Black it out

2009-02-19 13:34:45

#1

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0902/S00278.htm

In receiving a petition today for the repeal of Section 92A of the Copyright Amendment Act, UnitedFuture leader Peter Dunne pledged to continue fighting to get rid of the clause that will see innocent New Zealanders having their internet disconnected.

http://bit.ly/boocens

A protest campaign against the Copyright Amendment (New Technologies) Act appears to be gaining momentum as protesters, including high profile UK celebrity Stephen Fry, black-out photos on Twitter, Facebook and various other social networking sites.

The Creative Freedom has called Feb 16 to 23 Internet Blackout Week NZ as they seek to protest against the controversial 'Section 92A' due to come into force at the end of February.

Fry, who has thrown his support behind internet Blackout Week, has blacked his out, and now his Twitter site is awash with tweets asking the comedian why.

Central to this, they argue, is getting processing charges removed for lodging copyright infringement notices and, worryingly, giving copyright holders the ability to decide if any disputes to copyright infringement and disconnection notices are valid - effectively making copyright holders both judge and jury.

If alarm bells are going off in your head, you're not alone. Investigating the validity of any copyright infringement claims is likely to be a resource-intensive and costly undertaking for ISPs.

If the various copyright industry groups are exempted from any processing charges associated with lodging a copyright infringement, internet subscribers will probably suffer as ISPs are forced to pass the costs onto internet users' broadband plans.

http://creativefreedom.org.nz/blackout.html

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 13:42:59

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6456|what

Oh those poor New Zealanders.

Copyright is very strict here at Uni and you can get into serious trouble with any kind of plagiarism, which is to be expected. I can understand that the uni itself could come under a lot of pressure should plagiarism become the work of any student, but I don't see how the ISP's should be involved in something like this, if at all.

Mr Dunne, UnitedFuture leader... said the clause was actually removed when the Act went through the select committee process last year, but “in the previous Government’s haste to ram through this legislation, the then Associate Commerce Minister Judith Tizard bowed to a small group of lobbyists and reinstated the section despite the fact that it had been removed by the select committee".

lol reads like a Greek tragedy.

2009-02-19 13:51:49

#3

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Oh it's all the talk currently on the geek'o'sphere.. not just for the noisy's. This week has been real screwy. The facebook stuff, the pirate bay stuff, etc.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 13:54:01

#4

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6803|so randum

Kmarion wrote:
Oh it's all the talk currently on the geek'o'sphere.. not just for the noisy's. This week has been real screwy. The facebook stuff, the pirate bay stuff, etc.

didn't facebook back down eventually?

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2009-02-19 14:15:07

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BVC: Member; +325|6998

Wow, looks like this is getting a bit of international attention, good to see the support is going global!

The shit will really hit the fan when infringement notices are served against sitting MPs, and parliament. This campaign has enough support that it will happen if the new laws are not removed.

2009-02-19 14:38:17

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ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6952

This is just another attempt for you to get more Facebook friends isn't it Kerry?

2009-02-19 14:56:29

#7

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

ghettoperson wrote:
This is just another attempt for you to get more Facebook friends isn't it Kerry?

Nah just a sheeple when it comes to fighting the online powers that be. I always make post when stuff like this comes up (comcast cap, net neutrality, etc).

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 15:00:48

#8

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

FatherTed wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Oh it's all the talk currently on the geek'o'sphere.. not just for the noisy's. This week has been real screwy. The facebook stuff, the pirate bay stuff, etc.
didn't facebook back down eventually?

Yes and according to them it was because of the protest/outrage "feedback". They listened.

Because of the feedback we received, we have decided to return to our previous Terms of Use while we resolve the issues that people have raised.

FYI: http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/publ … 22643.html

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 15:21:06

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6708|North Carolina

Wow... a lot of the world lately has been headed for the Big Brother direction.

What the fuck is going on in the U.K., the Netherlands, Australia, and now New Zealand?

Jesus, what's next? Canada is gonna ban porn or something?

2009-02-19 15:30:31

#10

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:
Wow... a lot of the world lately has been headed for the Big Brother direction.

What the fuck is going on in the U.K., the Netherlands, Australia, and now New Zealand?

Jesus, what's next? Canada is gonna ban porn or something?

Canada is dealing similar.

Similar to the battles that are being had in Canada, New Zealand seems set to Intoduce similar law as part of "Copyright (New Technologies) Amendment Act 2008" which in effect will require ISP's to terminate your internet connection if you are accused of downloading copyright material.

Here is a facebook group discussing the topic.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=4 … amp;ref=mf

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 15:37:54

#11

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6708|North Carolina

What... the... fuck.

If this shit keeps up, we're gonna need a real Fight Club. Telecoms and banks should be the first targets.

2009-02-19 15:44:05

#12

Roger Lesboules: Ah ben tabarnak!; +316|6880|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

Wait what, Canada talking about doing that? Impossible, i mean, we have bagged milk! We are over the copyright law!!

2009-02-19 15:45:31

#13

13rin: Member; +977|6782

Kmarion wrote:
Oh it's all the talk currently on the geek'o'sphere.. not just for the noisy's. This week has been real screwy. The facebook stuff, the pirate bay stuff, etc.

Pirate bay stuff?

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2009-02-19 15:49:02

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Roger Lesboules: Ah ben tabarnak!; +316|6880|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

DBBrinson1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Oh it's all the talk currently on the geek'o'sphere.. not just for the noisy's. This week has been real screwy. The facebook stuff, the pirate bay stuff, etc.
Pirate bay stuff?

Prolly talking about the owner of TPB being sued.

2009-02-19 15:54:16

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Roger Lesboules wrote:
Wait what, Canada talking about doing that? Impossible, i mean, we have bagged milk! We are over the copyright law!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-61_ … n)#Details

http://www.straight.com/article-200814/ … ikely-fall

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 15:59:13

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Roger Lesboules: Ah ben tabarnak!; +316|6880|Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Québec!

Kmarion wrote:
Roger Lesboules wrote:
Wait what, Canada talking about doing that? Impossible, i mean, we have bagged milk! We are over the copyright law!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-61_ … n)#Details

http://www.straight.com/article-200814/ … ikely-fall

Humm, so that fucking bill would only make it illegal to circumvent DRM...humm, prolly better than what NZ have to deal with...Watch out Ty, they are on your track.

2009-02-19 16:14:11

#17

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Roger Lesboules wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Roger Lesboules wrote:
Wait what, Canada talking about doing that? Impossible, i mean, we have bagged milk! We are over the copyright law!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_C-61_ … n)#Details

http://www.straight.com/article-200814/ … ikely-fall
Humm, so that fucking bill would only make it illegal to circumvent DRM...humm, prolly better than what NZ have to deal with...Watch out Ty, they are on your track.

Amongst a lot of other things.. like backing up DVD's.

I've had to strip drm stuff out of my own purchased material before.. just to get it to work on some devices.

These two are particularly jacked too.

# Uploading regardless of awareness, including uploading to YouTube or peer-to-peer networks. Note that peer-to-peer programs generally allow files to be both uploaded and downloaded by default.

# "Making available" of copyrighted material (regardless if it was actually uploaded).

Making available? Holy shit that's broad. Slippery slope.

..would be prevented from watching videos bought abroad), transferring legitimate DVD media to iPods

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 16:16:32

#18

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6708|North Carolina

Yes, yes it is... We can thank lobbyists for pushing this stuff through.

K Street needs to burn.

2009-02-19 16:16:42

#19

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6924|London, England

Someone explain what exactly this copyright law is, without using stupid media terms that are annoying to read let alone understand

2009-02-19 16:27:31

#20

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Mekstizzle wrote:
Someone explain what exactly this copyright law is, without using stupid media terms that are annoying to read let alone understand

The NZ version is very jacked,

This is it in basic terms.

A "copyright holder" can get you kicked off an ISP without having to provide any evidence of an actual infringement. Having to [provide evidence] is apparently "impractical" and "ridiculous" in the words of RIANZ chief executive Campbell Smith. What happens when the "you" above is a public library, or a school? Or if the "copyright holder" makes a mistake or a malicious accusation?

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/new … amp;Click=

The onus is then on the customer to prove their case and get their website access reinstated. We believe this responsibility is open to malicious abuse by parties who wish to close-down websites or disrupt in some way another person's business or enjoyment of the use of the internet.

http://www.parliament.nz/NR/rdonlyres/4 … itute3.pdf

Basically you can have your internet rights stripped away simply by being accused. "Guilt Upon Accusation". The burden is on the accused and there is no punishment for making false accusations.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-19 17:20:46

#21

BVC: Member; +325|6998

I have already accused every NZer of copyright infringement, so unless my fellow kiwis want to be criminals they should get off the internet.

2009-02-19 19:37:29

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: On Monday morning bloggers from across the political spectrum will be taking their blogs down in an "Internet Blackout" to protest the coming into force on the 28th of S92A of the Copyright Act.

Scores and scores of bloggers will be taking part, including Public Address, Scoop, Kiwiblog, The Standard, No Right Turn, Frog Blog, Whale Oil, Not PC, No Minister, Just Left, The Hand Mirror, Roar Prawn, Policy Net, Kiwi Politico etc etc. Supporters of almost every political party are taking part – National, Labour, Greens, ACT, Alliance, and Libertarianz,

To say we represent a diverse range of views is putting it mildly. Normally we disagree on everything. Even e=mc^2 can be regarded as a highly debatable proposition on our blogs.

So for us to all unite together, from across the political spectrum, to condemn S92A of the Copyright Act should send a signal as to how bad the law is. A law which can see people lose their Internet access on the basis of unproven allegations should have no place in the New Zealand statute books.

We don't care who voted for the law in the first place. We just want it stopped. We call on either Parliament to repeal that section or for the Government to delay it from coming into force on 28 February.

The normal content on our blogs will be made inaccessible on Monday morning, and our blogs will refer people to the online petition organized by the Creative Freedom Foundation.

In addition to these political blogs, thousands of other websites including Scoop News, PublicAddress.Net, Throng, GeekZone, and Street Talk are also joining the Internet Blackout.

There are some BIG time bloggers participating in this. It will be interesting to see how serious they really are.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-20 03:47:56

#23

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6714|'Murka

Is it just me, or does this appear to remove any burden of proof from the accusers (copyright holders)?

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2009-02-20 03:51:09

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6456|what

FEOS wrote:
Is it just me, or does this appear to remove any burden of proof from the accusers (copyright holders)?

Correct the onus is placed upon the accused, which is what is so controversial.

2009-02-20 15:14:55

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6708|North Carolina

AussieReaper wrote:
FEOS wrote:
Is it just me, or does this appear to remove any burden of proof from the accusers (copyright holders)?
Correct the onus is placed upon the accused, which is what is so controversial.

...fucked up would be the phrase I'd use.

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