Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6852|San Diego, CA, USA

Technology Review wrote:

Geron, a California-based cell-therapy company that has been working with embryonic stem cells for the last decade, finally received clearance from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to begin clinical trials of its cell-based therapy for spinal-cord injury.

The trial is limited to eight patients with newly acquired spinal-cord injuries who will receive injections of the cell therapy, called GRNOPC1, within two weeks of their accident. GRNOPC1 is made by transforming embryonic stem cells into oligodendrocytes--a type of brain cell that wraps itself around neurons, forming a fatty insulation layer that allows electrical messages to be conducted throughout the nervous system. In many spinal-cord injuries, these cells are damaged, but the underlying nerve cells remain intact. These cells are then injected into the site of the injury, coating exposed nerves and restoring communication to the nervous system.
Source: http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/editors/22526/

Comment: Experimenting with potential humans to me is unethical.  I wish they could use adult stem cells or the stem cells in our noses instead of embryos, but this is what our president is allowing.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6750|Chicago, IL
About damn time
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

S.Lythberg wrote:

About damn time
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5889

Paralyzed rats walk again after getting stem cells and other chemicals.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/06/ … 4662.shtml
Great. If rats are given a second chance to walk so should people.
Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7020
This stuff is a slippery slope... I think it's very cool when they can help people with their medical conditions...
but i worry it will fall into the wrong hands...
and we will get and army of Killer Oprahs... or a maniacal band of regis philbin clones bent on destruction...lol
Love is the answer
Burwhale
Save the BlobFish!
+136|6526|Brisneyland
Surely there are no ethical problems with doctors culturing olfactory nerve cells from the patient and then injecting them back into the patient. I have seen the video of the rat that had this treatment and it is truly amazing

although this one was done with embryonic stem cells, nasal nerve cells do the same thing without the ethical dilemmas.
mtb0minime
minimember
+2,418|6958

Turquoise wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

About damn time
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7025|Sydney, Australia

Turquoise wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

About damn time
QFT. Now, if some of these folks work on fixing Tinnitus, I'll be fucking set.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6978|Canberra, AUS

Turquoise wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

About goddamn time
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6985|Disaster Free Zone
Look a Human:


https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44722000/jpg/_44722657_stemcellresearch226spl.jpg

Ethical dilemma my fucking arse.
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6878|London
Hopefully just the beginning, they need to push stem cells as far as they can.
The#1Spot
Member
+105|6843|byah
I though helping people was ethical? Now if this is successful how much will it cost?

Last edited by The#1Spot (2009-01-24 08:40:11)

SealXo
Member
+309|6839

mtb0minime wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

About damn time
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6750|Chicago, IL

mcminty wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

About damn time
QFT. Now, if some of these folks work on fixing Tinnitus, I'll be fucking set.
Let me know when they fix that, drives me nuts when it gets really quiet
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7025|Sydney, Australia

S.Lythberg wrote:

mcminty wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


QFT. Now, if some of these folks work on fixing Tinnitus, I'll be fucking set.
Let me know when they fix that, drives me nuts when it gets really quiet
I'm sure you'll hear. I'll be shouting it from every fucking rooftop.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6955|USA

Harmor wrote:

Technology Review wrote:

Geron, a California-based cell-therapy company that has been working with embryonic stem cells for the last decade, finally received clearance from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to begin clinical trials of its cell-based therapy for spinal-cord injury.

The trial is limited to eight patients with newly acquired spinal-cord injuries who will receive injections of the cell therapy, called GRNOPC1, within two weeks of their accident. GRNOPC1 is made by transforming embryonic stem cells into oligodendrocytes--a type of brain cell that wraps itself around neurons, forming a fatty insulation layer that allows electrical messages to be conducted throughout the nervous system. In many spinal-cord injuries, these cells are damaged, but the underlying nerve cells remain intact. These cells are then injected into the site of the injury, coating exposed nerves and restoring communication to the nervous system.
Source: http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/editors/22526/

Comment: Experimenting with potential humans to me is unethical.  I wish they could use adult stem cells or the stem cells in our noses instead of embryos, but this is what our president is allowing.
Perhaps you would feel differently if it were your kid that was dying
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|6923|Mhz

I must say I'm both surprised and pleased that the vast majority on here support this kind of research. The good it can do is truely astonishing, my heart sinks a little every time someone opposes this sort of thing on 'ethical' grounds, to me allowing someone to suffer or even die of something that could potentially be cured by this sort of research is unethical, creating stem cells for research/medical treatment is not.

Last edited by TheEternalPessimist (2009-01-24 18:13:14)

Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6841|Long Island, New York

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I must say I'm both surprised and pleased that the vast majority on here support this kind of research. The good it can do is truely astonishing, my heart sinks a little everything someone opposes this sort of thing on 'ethical' grounds, to me allowing someone to suffer or even die of something that could potentially be cured by this sort of research is unethical, creating stem cells for research/medical treatment is not.
A-fucking-greed. It feels like the opposition is absolutely ridiculous. Especially when these embryos were going to be thrown out most likely anyways from what I hear.
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6878|London

Poseidon wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I must say I'm both surprised and pleased that the vast majority on here support this kind of research. The good it can do is truely astonishing, my heart sinks a little everything someone opposes this sort of thing on 'ethical' grounds, to me allowing someone to suffer or even die of something that could potentially be cured by this sort of research is unethical, creating stem cells for research/medical treatment is not.
A-fucking-greed. It feels like the opposition is absolutely ridiculous. Especially when these embryos were going to be thrown out most likely anyways from what I hear.
The main and pretty much only problem is the slippery slope argument. How long before we become so reliant on the wonder of stem cells that we grow embryos just to harvest them. The availability of non-embryonic (so placental etc) stem cells is completely inadequate for any practical use.

Stuff like ''does an embryo count as a human and so it is subject to the same rights?'' is quite simple in my mind. No. At 5 days it's not human yet.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6852|San Diego, CA, USA

DrunkFace wrote:

Look a Human:


https://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44722000/jpg/_44722657_stemcellresearch226spl.jpg

Ethical dilemma my fucking arse.
You were once that small...
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6878|London

Harmor wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

Look a Human:


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/4 … 226spl.jpg

Ethical dilemma my fucking arse.
You were once that small...
And at that stage if he got harvested to save someone's life I don't think he would have minded.
twiistaaa
Member
+87|6972|mexico

Harmor wrote:

Comment: Experimenting with potential humans to me is unethical.  I wish they could use adult stem cells or the stem cells in our noses instead of embryos, but this is what our president is allowing.
considering something like 30-60%  of fertilized eggs aren't even  implanted in  the uterus  i suppose god's own system is inherently unethical no?
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6594|Éire
I have no problem with this whatsoever to be honest.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6709|North Carolina

Poseidon wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I must say I'm both surprised and pleased that the vast majority on here support this kind of research. The good it can do is truely astonishing, my heart sinks a little everything someone opposes this sort of thing on 'ethical' grounds, to me allowing someone to suffer or even die of something that could potentially be cured by this sort of research is unethical, creating stem cells for research/medical treatment is not.
A-fucking-greed. It feels like the opposition is absolutely ridiculous. Especially when these embryos were going to be thrown out most likely anyways from what I hear.
When South Park did an episode against it, that was pretty much the last straw for me.  I had humored Parker and Stone's anti-abortion stances in previous episodes, but they really just went off the deep end with the Reeve episode.

They were so much better before they got political.

But anyway, sensible, practical people support this research.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5889

I look forward to the day when we could harvest organs from clones of ourselves.

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