Yes we do have a very tight constraint on guns but not so tight that it's impossible to get either a gun or ammo for it ... you have to member of a gun club and have a licence aka the government knows who have what guns, no regulations needed for tracking ammo seeing as we have a better system in place.Stingray24 wrote:
No good argument against this act? Perhaps not from your perspective, as Norway already has tight constraints on guns, yes? So of course you wouldn't care about ammo tracking because you're already ok with restrictions on the weapons themselves.
Then maybe you shouldn't have been so negative towards gun registration for all these years and maybe the ammo act wouldn't have been necessary ...Stingray24 wrote:
1. Gun registration is not currently required. Handgun purchases are checked through a state system, long guns via National Instant Check System (NICS). However, this check is not maintained in a permanent database, the merchant is simply notified whether to allow or deny the sale. If/When the government puts gun registration in place, they can find unregistered guns by ammo purchase records, instantly making a citizen a criminal simply for owning a weapon. Bottom line: easier to remove 2nd amendment rights.
Why on earth would you need to stock up on ammo? ... having a small amount at home for protection and buy whatever you need when you go for that weekend shootout ...Stingray24 wrote:
2. If I stock up on ammo I'll have the state police knocking on my door playing 20 questions about a legal purchase. I'm not a felon, I don't deserve that.
Worst case scenario but i think the ammo lobbyist won't let that happen and if the bill pr round gets to high the very lobbyist that's pushing this through congress will also loose money, so highly unlikely the bill pr round will skyrocket ...Stingray24 wrote:
3. With this in place, all the government has to do is jack up the tax through the stratosphere and no one can load their weapons.
Only downside to the act as far as I'm concerned ... see answer to #1 alsoStingray24 wrote:
4. Handloading ammo will be illegal. Countless hunters and target sportsmen hand load their ammo for cost savings. Removal of freedom.
With all the deaths by guns incidents in the US they have to do something, maybe the freedom to do whatever you want is outdated, with freedom comes responsibility, by the looks of it not all your citizens share opinion ...Stingray24 wrote:
It's not that hard to understand. There's simply a fundamental difference in thinking between how someone in Europe who has accepted government intrusion in this area and a US citizen who has never been tracked by his firearms or ammo unless they have a federal firearms license.
See answer to #3 and you guys need to wake up to realize you are not living under the same conditions as the founding fathers did ... your laws are hopelessly outdated and your paranoid fascination with the 2nd amendment is laughable tbh ...Stingray24 wrote:
A good friend of mine put part of this in perspective quite nicely. See below:
They are taking the secondary approach that Govt uses when they cant ban something. They regulate and tax the hell out of it until it becomes too much of a regulatory PITA or is too costly to continue. (under the guise of security... see Ben Franklin for his view on that)
In a way, they are attempting "the sudafed approach": lets make it so cumbersome and/or expensive that they cant buy what they need to do thier deed. Serializing and tracking these are going to be a huge, expensive proposition that will dramatically increase the cost of the ammo. In this case make that $1.50 50 round box of .22LR plinkers cost $15, or the box of .223 ammo cost what a box of .50BMG currently costs (read: not cost effective). You attack the supply, and the manufacturers go under; nobody can afford to shoot, nobody buys guns.
And a box of 50 rounds will cost you 25 cents more, maybe buy your friend a calculator?
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