P_Diaz
Member
+6|5549|USA
I didn’t know where to post this thread, so I’m posting it here.

Last night I was playing on Wake Island with a friend and I was on the North Village flag. I was US and the Chinese were putting up a fight. My friend and I noticed something, I mean, we were playing and we noticed that we were doing most of the work. We were on a squad and people kept joining but everyone else that was not in my squad was driving around in the transport cars and tanks, and were not pushing enough to capture flags. While people on the Heli’s were flying around, I don’t know what they were doing, but they were enjoying recreational time I guess. Our commander was so annoying, he was just doing artillery strikes on all the uncapped flags, killing everyone, including us! It was so annoying being teamkilled while trying to capture a flag. There was another dude on our team that I guess had bad eyesight, because he kept mistaking us for the enemy and nading us, and sniping us!

Anyways, the point of this thread is, why can’t people just work together instead of trying to do everything by themselves? I mean, the commander has a job, the squads and squad members have a job. If they do their job correctly, they will win the round. Now, I can’t seem to find the answer to why people want to be lone wolves. They don’t accomplish anything and are obstacles because they can’t really be communicated with as good as with someone on your squad. Instead of being useful, they become obstacles.

Does anyone else have any comments on this? Any opinions? I apologize in advance if I posted this in the wrong section! Sorry!

But hey, the Chinese were in a little hut by the North Village, there were four of them in it trying to capture the flag… so I used my rocket launcher and.. goooooodddd byee! LOL Its always nice to get more than one kill with a nade!

Take care guys, keep up the good gamin on BF2! 

-Pab

Last edited by P_Diaz (2009-02-06 12:11:03)

I'm Jamesey
Do a Research Noob
+506|6121|Scotland!
The average bf2 player lacks ingame IQ and prefers to run around on their own avoiding flags and being useful in general.
P_Diaz
Member
+6|5549|USA

I'm Jamesey wrote:

The average bf2 player lacks ingame IQ and prefers to run around on their own avoiding flags and being useful in general.
Lol, Yeah, I guess they don't know any better. I, however, have not been playing BF2 for a while. I got the game back in 2007 and played on and off, I didn't play for about a year and I started again recently. I don't consider myself a veteran or anything, because I have a LOT of things to learn. I think I'm a noob, lol, but I can tell the difference between success with teamwork and failure working alone!
NgoDamWei
Member
+7|5652|Western North Carolina
I have generally found your complaint not map particular but rather related to the average age of the players, read: children.  We've all encountered them, the squeaky voiced punk commander who would rather reply "You can't tell me what to do !" than help you.

I can name several servers (but I can't if you know what I mean ) where the after daycare/school crowd at 4PM can't hold a candle vis a vis gameplay to those who may play the same server at 1AM. 

Just put in for a PCS transfer and you find far better crews elsewhere.
specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|6677|arica harbour
there is teamwork in most games/ server you play. if their is a lack of teamwork its because of 3 things
1) everyone is a noob and no one has one damn clue in whats going on
2) their trying to just get kills and hours played so that they can get the next award in their wishlist
3) if their are several different clans in a match, you could say they have their own agenda.
aimless
Member
+166|6113|Texas
1) it's a pub
Miniman7474
Banned.
+30|6187|Daqing Oilfields?

P_Diaz wrote:

Last night I was playing on Wake Island
There's your problem.

Oh, and this:

aimless wrote:

1) it's a pub
General rule of thumb: Only SL's should take transports, especially fast movers. No ones gonna get out of North Vill if random people keep taking transports...if a single person gets out, they will die before capping. If an SL gets out, there's suddenly 6 people on AF and it's capped instantly.

Last edited by Miniman7474 (2009-02-06 13:39:28)

FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6679|Devon, England
Oh, you're American.

Gotland servers are where it's at.

Gotland #01 almost all nights, look out for us.
Ace.O.Lamb
Got Lamb?
+56|6262|Outside your Back window
Two words: Project reality! I recently downloaded it and its everything Bf2 vanilla is not. EVERYONE works in squads and as a whole team!
Ajax_the_Great1
Dropped on request
+206|6635

aimless wrote:

1) it's a pub
^that
take 32-64 people who don't know each other and ask them to be polite and curteous to each other over the internet. Good luck with that.
P_Diaz
Member
+6|5549|USA

Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Two words: Project reality! I recently downloaded it and its everything Bf2 vanilla is not. EVERYONE works in squads and as a whole team!
My friend plays this Mod, I've heard its kinda strange. I mean, It doesn't bother me that people have fun playing, it just like "what the heck are they doing?" Just sitting around, not capturing flags or USING the weapons we have such as helis and tanks. I understand that it's pub and pub = whatever. But what is the point of playing a game when you're not interested in getting the assets to win?

Oh and by the way, Ace, I downloaded Project Reality but have not yet installed it. I'm still waiting for some more information about it and some feedback from friends. From what you said, it seems you would recommend it.
steelie34
pub hero!
+603|6370|the land of bourbon
i still find teamwork occasionally.  usually i just squad lead... if people spawn on me, great, i keep inviting them the next rounds.  it all depends on the server too.  the well known, consistently populated servers usually have a core of regulars who always use teamwork.  the lesser known servers or smaller games usually just have people flying around or camping
https://bf3s.com/sigs/36e1d9e36ae924048a933db90fb05bb247fe315e.png
P_Diaz
Member
+6|5549|USA

steelie34 wrote:

i still find teamwork occasionally.  usually i just squad lead... if people spawn on me, great, i keep inviting them the next rounds.  it all depends on the server too.  the well known, consistently populated servers usually have a core of regulars who always use teamwork.  the lesser known servers or smaller games usually just have people flying around or camping
Don't even get me started with camping...! lmao
N00bkilla55404
Voices are calling...
+136|5920|Somewhere out in Space

Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Two words: Project reality! I recently downloaded it and its everything Bf2 vanilla is not. EVERYONE works in squads and as a whole team!
cool walk simulator bro
JoshP
Banned
+176|5677|Notts, UK
If you want teamwork, join a clan

all your stories are just common knowledge...... (i.e., nobody cares)

If people piss you off so much, tk them, if they're hindering your gameplay, stop QQing and stop being bad at the game

N00bkilla55404 wrote:

Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Two words: Project reality! I recently downloaded it and its everything Bf2 vanilla is not. EVERYONE works in squads and as a whole team!
cool walk simulator bro
/agree
robcr9
Member
+111|5969

JoshP wrote:

If you want teamwork, join a clan

all your stories are just common knowledge...... (i.e., nobody cares)

If people piss you off so much, tk them, if they're hindering your gameplay, stop QQing and stop being bad at the game

N00bkilla55404 wrote:

Ace.O.Lamb wrote:

Two words: Project reality! I recently downloaded it and its everything Bf2 vanilla is not. EVERYONE works in squads and as a whole team!
cool walk simulator bro
/agree
Josh, stop being such a dick, don't post if you can't help him. He obviously wants something. I know....you should add joshpalmer1234 to xfire, I heard he is good at BF2 and plays with these yanks called myke and jihad. They are "supposedly" good at BF2, and maybe will work as a team.

Just add that guy to xfire, and ask for vent details

GL in your mission in world domination.
Hakei
Banned
+295|5984
Teamwork is there, you just don't see it.

People always moan at me and my clannies for not being part of the 'team', we usually whore the bigger vehicles and generally rape the other team, which is a huge advantage, try capping flags on airfield with 2 J10s up and a Z10 ring raping, and try capping without either of those, I assure you the latter is the better situation to be in.

If you want your team to win - give the decent players who can actually help your team the jets/choppers and stick to ground pounding, just make sure you spot everything.
Miniman7474
Banned.
+30|6187|Daqing Oilfields?
The average BF2 clan is the same as taking 32 random people and getting them to work as a team, only you're arming them with J10s and G36E's and giving them a Vent server where they bitch and moan. Fact: The average BF2 pub clan has at least 2 "12 or under" year olds.
aLi3nZ
Member
+138|6495|New Zealand
Just team up with your clanmates if you have some. Had some epic rounds with 2 other great inf players from my clan the other day.

USMC Shotty Death Squad ftw. The three of us were 1st 2nd and 3rd.
Yellowman03
Once Again, We Meet at Last
+108|6223|Texas

aLi3nZ wrote:

Just team up with your clanmates if you have some. Had some epic rounds with 2 other great inf players from my clan the other day.

USMC Shotty Death Squad ftw. The three of us were 1st 2nd and 3rd.
ya...FM and I lulz it up in vent also. It's alot of fun raping nubs in pubs. try to find a friend and play together.
thepilot91
Member
+64|6224|Åland!
ive always been in love with sneakyness , go around alone sniper or specops knifing and fastkilling without a trace , otherwise it's just me and my F35 ...but at karkand its really nice having a squad workin good together ^^
JoshP
Banned
+176|5677|Notts, UK

Miniman7474 wrote:

The average BF2 clan is the same as taking 32 random people and getting them to work as a team, only you're arming them with J10s and G36E's and giving them a Vent server where they bitch and moan. Fact: The average BF2 pub clan has at least 2 "12 or under" year olds.
in addition the average BF2 pub clan members cry and rage about everything, and are completely retarded

srsly, is it wrong of me to hate idiots on the internet? I mean IRL, I'm pretty smart, but there just seem to be so many incredibly stupid people on the internet

Spoiler (highlight to read):
is asking for people with low IQ's to be disconnected from the intertubes a bit too Hitler-esque?
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|6641|pimelteror.de
Josh. Please just disconnect from the internet. The only retarded stupid is you tbh.
Cyrax-Sektor
Official Battlefield fanboy
+240|6137|San Antonio, Texas
BF2s server. Sadly, the BF2s server has gone too. Come now patch 1.5, bring us back Snake, RDMC, MOAB, Im_Doomed, DoctorStrangeLove and all of those other awsm BF2s fellows that I'm blanking on!

Now, back to sanity here, a few servers have some teamwork, at least people using the VoIP system that is rarely used for reasons of shyness or lack of functionality.

LegionAtWar. Skilled players, I usually get squashed under their bombs or tank rounds, but still good fun if you can get Blackhawk going from Kubra. =P@L= tags are preferred players, usually have a mic.

=SF= servers. Not as populated as before, but you'll find some of the =SF= players and server regulars using a microphone. Quite a few BF2s players have been seen there. [BF2s] tags are hard to find, unless I'm looking for 'e-love' in all the wrong places.

Also, some BF2 players find the VoIP system in-game to be poor and subpar. Many servers I've played on advertise their TeamSpeak or Ventrillo server IP so you can drop by and chat that way.

Seeing as you're not sold on Project Reality, and the download files are rather large, faring at least 1 gb for the latest .85 release, you may want to read more about it. You can find a lot of teamwork in the closely knit community, plenty of mic users, some friendly communities in the US, UK, Germany, France, China, Russia and Brazil. Those are just some of places where PR is popular, so excuse me for leaving any large communities out.

Like I mention, try some of the Legion At War and Sovereign Forces out for a try. I've found good teamwork at those two places in the past for vanilla.
I'm Jamesey
Do a Research Noob
+506|6121|Scotland!

JoshP wrote:

Miniman7474 wrote:

The average BF2 clan is the same as taking 32 random people and getting them to work as a team, only you're arming them with J10s and G36E's and giving them a Vent server where they bitch and moan. Fact: The average BF2 pub clan has at least 2 "12 or under" year olds.
in addition the average BF2 pub clan members cry and rage about everything, and are completely retarded

srsly, is it wrong of me to hate idiots on the internet? I mean IRL, I'm pretty smart, but there just seem to be so many incredibly stupid people on the internet

is asking for people with low IQ's to be disconnected from the intertubes a bit too Hitler-esque?
I don't know if you read what you type but you'd be one of the first to go.

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