steelie34
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Obama signs order to close Guantanamo in a year

WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama began overhauling U.S. treatment of terror suspects Thursday, signing orders to close the Guantanamo Bay detention center, review military war crimes trials and ban the harshest interrogation methods.

With his action, Obama started changing how the United States prosecutes and questions al-Qaida, Taliban or other foreign fighters who pose a threat to Americans — and overhauling America's image abroad, battered by accusations of the use of torture and the indefinite detention of suspects at the Guantanamo prison in Cuba.

"The message that we are sending the world is that the United States intends to prosecute the ongoing struggle against violence and terrorism and we are going to do so vigilantly and we are going to do so effectively and we are going to do so in a manner that is consistent with our values and our ideals," the president said.

The centerpiece order would close the much-maligned Guantanamo facility within a year, a complicated process with many unanswered questions that was nonetheless a key campaign promise of Obama's. The administration already has suspended trials for terrorist suspects at Guantanamo for 120 days pending a review of the military tribunals.

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ATG
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There will just be another location for what they were doing. One not advertised.
steelie34
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ATG wrote:

There will just be another location for what they were doing. One not advertised.
i agree... and i'm sure there always have been/will be other undisclosed locations.  gitmo's downfall was only because of the publicity.
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Bradt3hleader
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I say torture those fucking terrorists then decapitate them like they do to US troops.

Fuck them, I knew Obaba would screw stuff up...unless he opens a new one and has skull **cking and a$$ raping a commpn interrogation method in some secret camp...
Kmar
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ATG wrote:

There will just be another location for what they were doing. One not advertised.

Kmarion wrote:

It looks like he is closing the CIA "blacksites" today.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/ja … ack-sites/
It's a matter of what you choose to believe.
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loubot
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Let them go. They will evantually get JDAM'ed sooner or later.

What I do not get is the President wants other countries to grant asylum for some of the prisoners. They have a risk of being tortured if they return to their native land. (yahoo / Asooc. Press article)
Ajax_the_Great1
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Lame. I liked Gitmo only for the fact that it pissed certain people off.
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Does this mean we don't get to view America as evil anymore?
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
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steelie34 wrote:

ATG wrote:

There will just be another location for what they were doing. One not advertised.
i agree... and i'm sure there always have been/will be other undisclosed locations.  gitmo's downfall was only because of the publicity.
While Im still unhappy with the overall idea of things in that article, you are right.
Roger Lesboules
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Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:

Lame. I liked Gitmo only for the fact that it pissed certain people off.
Same here! Well the fact that it pissed of some people and the fact that they were asking the REAL question
Poseidon
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CameronPoe wrote:

Does this mean we don't get to view America as evil anymore?
I'm sure you'll find a way.
Mekstizzle
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Bradt3hleader wrote:

I say torture those fucking terrorists then decapitate them like they do to US troops.

Fuck them, I knew Obaba would screw stuff up...unless he opens a new one and has skull **cking and a$$ raping a commpn interrogation method in some secret camp...
One of the main reasons we're fighting them, is because they do shit like that, to then go and suggest we do the same shit, well it puts you firmly in their camp. Go sign up for the Taliban and get those marine bars and slogans out of your sig you waste...
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Bradt3hleader wrote:

I say torture those fucking terrorists then decapitate them like they do to US troops.

Fuck them, I knew Obaba would screw stuff up...unless he opens a new one and has skull **cking and a$$ raping a commpn interrogation method in some secret camp...
One of the main reasons we're fighting them, is because they do shit like that, to then go and suggest we do the same shit, well it puts you firmly in their camp. Go sign up for the Taliban and get those marine bars and slogans out of your sig you waste...
He's a genuine Swiss Marine!
rammunition
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Bradt3hleader wrote:

I say torture those fucking terrorists then decapitate them like they do to US troops.

Fuck them, I knew Obaba would screw stuff up...unless he opens a new one and has skull **cking and a$$ raping a commpn interrogation method in some secret camp...
you got EVIDENCE that the guys in Gito are terrorists???

i though not
Catbox
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rammunition wrote:

Bradt3hleader wrote:

I say torture those fucking terrorists then decapitate them like they do to US troops.

Fuck them, I knew Obaba would screw stuff up...unless he opens a new one and has skull **cking and a$$ raping a commpn interrogation method in some secret camp...
you got EVIDENCE that the guys in Gito are terrorists???

i though not
do you have evidence they aren't...?    back under your rock...lol
Love is the answer
FatherTed
xD
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[TUF]Catbox wrote:

rammunition wrote:

Bradt3hleader wrote:

I say torture those fucking terrorists then decapitate them like they do to US troops.

Fuck them, I knew Obaba would screw stuff up...unless he opens a new one and has skull **cking and a$$ raping a commpn interrogation method in some secret camp...
you got EVIDENCE that the guys in Gito are terrorists???

i though not
do you have evidence they aren't...?    back under your rock...lol
Innocent until proven guilty.

Your courts follow that yeh?
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Catbox
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Gitmo is closing... all the boyscouts will be set free...lol
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FatherTed
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FatherTed wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

rammunition wrote:


you got EVIDENCE that the guys in Gito are terrorists???

i though not
do you have evidence they aren't...?    back under your rock...lol
Innocent until proven guilty.

Your courts follow that yeh?
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Kmar
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FatherTed wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

do you have evidence they aren't...?    back under your rock...lol
Innocent until proven guilty.

Your courts follow that yeh?
Yes our US civilian courts follow that.
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13rin
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FatherTed wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

rammunition wrote:


you got EVIDENCE that the guys in Gito are terrorists???

i though not
do you have evidence they aren't...?    back under your rock...lol
Innocent until proven guilty.

Your courts follow that yeh?
Ain't US Citizens.  Shit, if we followed their law we'd probablly be beheading them with curved knives then posting it on a web video.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
FatherTed
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

[TUF]Catbox wrote:


do you have evidence they aren't...?    back under your rock...lol
Innocent until proven guilty.

Your courts follow that yeh?
Ain't US Citizens.  Shit, if we followed their law we'd probablly be beheading them with curved knives then posting it on a web video.
Thankfully you try and be better than that
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Scorpion0x17
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

Ain't US Citizens.
Which is where the Geneva Convention kicks in.

And what does that say?

OH, yeah... "Innocent until proven guilty."
13rin
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FatherTed wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:


Innocent until proven guilty.

Your courts follow that yeh?
Ain't US Citizens.  Shit, if we followed their law we'd probablly be beheading them with curved knives then posting it on a web video.
Thankfully you try and be better than that
And I think we have been.  Again, why should we hold those who want my countrymen exterminated with the same elevated status when they don't even allow their women right equal to theirs?
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FatherTed
xD
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DBBrinson1 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Ain't US Citizens.  Shit, if we followed their law we'd probablly be beheading them with curved knives then posting it on a web video.
Thankfully you try and be better than that
And I think we have been.  Again, why should we hold those who want my countrymen exterminated with the same elevated status when they don't even allow their women right equal to theirs?
Because if you don't, are you any better than the other side?
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