadian or U.S. airspace are viewed very seriously," he said.

"We have asked on a number of occasions ... that we are given a heads up when this type of air traffic is to occur and to date we have not received that kind of notice."

In Moscow, a spokesman for Russia's defense ministry could not immediately be reached for comment.

MacKay spoke after a meeting with U.S. General Gene Renuart, commander of the binational North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).

"They (the Russians) have been professional in the way they have conducted their aircraft operations," Renuart said.

Canada's minority Conservative government has promised to spend billions of dollars boosting Canada's presence in the Arctic, which scientists believe has vast reserves of oil and natural gas.

"Our intention is very much to demonstrate our sovereignty, our capability to protect our territory, our airspace, our water (and) our people in the Arctic and that includes our resources," MacKay said.

Five countries with an Arctic coastline -- Russia, the United States, Canada, Norway, and Denmark through its control of Greenland -- have competing claims to the region.

Scientists say oil and gas exploration could begin during the summer months within decades.

Russia said this week it would respond to any moves to militarize the Arctic.

Ottawa -- which plans to build a deep water port in the region -- has stepped up sovereignty patrols in the Arctic and last August it said it would toughen reporting requirements for ships entering its waters in the Far North. (Reporting by David Ljunggren; Editing by Peter Galloway
http://uk.reuters.com/article/latestCri … KN27333505


im getting tired of russia challenging canadian airspace and waters, very annoying. especially when is a bear bomber...
FatherTed
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Happens a lot, we just throw a few eurofighters up and tell them to fuck off basically.
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JahManRed
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They where in international airspace. Don't shit yer pants.
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It does tend to happen often.

I don't understand if it is a "scare" tactic of some sort but it seems like a waste of money tbh.
Kmar
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JahManRed wrote:

They where in international airspace. Don't shit yer pants.
I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you! ha ha I'm not touching you! *punched in the face* Dick.

Hey I wonder if this is why he only stayed 7 hours.
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JahManRed wrote:

They where in international airspace. Don't shit yer pants.
When they have the capability to launch cruise missiles from out side of the countries airspace and strike targets far inland, its a a cause for worry. Just like having a carrier group in the Persian Gulf gives us the capability to strike targets without violating airspace.
FatherTed
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What d'ya reckon Russias response would be if some UK/USA long rangers ended up near russias air?
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FatherTed wrote:

What d'ya reckon Russias response would be if some UK/USA long rangers ended up near russias air?
They would go ape shit and might want to start a war...One day their gonna get one of their bomber taken out and will cry like pussies.
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
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one day a nervous pilot will engage. or that the ruskies will actually violate canadas or the US airspace and will be shot at
Shahter
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okay now, tell me: do you honestly beleave US and other NATO members don't fly their asses next to Russia's airspace without giving a warning?
and, really, why so serious (c)? - that bomber wasn't probably even armed with shit powerfull anough to kill a cockroach. this whole incident is worth a laugh maybe, but that's about it...
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
destruktion_6143
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Shahter wrote:

okay now, tell me: do you honestly beleave US and other NATO members don't fly their asses next to Russia's airspace without giving a warning?
and, really, why so serious (c)? - that bomber wasn't probably even armed with shit powerfull anough to kill a cockroach. this whole incident is worth a laugh maybe, but that's about it...
no they dont fly near russian airspace w/o warning. this has been a problem with russia for years now, its a symbolic slap to the face when they do flybys so, yea, it is important. russia thinks its so mighty and wags its dick around, but russia will get hurt by this. just wait.
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Roger Lesboules wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

What d'ya reckon Russias response would be if some UK/USA long rangers ended up near russias air?
They would go ape shit and might want to start a war...One day their gonna get one of their bomber taken out and will cry like pussies.
Used to happen a lot to both sides back in the cold war. Probably a list of all the official shoot downs somewhere, could probably find a list of the unofficial ones too if you really searched.
Shahter
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

no they dont fly near russian airspace w/o warning.
they don't?! sorry, but i had to laugh out loud at this.
okay, i'll leave you in peace in the world of your wonderfull media. have a nice day.
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
destruktion_6143
Was ist Loos?
+154|6930|Canada

Shahter wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

no they dont fly near russian airspace w/o warning.
they don't?! sorry, but i had to laugh out loud at this.
okay, i'll leave you in peace in the world of your wonderfull media. have a nice day.
...canada doesnt fly in russian airspace, or near it... dunno bout US but we dont. and russia feels it can do it whenever
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

Shahter wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

no they dont fly near russian airspace w/o warning.
they don't?! sorry, but i had to laugh out loud at this.
okay, i'll leave you in peace in the world of your wonderfull media. have a nice day.
...canada doesnt fly in russian airspace, or near it... dunno bout US but we dont. and russia feels it can do it whenever
I'd be highly surprised if they don't. Everyone does it.
destruktion_6143
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canada has never been an instigator lol
Diesel_dyk
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Good thing Cheney wasn't in charge of NORAD like he was on 9/11.

Otherwise the bomber would have been parked on the whitehouse lawn before the interceptors were scrambled.
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FatherTed wrote:

What d'ya reckon Russias response would be if some UK/USA long rangers ended up near russias air?
Unfortunately we don't have long rangers any more

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FEOS
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

one day a nervous pilot will engage. or that the ruskies will actually violate canadas or the US airspace and will be shot at
These intercepts are so commonplace...there's no way either of those scenarios would occur accidentally.
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FEOS
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

Shahter wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

no they dont fly near russian airspace w/o warning.
they don't?! sorry, but i had to laugh out loud at this.
okay, i'll leave you in peace in the world of your wonderfull media. have a nice day.
...canada doesnt fly in russian airspace, or near it... dunno bout US but we dont. and russia feels it can do it whenever
The US doesn't fly nearly as close to Russian airspace as these LRA (long range aviation) sorties do to/in US/Canadian airspace.
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destruktion_6143
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FEOS wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

one day a nervous pilot will engage. or that the ruskies will actually violate canadas or the US airspace and will be shot at
These intercepts are so commonplace...there's no way either of those scenarios would occur accidentally.
we should sure russia for wasting our resources. jet fuel aint cheap!
FEOS
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destruktion_6143 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

one day a nervous pilot will engage. or that the ruskies will actually violate canadas or the US airspace and will be shot at
These intercepts are so commonplace...there's no way either of those scenarios would occur accidentally.
we should sure russia for wasting our resources. jet fuel aint cheap!
That's true. But they burn far more than we do in those situations.

EDIT: Just read another article on it. It wasn't a Bear. It was a Blackjack. That's a bit more rare.

Last edited by FEOS (2009-02-27 19:41:49)

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Shahter wrote:

destruktion_6143 wrote:

no they dont fly near russian airspace w/o warning.
they don't?! sorry, but i had to laugh out loud at this.
okay, i'll leave you in peace in the world of your wonderfull media. have a nice day.
While you might be correct that multiple sides do sketchy things involving airspace, Russian media isn't particularly known for its objectivity or factuality either.
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Russia is joking only.
FatherTed
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M.O.A.B wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

What d'ya reckon Russias response would be if some UK/USA long rangers ended up near russias air?
Unfortunately we don't have long rangers any more

Bring back the V-Fawce!
One of the first Vulcans is parked up at Woodford strip, bout 2 mi from english house. Woodford is home to a huuuuuge BAE systems plant, normally see tons of cool stuff flying in, very low, normally at night.
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