FatherTed
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … -eBay.html

lolDailyMail wrote:

In her finest hour, she survived the threat of Argentine attack and became host to the historic signing of the surrender when Britain reclaimed the Falklands in 1982.

But now HMS Intrepid has come to the end of her distinguished career serving the nation.

In what will be a poignant sight for those who served on the assault ship, she is being taken apart in Britain's biggest recycling project.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Intrepid_(L11)

https://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/upload/img_400/assault_20070212162228.jpg


We've nothing major on the way, and yet more ships dropping out of circulation.

Although obviously the U.K is allied with some of the strongest powers on earth, is it a good idea to be letting certain areas of our Armed Forces slip away?

Thoughts/Opinions - Do we need a Navy?
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FatherTed wrote:

Thoughts/Opinions - Do we need a Navy?
nope, no army, no guns either.
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I think it's a mistake to downsize too much.
FatherTed
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Bit of background info on the Royal Navy : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Navy

For example, less than 200 years ago the Navy was the Navy in the world, easily the strongest. While still highly skilled, at present the UK only has 82 active ships. less than 50 years ago we had double that number.
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50 years ago you guys also controlled like half of Africa
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FatherTed wrote:

In her finest hour, she survived the threat of Argentine attack
rofl.  wat?
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aw I got excited when I saw the word Intrepid. Thought you were talking about the USS Intrepid.
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Dodge Intrepid?










that's a classy automobile.
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usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

In her finest hour, she survived the threat of Argentine attack
rofl.  wat?

lolDailyMail wrote:

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usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

In her finest hour, she survived the threat of Argentine attack
rofl.  wat?
Serge hurled a sheep at it with a catapult. It almost got blood on the pristine paint.
Dilbert_X
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Those ships were old 20 years ago.
Being replaced by
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Albion_(L14)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ocean_(L12)

Anyone else have a Airfix HMS Fearless?
(Oh right its just me, oh well, there you go....)

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FatherTed wrote:

Although obviously the U.K is allied with some of the strongest powers on earth, is it a good idea to be letting certain areas of our Armed Forces slip away?

Thoughts/Opinions - Do we need a Navy?
How about taking the Millions/Billions and putting it into the disgraceful NHS to actually save lives. Or build some fucking schools to educate our kids instead on spending it on instruments of war?
The UK is not going to be invaded. Simple. The UK has Nukes. These ships are used to project UK power around the world and keep the UK up there with the big boys. That was cool when there was a shit load of North Sea oil to bolster the economy. UK citizens are already some of the highest taxed and hardest worked in the Europe. Personally Id prefer my taxes go to provide a better life for my family. I don't want to see UK warships trailing the US around the world on her imperialist ventures. Fuck that!
And to those who say those warships are protecting my family, I Call bullshit on that one. Specially living in Northern Ireland.
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DoctaStrangelove wrote:

usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

In her finest hour, she survived the threat of Argentine attack
rofl.  wat?
Serge hurled a sheep at it with a catapult. It almost got blood on the pristine paint.
lewl....thats not nice to treat their women like that.
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usmarine wrote:

DoctaStrangelove wrote:

usmarine wrote:


rofl.  wat?
Serge hurled a sheep at it with a catapult. It almost got blood on the pristine paint.
lewl....thats not nice to treat their women like that.
Argentina dude. Not Wales.
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JahManRed wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Although obviously the U.K is allied with some of the strongest powers on earth, is it a good idea to be letting certain areas of our Armed Forces slip away?

Thoughts/Opinions - Do we need a Navy?
How about taking the Millions/Billions and putting it into the disgraceful NHS to actually save lives. Or build some fucking schools to educate our kids instead on spending it on instruments of war?
The UK is not going to be invaded. Simple. The UK has Nukes. These ships are used to project UK power around the world and keep the UK up there with the big boys. That was cool when there was a shit load of North Sea oil to bolster the economy. UK citizens are already some of the highest taxed and hardest worked in the Europe. Personally Id prefer my taxes go to provide a better life for my family. I don't want to see UK warships trailing the US around the world on her imperialist ventures. Fuck that!
And to those who say those warships are protecting my family, I Call bullshit on that one. Specially living in Northern Ireland.
Throwing money at a problem doesnt mean it will get fixed, NHS had a shit load chucked at it and people still want moar. 

People also bitched about trident being renewed with the excuse

''the americans wont let anyone bomb britian''.

MY ARSE!
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Once out of Afghanistan and Iraq I would like to see the Army massively scaled down, a ground army is not needed for anything other than holding control directly over land, i.e. invading someone. Britain does need a navy though, its an island, it also needs an air force.

If the army was scaled down to specialistic division such as sniper, special forces etc with less need for grunts imagine the savings the military would make.
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Vilham wrote:

Once out of Afghanistan and Iraq I would like to see the Army massively scaled down, a ground army is not needed for anything other than holding control directly over land, i.e. invading someone. Britain does need a navy though, its an island, it also needs an air force.

If the army was scaled down to specialistic division such as sniper, special forces etc with less need for grunts imagine the savings the military would make.
Yeah, but if you downsize the ground forces you'd:

A) Have a load of uneployment from those let go.
B) Have no ground defence if required.

The current number of troops within the regular and territorial army is something like 150k, whether that includes tank and vehicle crews I'm not sure. Downsizing would not be a good move for the military in any of its branches.
Vilham
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Exactly, not a HUGE amount of unemployed, with the money saved Im pretty damn sure jobs could be created, a soldier costs a lot of money to maintain.

WTF does a country need an army for, occupation that's what. UK has nukes if someone gets past our navy (3rd largest in the world) and air force, NO ONE is going to invade us. Ground forces are pointless.
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usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

In her finest hour, she survived the threat of Argentine attack
rofl.  wat?
She also survived the threat of a Nuclear war in the '80s and a continuous assaut by corrosion from sea water.  It was a hell of a ship in her day and not many of these new ships would have held up against a threat of attack from Argentina, let alone 30 years of possible Nuclear attacks that didn't happen.
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Vilham wrote:

Exactly, not a HUGE amount of unemployed, with the money saved Im pretty damn sure jobs could be created, a soldier costs a lot of money to maintain.
Rather less than say a pilot and his aircraft or a sailor and his boat.

Armies are cheap, and they soak up a good number of unskilled young blokes who would otherwise be unemployed and causing trouble.

With elements of 3 Commando Brigade embarked, Intrepid took part in the amphibious landings at San Carlos Water. HMS Intrepid was under attack in San Carlos Water on 25 May 1982, with a few fatalities, mainly Royal Marines (citation?). The Nordic Ferry was also under attack. She came under heavy air attack once again during the operation, and was the main participant in the landings at Bluff Cove on 6 June. Margaret Thatcher and Sandy Woodward commended the efforts of the ships involved in the San Carlos attacks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Intrepid_(L11)
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Vilham wrote:

WTF does a country need an army for, occupation that's what. UK has nukes if someone gets past our navy (3rd largest in the world) and air force, NO ONE is going to invade us.
HuH?  You suggest nuking your own contry should your navy fail?  GREAT PLAN! /sarcasm

As the last 70 years have demonstrated, nuclear weaponry does not negate the need for conventional forces.  If you fail to understand this, you really need to read some history.
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RAIMIUS wrote:

Vilham wrote:

WTF does a country need an army for, occupation that's what. UK has nukes if someone gets past our navy (3rd largest in the world) and air force, NO ONE is going to invade us.
HuH?  You suggest nuking your own contry should your navy fail?  GREAT PLAN! /sarcasm

As the last 70 years have demonstrated, nuclear weaponry does not negate the need for conventional forces.  If you fail to understand this, you really need to read some history.
Um pretty sure he meant launch a ICBM at whoever was dumb enough to invade them.
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When i seen this thread
i thought that it was the USS Intrepid, the Aicraft Carrier used as a musuem and is docked in New York
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henno13 wrote:

When i seen this thread
i thought that it was the USS Intrepid, the Aicraft Carrier used as a musuem and is docked in New York
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Vilham
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RAIMIUS wrote:

Vilham wrote:

WTF does a country need an army for, occupation that's what. UK has nukes if someone gets past our navy (3rd largest in the world) and air force, NO ONE is going to invade us.
HuH?  You suggest nuking your own contry should your navy fail?  GREAT PLAN! /sarcasm

As the last 70 years have demonstrated, nuclear weaponry does not negate the need for conventional forces.  If you fail to understand this, you really need to read some history.
Indeed. That's so true.  /sarcasm

That's why since the countries that own nukes have had them, none of them have been invaded.

I believe the phrase is /fail

They are called a deterrent.

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