bogo24dk
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Hamas would recognise Israel if it withdraws to its pre-1967 borders, a French Jewish writer said this week after meeting the exiled leader of the Palestinian Islamist movement, Khaled Meshaal.

"He told me that Hamas was prepared to recognise Israel on the lines of June 4, 1967. He told me so several times," Marek Halter told AFP on Monday.

The date refers to Palestinian demands for an end to Israeli occupation of the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem, captured in the 1967 war.

Halter's meeting with Meshaal took place in Damascus last month, on the eve of Israel's 22-day offensive, which left more than 1,330 Palestinians dead, according to Gaza medics, and vast swathes of the territory in ruins.

The writer said he informed Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni of Meshaal's comments at the start of the Gaza conflict, which ended on January 18 as Israel and Hamas declared unilateral ceasefires.

"Now they will have to decide," whether to talk to Hamas, said Halter, who said Meshaal had newly decided to support peace negotiations with Israel, for fear of "becoming irrelevant".

Hamas, which is officially committed to the destruction of the Jewish state whatever its frontiers, has controlled Gaza since June 2007 when it ousted forces loyal to Western-backed Palestinian president Mahmud Abbas.

Israel, Washington and the European Union all refuse to recognise Hamas rule, branding it a terrorist organisation.

Meshaal called in a speech aired on Arab satellite televisions last week for Western powers to lift a ban on contacts with his movement.

Middle East peace envoy Tony Blair has said the diplomatic Quartet - Europe, Russia, the United States and United Nations - would deal with Hamas if it accepts a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
KEN-JENNINGS
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Now the tough part would be Israel agreeing to relinquish control of all that area.

As long as we are talking about Hamas, how about if Israel agrees to 'recognize' Hamas as a legitimate political institution if and only if Hamas ceases launching mortars out of and into civilian areas.  Compromise, no?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Thats been the case for a good few years now, the Israelis just don't want to negotiate or return the land.
Fuck Israel
Harmor
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Look what Hamas did with the land they were relinquished?  They just use it to fire rockets from and trashed the place...

Hamas recognizing 'pre-1967' Israel is like the Mexico recognizing pre-1848 United States w.r.t. the Mexician Cession.
Poseidon
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Sounds good to me, especially Ken's idea. Tack on all terrorist-esque tactics and it sounds even better.

Too bad Hamas won't stop firing rockets.
bogo24dk
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To bad Israel is still killing civilians in Gaza.
AussieReaper
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Too bad Hamas won't stop firing rockets.

Too bad Israel won't negotiate.

Too bad Hamas fire rockets from the land they were given back.

Too bad Israel won't return the land to pre-1967 borders.

It's all too bad. Both Hamas and Israel need a kick up the ass, but the UN and US always pick one side and never help the other.

Too bad.
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bogo24dk
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Too bad Hamas won't stop firing rockets.

Too bad Israel won't negotiate.

Too bad Hamas fire rockets from the land they were given back.

Too bad Israel won't return the land to pre-1967 borders.

It's all too bad. Both Hamas and Israel need a kick up the ass, but the UN and US always pick one side and never help the other.

Too bad.
Yep
andy12
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bogo24dk wrote:

To bad Israel is still killing civilians in Gaza.
too*

And a good lesson is in order when a population of cunts can't help but fire shitty rockets every day. Oh well, I'm past caring. Let Hamas get 1 kill to every 70 deaths or whatever the ratio is, the world won't help them and they need to realise it.

Good hunting jews
san4
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Khaled Meshaal told me that Hamas is saving up money to buy a lollipop for every Israeli citizen as a goodwill gesture.

If that motherfucking scumbag really means it, let him say it publicly instead of playing games.
Poseidon
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Too bad Hamas won't stop firing rockets.

Too bad Israel won't negotiate.

Too bad Hamas fire rockets from the land they were given back.

Too bad Israel won't return the land to pre-1967 borders.

It's all too bad. Both Hamas and Israel need a kick up the ass, but the UN and US always pick one side and never help the other.

Too bad.
Don't forget it's too bad Hamas uses human shields!
AussieReaper
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It's too bad Hamas uses human shields.

It's too bad Israeli airstrike civilian populations.

Last edited by TheAussieReaper (2009-02-02 18:25:44)

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S.Lythberg
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Poseidon wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Too bad Hamas won't stop firing rockets.

Too bad Israel won't negotiate.

Too bad Hamas fire rockets from the land they were given back.

Too bad Israel won't return the land to pre-1967 borders.

It's all too bad. Both Hamas and Israel need a kick up the ass, but the UN and US always pick one side and never help the other.

Too bad.
Don't forget it's too bad Hamas uses human shields!
metal is expensive
bogo24dk
Member
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Poseidon wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Too bad Hamas won't stop firing rockets.

Too bad Israel won't negotiate.

Too bad Hamas fire rockets from the land they were given back.

Too bad Israel won't return the land to pre-1967 borders.

It's all too bad. Both Hamas and Israel need a kick up the ass, but the UN and US always pick one side and never help the other.

Too bad.
Don't forget it's too bad Hamas uses human shields!
Don't forget it's too bad IDF uses human shields!



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4333982.stm
Poseidon
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S.Lythberg wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Too bad Hamas won't stop firing rockets.

Too bad Israel won't negotiate.

Too bad Hamas fire rockets from the land they were given back.

Too bad Israel won't return the land to pre-1967 borders.

It's all too bad. Both Hamas and Israel need a kick up the ass, but the UN and US always pick one side and never help the other.

Too bad.
Don't forget it's too bad Hamas uses human shields!
metal is expensive
Yeah, I know.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? … 2FShowFull

Families are much easier!

They told the official Palestinian Authority daily newspaper that for years Hamas had used their property and homes as military installations from which the group would launch rockets into Israel, dig tunnels and store arms. According to the victims, those who tried to object were shot in the legs by Hamas operatives.
What nice people.
bogo24dk
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Poseidon wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


Don't forget it's too bad Hamas uses human shields!
metal is expensive
Yeah, I know.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite? … 2FShowFull

Families are much easier!

They told the official Palestinian Authority daily newspaper that for years Hamas had used their property and homes as military installations from which the group would launch rockets into Israel, dig tunnels and store arms. According to the victims, those who tried to object were shot in the legs by Hamas operatives.
What nice people.
Yes and we more nice people :

One testimony heard by the BBC and human rights group B'tselem describes Israeli forces shooting a woman in the head after she stepped out of her house carrying a piece of white cloth, in response to an Israeli loudhailer announcement.



The BBC has spoken to members of another family who say they are trapped in their home by fighting and have been shot at when they tried to leave to replenish dwindling water and food supplies, even during the three-hour humanitarian lull.



On Monday morning, he said the family heard an announcement over a loudspeaker.

"The Israeli army was saying: 'This is the Israeli Defence Forces, we are asking all the people to leave their homes and go to the school. Ladies first, then men.'

"We decided to send the women first, two by two," he said.

First to step outside was the wife of his cousin, Rawhiya al-Najar, 48.

"The army was about 15 metres (50 feet) away from the house or less. They shot her in the head," he said.

The woman's daughter was shot in the thigh but crawled back inside the house, he said




And many more : http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7828536.stm

Hamas should be trained by IDF in how you conduct terrorism.
Poseidon
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So basically "Oh, but that's excusable, because Israel does _________".

Nice job defending an organization that's a known terrorist group. "Defending the innocent Palestinean people" my fucking ass.
AussieReaper
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Poseidon wrote:

"Defending the innocent Palestinean people" my fucking ass.
How was shooting Rawhiya al-Najar in the head defending the innocent Israeli people?
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bogo24dk
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Poseidon wrote:

So basically "Oh, but that's excusable, because Israel does _________".

Nice job defending an organization that's a known terrorist group. "Defending the innocent Palestinean people" my fucking ass.
You don't get do you. I am not defending Hamas . But i am sick and tiered of the lies of bias people who want to make IDF look like saints.
IDF was created from a bunch of terrorist and they still are. Any one who denies that are to blind or too bigot to see that.

Hamas can go and die for all i care.
Poseidon
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

"Defending the innocent Palestinean people" my fucking ass.
How was shooting Rawhiya al-Najar in the head defending the innocent Israeli people?
I'm referring to him. He doesn't give a shit about the Palestinean people. He's just another person who has an extreme hate for Israel for most likely little to no reason. Well, there is probably one reason, but I'm not gonna pull that card.

I know Israel has done plenty of bad shit. I acknowledge that. Many others do as well. It's war, after all... I'm sure the allied forces didn't exactly spread flowers and candy to all the innocent German people. But to try and deflect the fact that Hamas uses human shields (which is KNOWN and is COMMON KNOWLEDGE) with some strewn out story just proves my point. He wants to deflect all blame placed on Hamas back onto the IDF.

Last edited by Poseidon (2009-02-02 18:32:06)

bogo24dk
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Poseidon wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

"Defending the innocent Palestinean people" my fucking ass.
How was shooting Rawhiya al-Najar in the head defending the innocent Israeli people?
I'm referring to him. He doesn't give a shit about the Palestinean people. He's just another person who has an extreme hate for Israel for most likely little to no reason. Well, there is probably one reason, but I'm not gonna pull that card.

I know Israel has done plenty of bad shit. I acknowledge that. Many others do as well. It's war, after all... I'm sure the allied forces didn't exactly spread flowers and candy to all the innocent German people. But to try and deflect the fact that Hamas uses human shields (which is KNOWN and is COMMON KNOWLEDGE) with some strewn out story just proves my point. He wants to deflect all blame placed on Hamas back onto the IDF.
Take a look around and see who i denying what. You got angry cause all the things that you say about hamas can be said about IDF too. So stfu please.
Poseidon
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bogo24dk wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:


How was shooting Rawhiya al-Najar in the head defending the innocent Israeli people?
I'm referring to him. He doesn't give a shit about the Palestinean people. He's just another person who has an extreme hate for Israel for most likely little to no reason. Well, there is probably one reason, but I'm not gonna pull that card.

I know Israel has done plenty of bad shit. I acknowledge that. Many others do as well. It's war, after all... I'm sure the allied forces didn't exactly spread flowers and candy to all the innocent German people. But to try and deflect the fact that Hamas uses human shields (which is KNOWN and is COMMON KNOWLEDGE) with some strewn out story just proves my point. He wants to deflect all blame placed on Hamas back onto the IDF.
Take a look around and see who i denying what. You got angry cause all the things that you say about hamas can be said about IDF too. So stfu please.
Yeah, when you see Hamas dropping leaflets on houses warning people to exit the area and setting up field clinics, you let me know.
AussieReaper
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Poseidon wrote:

Yeah, when you see Hamas dropping leaflets on houses warning people to exit the area and setting up field clinics, you let me know.
Won't happen.

Hamas don't have the aircraft to drop the leaflets or the medics to set up field clinics. Or tanks to roll through neighbourhoods.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
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TheAussieReaper wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

Yeah, when you see Hamas dropping leaflets on houses warning people to exit the area and setting up field clinics, you let me know.
Won't happen.

Hamas don't have the aircraft to drop the leaflets or the medics to set up field clinics. Or tanks to roll through neighbourhoods.
True, but they could attach little paper notes on the Qassam rockets. Maybe a Hallmark card for when they land near a kindergarten!
bogo24dk
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Poseidon wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

Poseidon wrote:


I'm referring to him. He doesn't give a shit about the Palestinean people. He's just another person who has an extreme hate for Israel for most likely little to no reason. Well, there is probably one reason, but I'm not gonna pull that card.

I know Israel has done plenty of bad shit. I acknowledge that. Many others do as well. It's war, after all... I'm sure the allied forces didn't exactly spread flowers and candy to all the innocent German people. But to try and deflect the fact that Hamas uses human shields (which is KNOWN and is COMMON KNOWLEDGE) with some strewn out story just proves my point. He wants to deflect all blame placed on Hamas back onto the IDF.
Take a look around and see who i denying what. You got angry cause all the things that you say about hamas can be said about IDF too. So stfu please.
Yeah, when you see Hamas dropping leaflets on houses warning people to exit the area and setting up field clinics, you let me know.
They said that after the Israeli army first took the town on Saturday night soldiers had ordered about 100 members of the clan to gather in a single house owned by Wael Samouni around dawn on Sunday.

At 6.35am on Monday the house was repeatedly shelled with appalling loss of civilian life.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … ed-70.html

Are you talking about this kind of warning ?

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