lowing
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


You got some kind of real evidence for that assertion?
Sure, look at the prisons, and the low income, high crime nieghborhoods and take note as to who mostly resides there.

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Maybe it is true in the states. But it's not like that in the UK. Poverty cuts across ethnicities here.
1. learn to quote properly.
2. I've highlighted what I believe is the key factor.
hmmmm, dunno what happened there, thanks for fixin it.

regardless as to why or the what the key factor is, what I said is the truth. Personally I don't care,the fact remains.

I can tell ya, if it were white people with those stats, I would be looking for black nieghborhoods to live in.
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lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

You got some kind of real evidence for that assertion?
Sure, look at the prisons, and the low income, high crime nieghborhoods and take note as to who mostly resides there.


1. learn to quote properly.
2. I've highlighted what I believe is the key factor.
hmmmm, dunno what happened there, thanks for fixin it.

regardless as to why or the what the key factor is, what I said is the truth. Personally I don't care,the fact remains.

I can tell ya, if it were white people with those stats, I would be looking for black nieghborhoods to live in.
OK, but why keep mentioning ethnicity then?

Either you think it has something to do with ethnicity or you don't.
lowing
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


1. learn to quote properly.
2. I've highlighted what I believe is the key factor.
hmmmm, dunno what happened there, thanks for fixin it.

regardless as to why or the what the key factor is, what I said is the truth. Personally I don't care,the fact remains.

I can tell ya, if it were white people with those stats, I would be looking for black nieghborhoods to live in.
OK, but why keep mentioning ethnicity then?

Either you think it has something to do with ethnicity or you don't.
Because segragation is supposed to be a by-product of racisim. Forced integration and diversity is supposed to be the cure all for all racism in America. We both no that any white people that do not want to live in a racially diverse nieghborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their nieghborhood for the reasons previously listed in this thread, is automatically considerede racist.
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lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:


hmmmm, dunno what happened there, thanks for fixin it.

regardless as to why or the what the key factor is, what I said is the truth. Personally I don't care,the fact remains.

I can tell ya, if it were white people with those stats, I would be looking for black nieghborhoods to live in.
OK, but why keep mentioning ethnicity then?

Either you think it has something to do with ethnicity or you don't.
Because segragation is supposed to be a by-product of racisim. Forced integration and diversity is supposed to be the cure all for all racism in America. We both no that any white people that do not want to live in a racially diverse nieghborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their nieghborhood for the reasons previously listed in this thread, is automatically considerede racist.
Erm...

Perhaps that's because people that "do not want to live in a racially diverse nieghborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their nieghborhood" are racist.

Like I've said before - when you make it a race issue, it is racist, when it's a purely economic issue, it isn't.

You need to make your mind up - either you're talking about race - in which case you are a racist - or you're talking about economics - in which case, don't talk about it in racist terms.
lowing
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:


OK, but why keep mentioning ethnicity then?

Either you think it has something to do with ethnicity or you don't.
Because segragation is supposed to be a by-product of racisim. Forced integration and diversity is supposed to be the cure all for all racism in America. We both no that any white people that do not want to live in a racially diverse nieghborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their nieghborhood for the reasons previously listed in this thread, is automatically considerede racist.
Erm...

Perhaps that's because people that "do not want to live in a racially diverse nieghborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their nieghborhood" are racist.

Like I've said before - when you make it a race issue, it is racist, when it's a purely economic issue, it isn't.

You need to make your mind up - either you're talking about race - in which case you are a racist - or you're talking about economics - in which case, don't talk about it in racist terms.
Or, people that do not want racial diversity knows exactly what racial diversity will eventually bring to an area, generally speaking, and it is not wanted. You do know that upper class and middle class minorities move away from these areas, for the same reasons right? Or are they racist as well?
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lowing wrote:

Or, people that do not want racial diversity knows exactly what racial diversity will eventually bring to an area, generally speaking, and it is not wanted. You do know that upper class and middle class minorities move away from these areas, for the same reasons right? Or are they racist as well?
What do you want, a definition of racism? He already gave you one.

People that don't want racial diversity simple because they think it will lower the educational standards of their local school are racially prejudice imo, because it simply is not true that racial diversity leads directly to poorer performing schools.

As scorp said, it's more to do with economic factors.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
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lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Because segragation is supposed to be a by-product of racisim. Forced integration and diversity is supposed to be the cure all for all racism in America. We both no that any white people that do not want to live in a racially diverse nieghborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their nieghborhood for the reasons previously listed in this thread, is automatically considerede racist.
Erm...

Perhaps that's because people that "do not want to live in a racially diverse nieghborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their nieghborhood" are racist.

Like I've said before - when you make it a race issue, it is racist, when it's a purely economic issue, it isn't.

You need to make your mind up - either you're talking about race - in which case you are a racist - or you're talking about economics - in which case, don't talk about it in racist terms.
Or, people that do not want racial diversity knows exactly what racial diversity will eventually bring to an area, generally speaking, and it is not wanted. You do know that upper class and middle class minorities move away from these areas, for the same reasons right? Or are they racist as well?
:face: :palm:

Really, how hard is this to grasp, lowing?

If person A moves to/away from an area for purely economic reasons, then, no, that's not racist.
But, if person A moves to/away from an area based on the ethnic mix of that area, then, yes, that is racist.
lowing
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Scorpion0x17 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Erm...

Perhaps that's because people that "do not want to live in a racially diverse neighborhood, and do not want racial diversity moving into their neighborhood" are racist.

Like I've said before - when you make it a race issue, it is racist, when it's a purely economic issue, it isn't.

You need to make your mind up - either you're talking about race - in which case you are a racist - or you're talking about economics - in which case, don't talk about it in racist terms.
Or, people that do not want racial diversity knows exactly what racial diversity will eventually bring to an area, generally speaking, and it is not wanted. You do know that upper class and middle class minorities move away from these areas, for the same reasons right? Or are they racist as well?
:face: :palm:

Really, how hard is this to grasp, lowing?

If person A moves to/away from an area for purely economic reasons, then, no, that's not racist.
But, if person A moves to/away from an area based on the ethnic mix of that area, then, yes, that is racist.
I am not calling it racist. It makes perfect sense to me. What I am admitting to, however, is the automatic assumption, based on statistics, and real life, that when minorities start moving in it is time to sell, because the long term outcome will be a negative for your neighborhood and your school. The decision to move away IS based on "diversity" moving in, but for very good reason.

The OP does not suggest the segregation has anything to do with economics, it is a racial divide. This does not make it a racist issue though. The racial divide is a result of statistics that support the fact that with minorities moving in, generally speaking, so does trouble.


The action is race related, but the reasoning is sound, so how do ya categorize that one? You are trying to seporate the 2 and you can't regarding this issue.

Last edited by lowing (2009-01-20 03:49:47)

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