BF2S Forums Letter to Employees

cpt.fass1 wrote:

It's just the poor who get the money? Wait what about the bank bail out, that was a huge chunk of change that went to the rich, and what happened with that? Mass layoffs in the banking industry and beyond common sense underwriting, meaning it's next to impossible to get money borrowed to buy a house..

The Minimum wage in this country has gone up, cost have gone up, but the middle class's salaries have not gone up? Making these people poor.

Lowing has a build the house from the roof down mentality, we've tried that for the past 8 years. A trickle down effect doesn't work, we need to re-build this country from the ground up.  Special notes to Enron and most of the "Rich" who steal from the middle class to make them poor.

lowing wrote:

I am against the bail outs 100%

I am all for giving the taxpayers the money they paid in taxes for the past 5 years. This means every penny I paid I get back, every penny you paid you get back, and every penny the poor paid, they get back, and every penny the RICH paid they will also get it back. Somehow, I am guessing this will not be "fair" right?

lowing wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

It's just the poor who get the money? Wait what about the bank bail out, that was a huge chunk of change that went to the rich, and what happened with that? Mass layoffs in the banking industry and beyond common sense underwriting, meaning it's next to impossible to get money borrowed to buy a house..

The Minimum wage in this country has gone up, cost have gone up, but the middle class's salaries have not gone up? Making these people poor.

Lowing has a build the house from the roof down mentality, we've tried that for the past 8 years. A trickle down effect doesn't work, we need to re-build this country from the ground up.  Special notes to Enron and most of the "Rich" who steal from the middle class to make them poor.

I am against the bail outs 100%

I am all for giving the taxpayers the money they paid in taxes for the past 5 years. This means every penny I paid I get back, every penny you paid you get back, and every penny the poor paid, they get back, and every penny the RICH paid they will also get it back. Somehow, I am guessing this will not be "fair" right?

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2009-01-22 06:38:26)

cpt.fass1 wrote:

lowing wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

It's just the poor who get the money? Wait what about the bank bail out, that was a huge chunk of change that went to the rich, and what happened with that? Mass layoffs in the banking industry and beyond common sense underwriting, meaning it's next to impossible to get money borrowed to buy a house..

The Minimum wage in this country has gone up, cost have gone up, but the middle class's salaries have not gone up? Making these people poor.

Lowing has a build the house from the roof down mentality, we've tried that for the past 8 years. A trickle down effect doesn't work, we need to re-build this country from the ground up.  Special notes to Enron and most of the "Rich" who steal from the middle class to make them poor.

I am against the bail outs 100%

I am all for giving the taxpayers the money they paid in taxes for the past 5 years. This means every penny I paid I get back, every penny you paid you get back, and every penny the poor paid, they get back, and every penny the RICH paid they will also get it back. Somehow, I am guessing this will not be "fair" right?

What taxes? Federal, property, or state tax?

So your complaint isn't really about the poor, your complaint is about our government?  You a Constitutionist, you'd rather see less government and free market?
Income taxes, yes I want less govt.

I am an aircraft mechanic, I work on anything that flies, and not everything that flies carries passengers.
And forget the Car crash, lowing how stable is your job really? With a failing econimy how much do you really think people are going to fly?

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Car crash? My arms ae gone?  Wow, it is a good thing I have sick leave, which turns into short term disability which then turns into long term diability. THen I have benefits from the govt for cross training and lets not forget my social security. Whewwww!

So you'll be on disability payments? Mooching off the government pretty quick there aren't you? I thought you were against that sort of thing.

Those handicapped car spaces don't belong to you, they were paid for by the rich tax payers too, by the way.

Last edited by lowing (2009-01-22 06:48:58)

lowing wrote:

Yup yer right and since I am a tax payer,  that paid for those parking spaces, I guess  Iwould be able to use what I paid for.

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yup yer right and since I am a tax payer,  that paid for those parking spaces, I guess  Iwould be able to use what I paid for.

Weird, I thought we agreed the poor also pay taxes. But you don't want them to receive any govt. assistance. So why take it when it's available to you, but deny them access?

lowing wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yup yer right and since I am a tax payer,  that paid for those parking spaces, I guess  Iwould be able to use what I paid for.

Weird, I thought we agreed the poor also pay taxes. But you don't want them to receive any govt. assistance. So why take it when it's available to you, but deny them access?

Whoa whoa whoa, the poor do not pay taxes, what exactly is being taxed? The welfare money they recieve is MY money already, so they are not paying shit, I AM.

Also, like I said and you want to ignore, disability is insurance I pay for, not the govt. SS is something I pay for.

Varegg wrote:

You deal only with absolutes and that is a great weakness in your arguments ...

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Weird, I thought we agreed the poor also pay taxes. But you don't want them to receive any govt. assistance. So why take it when it's available to you, but deny them access?

Whoa whoa whoa, the poor do not pay taxes, what exactly is being taxed? The welfare money they recieve is MY money already, so they are not paying shit, I AM.

Also, like I said and you want to ignore, disability is insurance I pay for, not the govt. SS is something I pay for.

The poor do pay taxes lowing. The poor have jobs, work hard, work long hours. They just have a lesser income. They still pay taxes. To believe otherwise is living in a fantasy land.

Disability payments can also come in the form of government assistance, unless that's been stripped away from the US health care system, or was never part of it...

TheAussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Noooooooo the poor do not have jobs, they are on assisted living. THey do not pay taxes, they live off of us.

Maybe so, but MY disablity is paid for by ME, not YOU.

Not all of your disability benefits are directly covered by insurance. Unless you are paying huge premiums.

Continue the fantasy land day dream where the poor don't work and are just leeches undeserving of life...

Because hey, you'd feel better with a fatter pay cheque.

Last edited by lowing (2009-01-22 07:27:41)

lowing wrote:

LOL, my disability is paid for by me in the form of insurance. Nothing more needs to be said about it, I pay for my insurance. YOu gave me a scenario where I couldn't work, and gave you my solution I can not halp it if it turns nto a success story. I will try harder next time not to have insurance or a plan.

So in your world, the poor work and contribute? How do they d othat on welfare that I provide? I also never said anything about anyone not deserving life. Everyone deservres the life they provide for themselves. How much more fair can I be?

I would love to be able to keep more of the money that I worked or and EARNED. Call me crazy, I like providing a quality life for me and my family as well.

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

You distort and make opinion into facts lowing ... you cant see a problem or topic from both sides and on objectivity you score a big fat F-

You deal only with absolutes and that is a great weakness in your arguments ...

I clearly said "MOST POOR PEOPLE", allowing the exceptions that some people are not in control. You are the one who refuses to accept the fact that MOST PEOPLE are in their situations as a direct result of their decisions or their lack of it.

I guess you have a hard time admitting this, so it can't be true.

That is because most people in that situation do not want to be in that situation lowing, i refuse to believe that anyone really want to be in that situation ... and you keep using "most poor people" and the word fact in the same sentence without anything to back up your statement, you cant make up facts lowing ...